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 Good place to post IRS scammer numbers to harass?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Anyone know a good site or group, if not this one, to post my IRS scammer numbers? Been getting quite a few of them after registering a website. Looking for people who harass them. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello and welcome to 419 Eater. We don't deal with IRS scammers here (they can't be baited, safely or otherwise, in our opinion).

This is the best place for you to provide that number. Have a look around at the work we do here and see if it might pique your interest.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Bear with me a bit -- I've only recently discovered this site and haven't read everything. (There's a lot to catch up on). However, I've seen in a few places on the site already this reticence to take on IRS scammers. I understand that 419eater specializes in written baiting and in a different type of scam, but in particular my question is why you say that IRS scammers can't be baited safely? Or otherwise?

IRS scammers prey on the weak, especially immigrants and the elderly. So, wasting their time seems to be perfectly in line with the ethic of this community. Furthermore, not only does wasting an individual scammer's time occupy them for that period, they are likely to trash the number once it becomes flooded with time wasting calls. So, it seems that IRS scammer baiting is a worthy endeavor -- why can it not be done safely?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome to Eater strawberryjam,

Safety - many of the IRS scammers have access to taxpayers details and they very likely have details of who they have called/messaged. So when you call them out of the blue from your safe phone number with your fake details, you'll probably fall at the first hurdle when they see that you don't exist in their lists. And if you're thinking of using your RL details then there have been numerous reports of IRS scammers SWATting victims.

2. Efficiency - if I wanted to waste half an hour of an IRS scammers time, I would also be wasting half an hour of my time stuck on the phone to the moron (not to mention international call charges as I (like many other members here) am not in the UK), and what have I really achieved. I kept one of thousands of scammers busy for a short period of time, hardly a dent in their "business". Alternatively, in that half an hour, I could have sent out 20 or 30 emails to different scammers (in the hope of getting reportable bank details from them), sent reports on 20 or 30 fake websites or posted the details of 20 or 30 scammers on a site like scamwarners.com - all of which have far more of an impact that keeping 1 scammer on the phone. And the non-IRS scammers also target the elderly, disabled and immigrants, so they'r just as worthy targets.

Finally, there is your idea of getting the scammer to trash the number. Firstly, it is unlikely to be flooded with time wasting calls as there won't be that many people making prank calls to it and even if it was and the scammer abandoned it, then that is as counter-productive as the people who report free email addresses. It won't take the scammer long to set up a new number and carry on scamming and any reports on anti-scam sites about the old number will be worthless.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

strawberryjam and irmadcow welcome to eater. Both beware419ers and B8er have given excellent answers to the question of IRS scammers. If you're interested in 419 fraud, please do sick around and check things out around here. If your interest is purely in IRS scammers, I'm afraid this isn't the right venue to explore it. beware419ers gave one link to a website with more information. As to the original question about other sites dealing with them, again it's not what we do, so I don't have recommendations.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

B8er covers the points, quite well. Once upon a time, an Admin told me:

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I always find it strange that people don't seem to understand that 419Eater deals exclusively with 419 fraud.


By this, they meant Advance Fee Fraud. If IRS scammers are your thing, by all means report them at the link I shared. But, when the number is shut down and the scammer creates a new one, as B8er points out, any reference for a potential victim to search has been negated. Any of these shut down numbers a phone company has flagged as "spam" are now worthless. That does nothing for victims or those who might be warned.

Ultimately, baiting here does involve wasting their time, but more importantly, their bank accounts are reported directly to the banks (and often shuttered), their mules (who are often caught up in another scam) are lost to them, costing them countless hours of work, and their websites, which they would have invested in, are taken down by site killers. Some lads have been sent across continent(s) and have never found their way home. These are impossibilities against IRS scammers. A phone call will waste their time, but baiters here wreck lads, quite well.

We understand this isn't for everyone and the immediate thrill of a phone call can be exhilarating, it just doesn't fall under AFF or "baiting," as we define it. Hopefully, you'll read a bit more and see what we do.

strawberryjam wrote:
IRS scammers prey on the weak, especially immigrants and the elderly.


I think that can be said about most criminals, though.

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