Strange guy this wang Qin.

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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:19 pm

This mail I got from this guy abd I asked him to tell me more...

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HANG SENG BANK LTD.
DES VOEUX RD. BRANCH,
CENTRAL HONG KONG,
HONG KONG.

Dear Sir,

Let me start by introducing myself. I am Mr. Wang Qin credit officer of
the Hang Seng Bank Ltd. I have a concealed business suggestion for
you.Before the U.S and Iraqi war our client General. Ibrahim Moussa who was
with the Iraqi forces and also business man made a numbered fixed
deposit for 18 calendar months, with a value of Twenty millions Five Hundred
Thousand United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several
notice was sent to him, even during the war early this year. Again
after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from
him. We later find out that the General and his family had been killed
during the war in bomb blast that hit their home.After further
investigation it was also discovered that Gen. Ibrahim Moussa did not declare
any next of kin in his official papers including the paper work of his
bank deposit. And he also confided in me the last time he was at my
office
that no one except me knew of his deposit in my bank.
So, Twenty millions Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars is still
lying in my bank and no one will ever come forward to claim it. What
bothers me most is that according to the to the laws of my country at the
expiration 4years the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong
Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds.Against this
backdrop, my suggestion to you is that I will like youas a foreigner to stand
as the next of kin to Gen. Ibrahim Moussa so that you will be able to
receive his funds.

WHAT IS TO BE DONE:

I want you to know that I have had everything planned out so that we
shall come out successful. I have contacted an attorney that will prepare
the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to Gen.
Ibrahim Moussa, all that is required from you at this stage is for you
to provide me with your Full Names and Address so that the attorney can
commence his job. After you have been made the next of kin, the
attorney will also fill in for claims on your behalf and secure the necessary
approval and letter of probate in your favor for the move of the funds
to an account that will be provided by you.
There is no risk involved at all in the matter as weare going adopt
alegalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary
documents. Please endeavor to observe utmost discretion in all matters
concerning this issue.Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated
bankaccount we shall share in the ratio of 70% for me, 25% for you and 5%
for anyexpenses incurred during the course of this operation. Should
you be interested please send me your private phone and fax numbers for
easy communication and I will provide you with more details of this
operation. Your earliest response to this letter will be appreciated.

Kind Regards,

Mr. Wang Qin

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:21 pm

I got this reply.

Dear xxxxxx,

Thank you very much for your response, and your interest in this transaction.Like I said earlier,due to this issue on my hands now,it became neccesary for me to seek your assistance, I appreciate the fact that you are ready to assist me in executing this project,and also to help me in investing my money in your country. You should not have anything to worry about. I will do everything legally required to ensure that the project goes smoothly,it shall pass through all Laws of International Banking.Having resolved to entrust this transaction into your hands, I want to remind you that, it needs your commitment and diligent follow up.If you work seriously, the entire transaction should be over in a couple of days.

READ THE FOLLOWING AND GET BACK TO ME:

Firstly,I will want to know the type of occupation that you do and how old you are. You should note that this project is highly capital intensive.This is why,I have to be very careful. I need your total devotion and trust to see this through. I know we have not met before,but I am very confident that we will be able to establish the necessary trust that we need to execute this project. I am now in contact with a foreign online bank. I nowintend that you open an account inyour name in thisforeign bank.The money would be transfered to youraccount which you will open in the bank for both of us,this is the best way,I have found,it will protect usfrom my bank.I want us to enjoy this money in peace when we conclude. So you should listen to my instructions and
follow them religiously.Also You have to know that I cannot transfer this money in my name as my bank will be aware that it isfrom me. This is where I need you.As result of this,you will have to open an account in the corresponding bank. I will obtain a certificate of deposit from this my bank,it will be issued in your name. This will make you the bonafide owner of the funds. After this,the money will be banked online for both of us. We can then instruct the bank to transfer our various shares into ourrespective home bank accounts. I will also perfect the documentations with the assistance of my attorney to give the transaction the legal right.Before I commence,I will need you to send me a copy of any form your identification (Driver's licence or
International passport) . I want to be sure that I am transacting with the correct person. As soon as I get these from you,I will commence the paper work.I hope you will understand why I need all these The money in question is big and I want to ensure that I know you well before I proceed to give you all the details to commence the project. I Shall send a copy of my working ID to you for your perusal and trust.I will send the name and contact details of the bank and their website to you so that you can commence communication with them.Our local telephones lines could be intercepted easily,so they are not safe for the project.This is why I have installed a more private communication.Ensure that you keep this project confidential, do not discuss it withanybody,because of the confidential nature of this transaction and my work.

Please reply soonest.

Regards,
Wang Qin.

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:22 pm

I replied at once...

Hello Qin Wang
Thanks for your reply! I have posted the copy of my
passport and drivers licence to you by express
registered post today. I sent it by registered post
because I have sent the details of my bank account and
I wanted only you to have it. Otherwise my Visa
details could fall into other people who might misuse
it. You should get it within 24 hours.
Please inform as soon as you recieve them.
Thanks again

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:24 pm

Now he panics and sent me 4 of these mails. Is there someone from Hong Kong here who can tell me if the address in the first mail does exist? This bastard does not trust certified copies of my valuable documents.

Dear xxxxxx,

I received your email, But you did not inform me you posting your information to me which you don't have to. all you need to do is to scan a copy of your international passport or working Id and send to me through email as email attachment. Please, i need you to act fast and stop the post and send the information through email which is very safe and private for you only. Please, send your full name, your current residentail address, your private telephonenunber and also a copy of your identity after scanner. Please do this as soon as posible so that the attorney can start processing the documentation backing up the claim making you the next of kin as the sole-beneficiary of the funds.

I await your urgent response.

Best regards,

Wang Qin.

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:28 pm

I promptly replied with this one. Seems like this Mr Wang Qin does not fancy effectivness.

Dear Wang Qin
Its too late to stop anything now as the post is
probably in the plane over Russia right now. I made
certified copies of the documents in colour and sent
them by registered express post to your address in
Hong Kong. Because of the large amount involved, you
must agree that its safer with hard copies of the
document. The courier should be there with the
documents in just a few hours from now. This should be
much faster than having them scanned tommorrow and
mail them to you. By the time I wake up in the morning
you should be looking at them.
Regards
xxxxxx

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:13 am

This is going fast and I dont actually know where this is going to end..

Dear xxxxx,

I received your email, First of all, i must let you know that, you have broken of of the roles of this transaction. I did not ask you to send your information through post office service, I asked you to simply scan and send to me through emai; attachment which is very safe and private because of the nature of the transaction.

Now, sending it to my bank does not make sense, on which you are now making staff raiseing eyes brow on me. I want you to stop the mail or if not you may cause me into trouble in future, this may even get a trace from you.

Now i want you to now make sure you send things to me through email and. Please, type out your information and send to me immediately. the information i listed to you so that i can give you further information and instruction on this transaction .

I await your urgent response.

Best regards,

Wang Qin.

P.S

Please, make sure the mail does not get to my bank like i said. I do not want any trace from you on this tranaaction because of the nature of the transaction.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:16 am

Being the good boy I am, I replied straight away.

Dear Mr Wang Qin.
You did ask me to show utmost discreetion in this
matter. Further you said that you telephone lines
could easily be intercepted, so I choose the safest
way to send you the documents. I just tracked the post
I sent to you and it was unloaded at Hong Kong
International Airport(Kowloon) today. This was sent
registered and only you can sign for it.
I dont see why a registered letter should raise
eyebrows in a bank, you being the credit officer.
Besides I got the impression that you wanted the
transaction done fast. As I mentioned earlier, I have
enclosed the details of my bank account. I could not
trust anyone by just sending that by email. I could
have risked that my Platinum Visa details being
misused by crooks, so i sent them as I did. I suppose
you know what a platinum card is.
As soon as the bank opens today you should have a
courier at the bank. How can you be so sure of your
internet connection when you warned me that the
telephone line could be intercepted? Only you are able
to sign for the post I sent and if you are not
available, it will be returned unopened to me.
Regards
xxxxxx.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:25 am

Aw! Pepsi,
The poor guy is just upset because he will have to go all the way to his office in Hong Kong from Quebec. Or, maybe he is just having a bad day because his selfishmeme.com site has been suspended and it is hard to send all those e-mails from the IP of a suspended site.
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting the feeling that the lads are starting to like maple leaves lately.

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:47 am

I might just tell him now that the police picked me up and drove me to the US Embassy and there interogated by the Canadian, American and the EU fraud authorities. Smile

I can ask him what he is up to.
First I will give him a few days to go to Hong Kong to secure my platinum card. Cool

Google this man and he seems to be very active.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:46 am

This guy is returning the documents....He has sent me a copy of a passport for trust as he said. Smile

Thank you for your response to my request.I appreciate your interest in
this transaction, but i am afriad about you posting direct to me, i
will return back the documents by not acepting them, you do not have
to post them to me, all you need to do is just type out your information
and scan a copy of your ID and send to me as email attachment. There is
no need for your personal account on this transaction, you are to open
up another account which i will direct you the step of getting a safer
account for the transfer of the funds.

Considering the money involved,it is necesary for me to be sure of the person
to whom I will be entrusting this transaction,my trust is not given out
lightly.i will include to this mail my international passport for you perusal
and trust. I still need you to scan and send a copy of your ID.

What I expect from you is trust and commitment,I want this large sum of
money transfered with your assistance.

Furthermore,with regards to the legality of this transaction,I must let
you know that this transaction is real and risk free, it shall be done in
accordance with banking Laws and regulations,My Attorney shall handle the
entire documemtations, he shall be responsible for drafting and notarization
of the Afidavits which shall put you in place as next of kin.
He would handle all matters of probate on your behalf, hence you would not
have to be here physically, and you will not be required to be in Court.

As a matter of fact I shall take care of the cost of running all the
logistics involved on my side of this transaction, such as the cost of
retaining the services of the Attorney and obtaining the necessary
official documents from the Hong Kong authorities and other
miscellaneous expenses which I will incur to ensure a hitch free
transfer, certain beaks have to be watered in a transaction like this.

Like I said in my email, 5% of the total sum mapped aside shall be
used to settle all expanses incurred from both parties during this
transaction as a form of reimbursement.
As a result of this you are advised to keep records of any expanses
you incur no matter the amount, I will keep records of my expences,we
will deduct it from the 5% during the overall calculation.

I shall take care of the expenses on my side but it is necessary for
me to let you know that you will be required to take care the cost of
opening the account and having the account activated. The reason I am
telling you this is because if we transfer the money from here to your
account when it is not active the transfer will bounce back hence the
money will return to its source which is my bank, I do not want these
complications

I am sending you the website of the bank so you can
browse it and make enquiries on offshore/on-line account opening.
I advice you like I said earlier that you open an account via online
With the bank so that once the funds are released, they will be moved
Straight into your account and the transfer will not attract the
Monetary bodies, as the transfer will be seen as in-house. (Same telex
type and banking coordinates with my Bank).You can then transfer the
funds in safe bits to your main account for both of us.

Please find below the banks website.

NORWICH UNION MERCHANTILE & TRUST BANK UK.

http://www.numpb.com

Please do this and get back to me immediately.

Sincerely,

Wang Qin.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:30 pm

My next relpy to this guy might be in Chinese. I just have to wait for a Chinese girl to log on tonite. Cool

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:39 pm

It might be fun to wait for a couple of days and see if numpb.com gets taken down by our superb bank-slayers. The thread is here and if it goes down, you will have a good reason to ridicule the lad. Twisted Evil

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:40 pm

I'd advise you not to reply to him in Chinese.

My main baiting persona is "Chinese" and nothing stops a bait dead like writing to a fake-Chinese scammer in Chinese (i tried it several times before, in situations like yours, and every time the bait died immediately).

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:42 am

I am calling the Chinese Embassy in Copenhagen on Monday to ask is they need a copy of this passport.
I think my next move will be something about being picked up and interogated by security officers in the American Embassy....because they traced my registered letter back to me.
Does someone know if he is Nigerian? Or has someone had him on the phone?

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:14 am

That's my wang Qin. I baited him a while back, that passport is on here several times. Should put fake on it. It is a reused baiter passport. Look at the passport number.

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:16 am

Yes, please put "FAKE" across the passport, Pepsi. This here is an instance of a lad taking a baiter passport and making it his own persona. That lad then sent it off to his buddies or it was stolen, and a scammer-meme is born! Smile

What's a scammer-meme?

Simply put, it's any idea that rapidly takes off amongst the scammers. Memes can be discovered/invented by different people at the same time, or they can be passed from one to another.

The Tsunami scam emails are one scammer-meme.
Wan Qin is another.
Tai Chi (Wan Qin's Cousin) is a third! <-- I have seen two different scammers using the "Tai Chi" passport, which is identical to the Wan Qin passport except for the name.

Never provide your scammer with any new memes! Even if the meme is old! Smile

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:26 am

I have removed the passport image and will post it again when I have defaced it in some way.

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:44 am

DONE!

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:51 pm

Pepsi wrote:

My next relpy to this guy might be in Chinese. I just have to wait for a Chinese girl to log on tonite. Cool

www.insultmonger.com for many insults in a variety of Chinese languages Laughing

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