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Drusilla
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

my lad wants to know where his parcel will be delivered to (As in post office or Pickup location). would it be Involving an innocent party if I gave him the address & phone number of a post officer in Lagos?

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Tsnerd
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes.

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Drusilla
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I can understand in some respects but how is it different to them going to Western Union or Moneygram when we tell them there is money there?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd say that as long as the pickup office is just doing his job, it doesn't break the ITP rule. This being said, better send them to a remote corner of their city in which there isn't any office at all and then slap them for not being able to find it.

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Tsnerd
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, WU or MG can be picked up anywhere.

Many of the names given for those wires are either victims or former victims.

An Innocent Third Party (ITP) is somebody that isn't involved in your bait, whatsoever.

You shouldn't be targeting a specific place.

Like calling in a pizza you don't mean to pay for - the pizza guy/gal is just making a pizza because you made your lad call it in. That is all that they are doing.

Just their job.

We tend to try to not screw with people just doing their jobs.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

When you send a payment by WU, you send it to the name he gives you - he has involved that person in the scam and you are just following his instructions - the collector will then go to a random WU outlet to collect the money and when the money isn't there, he'll blame you for not sending it.

If you tell him that a package is at XYZ post office and give the number, then you are directly involving the staff (who are ITPs) - and when they tell him that they know nothing about the parcel, he could well blame them as you have specifically sent him to that location.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Okay. I will send him on a goose chase.

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Drusilla
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I just noticed he gave me a post office he wanted it sent to.

So if I say it is going there that isn't innocent party because I am doing what he told me?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Dru, why not use one of our fake courier companies? I used one (since abandoned) to get my Hell Safari. Rev Moe Lester runs one now. I believe that GPS**ack is also still available.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ GPS is still available, but I think it is Premium only - I've had a couple of lads moaning because they couldn't find the non-existent collection office in a distant city.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ I had a vague recollection that was the case. I checked (briefly) in Premium, but failed to find it.

EDIT: I was wrong. It was the ESC*rgo UK number that I monitored, not GPS***ack.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Original Thread Located Here: http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=174095&start=100

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks, Al. I just found it also. I don't know if it is still operating and the backend being monitored.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^The only problem I can see would be getting a new baiter account set up for it - I used it a couple of months ago for the first time in about 2 years and had no problem logging in with my existing details, but I can't remember how you got set up.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ I (again, vaguely) recall that one had to PM its owner.

There was another courier, called ESC*rgo. It was run by Deuzer, via MOAG.

Rev Moe Lester's service is here: http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=234784
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