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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

An ongoing discussion on a hobby site that I'm a member of is about this company. Prices a fraction of retail, same with shipping. I decided to order. Well, what do you know, a Western Union payment requirement.

How should I proceed?

Zamby

Re: [NEW ORDER] Order Confirmation No: 4060

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Emily Ch0n [email protected])

 

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8:55 PM

 

 

To: [email protected]

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Show content|I trust [email protected]. Always show content.

 

Hello 

My dear friend,

Thanks for your order.

Wish you have a nice day.

You can learn to pay on western union website:

https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/home.html?method=load&countryCode=US&languageCode=en&pagename=HomePage&pid=pagenotfound

total amount is 460USD

Western union detail:

western union detail:

First name: JingY0o

Last name: D0ng

Full name: JxxgYa0 Deng

City: ShenZhen          

Country: china    

Address: No. 1095 xxxxxn Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, China

(Please be sure to Spell correct sequence name ,and pay by currency US Dollars)

Hope we can make many times business with you sincerely.

Looking forward to hear from you ASAP.

Thank you & Kindest regards!






2014-12-22 1:32 GMT+08:00 moxxxxxxidurc.com [email protected]>:
Order Confirmation from m0x0x0x0rc.com

Dix xx

Thanks for shopping with us today!
The following are the details of your order.
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Order Number: 4060
Date Ordered: Sunday 21 December, 2014
Detailed Invoice:
http://moti00000rc.com/index.php?main_page=account_history_info&order_id=4060

Products
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1 x ROTO 35FS = $415.00
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Sub-Total: $415.00
Flat Rate (Best Way): $45.00
Total: $460.00

Delivery Address
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Dxxxxx € xxxxd
Xxxxxxxxxxxx
Xxxxxxx,xxxviii. 60076
United States

Billing Address
------------------------------------------------------
Xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Xxxxxxxxxxxxx


Payment Method
------------------------------------------------------
Western Union Order

Make Payable To:

First Name : JingYa0 - Last Name : D0ng - Address : Sh0nn0n Road,Futian
district,Shenzhen,China - Zip Code : 250080 - City : SHENZHEN - Country :
China - Phone : 1xxxxx0829052

After the payment, plese tell us the MTCN ,your Firstname, Lastname, amount,
currency and country. Send email: [email protected], Hope we can make much
futher business with you.Thanks!




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This email address was given to us by you or by one of our customers. If you
feel that you have received this email in error, please send an email to

[email protected]


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Copyright (c) 2014 m0000xaidurc.com. Powered by Zen Cart

Office Use Only:
From:
Email:
Login Name:     dxx0x0xxx
Login Email:   [email protected]
Telephone:      xxxxxxxx65404
IP Address:     99.135.105.214 - xx.xxx.x..xxx
Host Address:   OFFICE_IP_TO_HOST_ADDRESS
Date and Time:  Sun Dec 21 2014 12:32:12 EST
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm winging this one. If they bite I will send them the form.

My reply:

Hi, I went to Western Union today and they are requiring that an anti scam form be filled out before I send money. Can you fill one out at the Western Union close to you? It is the Security Validation Compliance form (form A).

Thx, D0ke
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The Reverand
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi

Dont give in mate .

If anything call it a practice run Smile

Give e,m a poke if they dont reply , when other victims go cold they seem to bend to your way of thinking its all a game but one thing we always have on our side is there greed for money we dont need them they need US for our money .

Have you got a mentor yet ?

There advice is second to none and some of the tactics are so simple when you ask for advice you could kick yourself for not thinking of it your self (yea right ! ) .

Experience is everything and my mentor has been a massive help they are there for you as pro scam baiters .

Dont give up the more you do the better you get and the first piggy or a form filled in feels really good .....you are messing the Lads about so they leave a real victim alone .
Every email they read or reply they make costs them time , my next goal is getting them to talk to me on my mobile via a flexitell number at 60 p a minute i cant wait Very Happy

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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, Duckling is my mentor. Conversation is continuing:

Hi ,dear friend
we already sign it before.
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/home.html?method=load&countryCode=US&languageCode=en&pagename=HomePage&pid=pagenotfound
You can pay via WU online website.
Kindest regards!


My response:

I need a copy of it please.

Thx, D0ke
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Moving along:

Hi, if you need a blank form, Western Union has given me one. I can email it tonight if you wish.



And a reply:

hi
dear friend
please send it to my email.
best regards!


Time to slow it down. Send a reply in the morning. How to I attach files, photos, etc here?
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WeepingWolf24
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ Not too sure about files, but to upload photos you gotta use a image hosting site. I myself am using Imgur but there are tonnes out there like Photbucket, Imageshack and even Upload Eater.

What I normally do for files is, I just convert it to a picture format first and then use one of the image hosting sites to upload it up here. Maybe the others might have another way of doing so.

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Unless you know what you are doing, I would advise against downloading and opening any files that scammers send you. They could contain malware, or they could be disguised to look like a safe file, but actually be an .exe file.

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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I was wanting to upload the WU 'anti scammer' form that is available here to make sure it is the appropriate form.
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So I sent the 'version A' anti scam form and now I get a reply asking me to fill it out.

Version A here:

https://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103464


I see the wire transfer option has popped up. Which way do I go now? Their reply:

Hi ,dear friend
It show customer's signature , so this file need you to fill it.
Please fill all our info in the form and sign your name .
Then you can make the transfer.
Or you can try to pay by wire transfer , you can go to bank to make wire transfer.
Telegraphic bank transfer detail:
Bank name:Bank of China
Beneficiary Name: xxxxx
A/C NO: 6217000-000-0000-2418-xxx
Swift Code: BKCHCNBJ45000xxx

Bank Address : International Financial BuildingNo.2022,JiansheRoad,Shenzhen,China
Beneficiary Address: No. 0x0x0x0 Shennan Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, China
(Please be sure to spell the Beneficiary name and account number correctly.)

Kindest regards!
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

More from me:

0mily,

I called the Western Union in my town and they said you need to fill out the form with the photograph so it can be sent with the money. I am going to work shortly and can go to Western Union then and send the money. Please fill out the form and send it back promptly.

Thx, Doke



Then her:

Hi ,dear friend
it is night here.
I will do it tomorrow morning for you.
Thank you & Kindest regards!



Maybe she will actually fill out the form!


Zamby
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So I sent a WU form (Security validation compliance form A) that I found here on Eater and got someone there to fill out most of it and attach a photo. Should I tell them the funny questions still need to be filled out? No signature either, I will tell them after I visit a local WU office today that it has to have a signature.

Happy to post a photo here but having problems on up load eater getting scammer embossed on photos.


Zamby
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username1939
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Zamby, I do believe you put the embossing on the photo before you upload it

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Easter 2015

< --- my first
x5
Closed lad accounts < --- my first pink
Closed lad accounts x4
Go Gold

Never you insult me again. Never you write such to me. I am not begging you into this transfer, if you do not want to work with me call it a quit and never you write such to my mail box again.

Have a nice day. Mr. Richard Michel
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WeepingWolf24
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

hey zamby, what image hosting are you using ?? i'm using imgur and i can edit the pictures after uploading it there. then I just copy the link and paste it in the forum.

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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

WeepingWolf24 wrote:
hey zamby, what image hosting are you using ?? i'm using imgur and i can edit the pictures after uploading it there. then I just copy the link and paste it in the forum.


I was using UploadEater.
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think I have figured out a crude way to upload the form.

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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Continuing the discussion:

Quote:
Hi ,dear friend
good morning , please check the attached photo.
it is done.
Kindest regards!


My reply:

Thank you. I will print the form and take it to Western Union on my way to work this morning.


More:


Emily,

Hi, I brought the form to Western Union but they would not accept it as it is incomplete. Also it doesn't have a signature. Please resend the form completed. I really want the engine as soon as possible.

Thx, Duke


Quote:
Hi ,dear friend
I will do it tomorrow.
Do i have a signature "jingyao deng" in English or Chinese ?
Kindest regards!
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think it's time to order more hobby items from another email address. Add some spice to the fun.

Zamby
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Virtually every free email site requires a mobile number to register. Evil or Very Mad With no baiter phone I'm having trouble establishing additional email addresses.

Zamby
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WeepingWolf24
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ I don't think it is required actually. I just managed to get another gmail account created a few weeks back without the need of specifying a phone number. yes they do ask for it, but i am pretty sure you can skip that part. give it a try and see how it goes. feel free to PM me if you need some help.

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username1939
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Zamby, I'm just about to send you a PM

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Easter 2015

< --- my first
x5
Closed lad accounts < --- my first pink
Closed lad accounts x4
Go Gold

Never you insult me again. Never you write such to me. I am not begging you into this transfer, if you do not want to work with me call it a quit and never you write such to my mail box again.

Have a nice day. Mr. Richard Michel
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

username1939, thx. That helped, another fake email address was set up. I promptly made another large order to this same site. More fun.
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Form returned again, with signature but questions not answered. May have to send it back.

Image
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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Placed another order from a new generic email address. I said no WU close buy can I paypal or use cc? Apparently only a bank draft is available other than WU.

Here is their reply:

Quote:
Hi ,dear friend
You can go to bank to make wire transfer.
Telegraphic bank transfer detail:
Bank name:Bank of China
Beneficiary Name:
A/C NO: 6217-xxxx-0000-5219
Swift Code: xxxxxxCNBJ45A
Bank Address : International Financial BuildingNo.2022,JiansheRoad,Shenzhen,China
Beneficiary Address: No. xxxxx Shen Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, China
(Please be sure to spell the Beneficiary name and account number correctly.)





Time for me to continue reading here and figure out how to submit the bank accounts.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You can send account information to any moderator (their usernames are in green.

Congrats on getting some bacon!

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Zamby21
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

OrangeCat wrote:
You can send account information to any moderator (their usernames are in green.

Congrats on getting some bacon!



Thanks
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