how to tell if your scammer is really a male or female

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Not quite a Newb Joined: 10 Aug 2014 Posts: 22

I'm just wondering if there are any tell tale signs that allow you to know the gender of the scammer that is common when baiting? Any things you experienced baiters have seen that helps determine who you really are dealing with

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:26 pm

Just assume it's a male and you'll get it right 99% of cases. When talking on the phone, you'll either find a guy using either morphing software or (qlthough it's a lot rarer) falsetto. Only in some cases (it has only happened once or twice to me) you'll find a female on the other side of the line, which is usually an accomplice or family.member, obviously unaware of the details of the scam. Russian scammers (vlads) do sometimes hire girls to record videos or pose for special photos, but once again, I don't think I've ever found a female doing active scamming.

Baiting Guru Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 5905

On the very rare occasion you get a genuine ladette you will know because you will hear men in the background giving them instructions. 419 is a chauvinistic world and I have never encountered a female working on their own or in a position of power. The few female scammers I have encountered though are very astute and usually a lot quicker at catching on to my s**t than male scammers. However, it remains an almost entirely male dominated profession, sometimes they will put 'the Mrs' on to prove to you they are a 'genuine family man' but, again, you will hear lad in the background feeding her lines.

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:47 pm

The one time I conversed with a vlad (this was long before I heard of baiting), I knew she was a he because of this line: "Я никогда не был женат". But I gave "her" the benefit of the doubt, because she was in Udmurtia, and the Udmurt language has no gender, until she said that the Udmurt language is dangerous and refused to teach me any. Then she made other errors.

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:04 pm

^ for the rest of us: It's probably a guy.

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:30 pm

If it's a vlad, virtually a certainty that it's a Fat Boris, not a Natasha. Women are hired for short phone calls or very rarely a cam appearance. There was only a single bait that both Ginger and I wondered if we had picked up a female vlad.

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:55 pm

I have enough trouble trying to figure out who around here is Male or Female let alone the Gender of a Lad. Actually it is easier with Lads in my opinion if you go with the assumption they are Male. Sure sometimes they will throw you a Curve Ball to make you second guess your opinion but I'm 99.9% certain you will be dealing with a Male.

In the Hundreds of Lads I've engaged, there is only one that I have suspected as being Female and well all the Votes are not yet cast so I'll have to get back to you on that....

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:49 pm

It doesn't matter!

419Eater is my life Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Posts: 274

I frequently use strong-willed female characters in my baits. They will often be an impediment to the weaker male characters, making it more difficult to send over the dollars. The lads seem to hate this. I don't know if this is due to some sexism or is solely because of lost dollars. I'll keep doing it.

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:07 pm

^^^^
My favorite character is an über-bitch, which is a cruder way of saying strong-willed. I love using her for the same reason. Most lads are deeply misogynistic. It just bugs the crap out of them to have to yield to a domineering woman but inevitably their greed wins out and they grovel.

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:22 pm

^^^^^

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:51 pm

One of my scammers displayed a slight bulge in her first photos and eventually was very pregnant in her later submissions. In one of her most recent emails she has said that her child is now three years old and that her husband has gotten tired of driving her to the internet cafe.

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