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Steve Svizzera
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm currently suffering a case of fraud from a company who, according to the website (www.q-international-consultants.com) is based in Shanghai. They claim to be a broker company specialised in investment banking and they were refering to their numerous references (Zurich, Generali, Coutts, etc.) they have on their website. In the meantime however, I contacted all these references and none of them could confirm that they know or work with Q International. So, they are using the good names of these companies to steal money from people around the world. They are having their victims transfer money to their account with the Bank of Santa Lucia. They tell their victims that they have inside information why certain shares will go up and like that, they try to get a hold of their money. It was when, after a while, they suddenly came back requesting me to invest more money, that I became suspicious and started my investigations.

Although they initially presented themselves as a very professional company, with the knowhow and the official looking documents you would expect, they lost all of their professionalism as soon as I started to oppose myself and requested my money back. In the meantime, I received several confirmations from official instances that Q International Consultants is a scam. They are not registered in any of the countries I contacted. None of their so called references can confirm what they are claiming on their website.
Q International always calls you anonymously and they never give you a direct phone where you could contact them. They claim their contact names are Martin Bordin, Michael Barlow and Simon Fairway. I'm quite sure these names aren't real.

They claim to have something in their hands to force us to pay them a big amount of money. Only then would we get back our initial payment of 11000 USD. They keep on sending emails with a lot of hot air, threatening us that they will contact their legal counsel. All they do is talk around things, they're claiming a lot of things but delivering no proof. In the meantime, they started to insult us and lately, there's a lot of frustration and aggression in their emails.

Lately, they offered to give me half of what they owe me when in return I would leave them alone for them to continue to "do their business".

We are going public with our case now, trying to reach as many people as possible in order to prevent them from harming others. We won't give up and we keep trying to get our money back.

More information can be found on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtAmL4jB4o

And it's also very interesting to have a look at the rating of their website on:
http://www.scamadviser.com/is-q-international-consultants.com-a-fake-site.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This sounds like a ponzi scheme running from a virtually unregulated location.

The best time to have done your research would have been before you handed over your money to them.

I can't see your publicity campaign achieving anything - they'll just phoenix and be back with a new ID.

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Jerry V
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 7:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Steve,

Any luck retrieving (some of) your money?

rgds, Jerry
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Steve Svizzera
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We got 75% of our money back, but it's been tough to even get that far. It's important to continue your investigations. After a while, we had a lot of proof that we were dealing with scam. We increased the pressure, didn't give up and kept on contacting them. We had to sign a document, an agreement where we state to remove all forum posts, youtube videos and we had to refrain from undertaking any action against this fraudulent company or its employees. We did sign the agreement with this fake company, an agreement based on fraud, scam and blackmail. I'm quite sure there must be more victims with even higher amount of money involved. Let's get in touch and exchange on experiences, actions undertaken, etc....

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am also a victim of this scam company. Crying or Very sad
I was stupid enough to start to start a deal with them without checking them complete on the internet. For the deal they send very professional documentation and contracts, which I had to fill and sign, the same as a real bank does when opening a trading account.

After I closed the first deal and send them the money for that (more than $7000 US) I received professional looking, documentation, contract for the deal, business card etc. in a nice looking cover.
I let myself trick in a second deal and now they totally have almost $30000 US. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
The deals looked very profitable, share price went up very fast.
In August, I found this posting of Steve on the internet. After (then of course much to late) careful checking on the internet, it became clear that the company and the people I trusted were probably a scam. Embarassed
I tried to contact them. (The only way you can contact them is email.) but then a few days no reaction. I send an email accusing them of what they are: A criminal scam company. Evil or Very Mad
Then reactions came. How I could be so unprofessional etc…. I asked for proof of legitimacy…….no reaction. I asked them to send my money back…….. first no reactions, later it was said to be impossible, it was in blocked deals. (Where the contract does not mention that and the time span for the deal they mentioned when selling was long time passed). After first dealing with the “bad cop” I was considered unreasonable, they put me through to the “good cop” , he would “solve” the situation. His first suggestion for solving was that I send them another $30000 US and then after about 5 days they could send me the return on my investment. And hey!! I would even make a nice profit.
Of course I did not send them anything. But yes also without transferring extra money, he could solve it within 3 to 5 days. I had to switch my shares from which I could easily check the value on the internet, by some mysterious stuff called PSST, the share value was increased to almost $42000 and the PSST value was $35/piece so I got 1185.

After two weeks, no action from Q International!! They never do what they say! I started actions I already prepared, like postings on the internet in forums and Youtube. I send the links also to Q International Consultants, making sure that they would know that it was me who gave them these nice reviews. Twisted Evil
I also wrote an abuse email to Privacy Protect, the company they used to hide their real identity and trails on the internet.

After a few days I got, a very angry scammer on the telephone calling me all kinds of things, and they would not do anything anymore, and before I could say something he disconnected the line.

Then The Privacy Protect company reacted, they investigated my claims and agreed with me and ended their service for Q International Consultants, their website went black! Very Happy

After some days he called me again. Now suggesting a deal; the value of the mysterious PSST dropped comfortly for Q International to less than $12 something/piece so the value I had dropped from $42000 to $15000. When I said that it was not enough, the pressure went up, by saying I was refusing a deal, keeping open what the consequences would be………. After some consideration I accepted the deal. I thought it was better to get 50% of my money than 100% of nothing.
I had to remove postings, signing a liability contract, freeing them of all future claims and accusations, and had to send a mail to Privacy Protect.
After 10 days I got $15000 on my bank account

So it helps to stand-up against these criminals and not just accept your loss. I think they invested a lot in their scam, and will rather buy you of than stop. They always earn, because will never return 100%, and sure not the profit you are entitled to.

Now they think they got rid of me, but I will show them otherwise. The blackmailed contracts do not have more value to me than toilet paper. I will start my actions against them again. ExclamationExclamation

Their website is up and running again, they hosted it via another company. Privacy Protect made clear to me that they could block their service, but they are not the owner of the domain. So I know now where to start.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Locked for a the following reasons.

Ponzi isn't something that we deal with here
The last post in this thread was back in May.
I doubt the validity of the posters - the posts follow the same type of pattern as I and other members of staff have seen.

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