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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:05 pm

This one just started but this is a very unusual vlad-he reads the victims mail and changes scam modalities when Ch3tham mentioned reading about the translation scam. Warnings are all over the net. Also, I have been having a hard time getting a nibble from the Ukraine with my two characters who have been busy with the Lugansk bank accounts.

Usual email:

Quote:

Hello Ch3s!!! How are you today? Thank you for your interest, It is
nice to meet you here) I hope you are well and in a good spirit. I’m
very glad to introduce myself. My name is Olga. I am from Ukraine and
live in Starobelsk city. I have never been married, no my own family,
no children, but I eager to have my family and it is before everything
in my life. I was born in 1984, 22 of April. I think it is an
appropriate time to start to think of a serious relationship which
will lead to marriage and to start a family in the future because I
cannot be always young and strong, just only in my soul? Smile

I've been
in a serious relationship but it was never with the right person. So I
decided to try my fortune here:)

I dream to find a special someone to share my life with, someone to
listen to, to share my jokes with, and share all the good and bad
things life throws at you. Someone who will not run off when it going
gets tough, and the tough gets going. They say that every woman needs
a man when her life is a mess, because just like in a game of chess;
the KING protects the QUEEN. So I am looking for my KING, for a man
who is honest, likes to laugh and joke around and be silly at times,
yet knows when to be serious, is direct and straight forward and can
talk about almost anything with me. I want us to be the best of
friends, who can't wait to be with each other. I have been told
several times that my true beloved is someone who is not in the same
country as me, so I search for my KING. Are you the one?

Have a great day and always smile Smile

gorgeous blonde, usual assets. Second email: please note the ground work for the translation scam-very little money, doesn't know any English, pays for internet and translation:

Quote:

Hello dear Charley) I hope you are fine. Honestly I'm very happy that
you want to keep conduct with me and we can find out many things in
common.

It does not matter for me how old my beloved man. Love is for all
ages, the main is to love and to be loved, understand each other.

The reason is that I am writing you I find you good man and also from
your letter you give me an impression of a very tender and caring man.
I think that whoever will be your soul mate she will be a very lucky
woman. No matter the difficulties, I would like to be that woman:)

I'm happy that you are interested in my personality. I'm rather active
and love to spend my time outdoors. I like nature and it is the main
source of energy and gaining positive emotions, and the main you feel
the desire to live, to love, to enjoy this life. When I feel lonely I
listen to music, I like smth positive, like disco, sometimes
meaningful lyrics. I enjoy reading and my favorite book is "The
Gadfly" written by Ethel Lilian Voynich. It contains a philosophy of
life, struggle for happiness when I read it for the first time I even
cried, it is an amazing talent to write books. But my friends ask me
all the time how can you enjoy reading if you only interested in
logics, numbers, your math... My respond is smile:) I enjoy everything
good and even cars and football:) So I gave you general description of
me.

In fact, I can't show you many things from my personality. You know
letters are not enough to show the real me. But it's a mean to keep
correspondence and show my views. Moreover I do not know English, and
have no other way out to communicate except letters and using a help
of an interpreter. But I think it will not bother you it's true that I
would like to meet you and learn about you in person. Please write me
smth about you, your interests and hobbies.

And if the financial issue wasn't clear...

Quote:

I forgot to mention in my previous letter that I studied math after
high school at college. I studied for 5 years and truly believed that
with this kind of qualification I’ll be always in work and in work…
Currently I do not work because no need in this specialists in my
city, and my family situation doesn’t allow me to work constantly. I
wish I could work as a teacher but it demands a lot of time to devote,
but I have some children who visit me and I give them some lessons.
When I’m with them it brings a lot of joy to me I love them very much
and I appreciate desire to learn smth new;)

After my graduation I must go to live in a village to take care of my
grandma. She was very ill and I’m the only grandchild who could care
of her, we lived on her little pension. It was very hard time in my
life: to get up early, to work on medicine procedures, to feed a cow
and to milk her, which my grandma loved very much. My parents stayed
in a city to reach the pension age, they are very hardworking people,
my mother was a nurse in the resuscitation department and my father
was a simple worker at the factory. They work days and nights for me
and my grandma to pay for medicine, for hospital… Unfortunately
nothing could help, I spent 3 years with her and I miss her very much…
She was a very kind and pleasant woman, she always insisted: “Olga go
to the city, work and have your family, you are a very young you need
do this and it is a must for you!!!” What can I do… What can I say –
“My dear I’m young and I have a plenty of time to devote to myself and
you know I love you very much”.

Oh… I’m very sorry that I poured out my sad story but it is from the
deep of my heart. So now I live in Lugansk city, I moved from the
village at once because it reminds me her and I promised that I’ll
change my life for sure. I live in a small flat with my parents and
with the grandma of my father now. They get older and older and have
some problems with health, I take care of them and I do not want to
lose them. This grandma is very kind to me and who if not me will take
care of her, my parents have a garden and all spring and summer spend
their time to grow vegetables, fruits to can, because it is very
expensive to buy.

Chas is sympathetic- I actually buried the hope that her translator wasn't scamming her in the email. I also mentioned stories about translation scams being all over the net. I've had vlads twig the last few times at this hint. Response to follow...

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:35 pm

From today, avoiding the translator issue

:

Quote:

Hi xxxx!!! I am really glad that I received your reply.

To keep myself happy during the day I had some sweets and I'm going to
bake a cake:) I hope you have a nice day today! Smile

Mine was terrible
but I can say that your letter makes me smile again Smile

So I went to this American center, they checked my level - it is 0 Wink

Or preliminary, smth like that. They advised me to take some lessons
of a private teacher and then to work in a group. But my god... I even
cannot suppose that it would be so expensive for me. I should pay 2400
grivnas for a private teacher and 1600 grivans for a group learning(
So with these news I come home and thinking and thinking, why in this
life we should pay even for knowledges. So I have no this opportunity
and think that maybe in the nearest future I can allow it if someone
will help me. I wish I could give them my math lessons and they will
give me English ones:) Joke)

Dear how are you? I want to know about your affairs, your inspirations
and expectations. You know that I like you very much. I'm happy to see
in you a true man. I want you to know that I do care even if I'm far
away from you. Dear I just want to accomplish all affairs with my
family, with my home in order to meet you.

I do dream of our future life together. I dream to have children, to
spend quality time together, to cherish our animals. By the way do you
like animals? I want to have a cat but no time to care of it and it is
a little place in my flat.

We should be a little bit patient I am doing all that in my forces.

> I was going to ask you-what do you think about having a family? Are
> you planning on having your own kids at some time?You said you want
> to travel, which is something I like very much. But are you planning
> to stay in the Ukraine?

Dear! Of course, I want to have a family and children. But only with
reliable man. With the man whom I will be able to trust. With the man,
which will be honest and frank with me. Without trust and
understanding it's impossible to build happy family. And I am sure
that exactly you are that man, which I look for. And when I will be
convinced in it, I will go with you wherever. It's not important the
place of your living, important the man which you live with. And what
do you think?

Good-bye for now,

Note the usual cut and paste script, then the quote from my email-this vlad reads and adapts to the issue of scams discussed online. And those are expensive classes! Ch3tham may comment that's more than community college classes and he's willing to take language classes.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:54 am

Ch3rley is sort of thick-he suggests Rosetta stone. This suggestion isn't taken kindly.

Quote:

I am doing good. It makes my day better every time I receive a letter
from you. It is the highlight of my week.

Dear! I'd like to buy CD, but I have not my own computer. Classes cost
200 dollars, and letters with the tutor cost 300 dollars. I want to
study English very much. The tutor to me were recommended as very good
expert. She has disks and books. Many people after classes with her
went to America with excellent knowledge of English. But
unfortunately, I can't allow it to myself:( Because my salary is so
small:( What can you advice me, darling?

I'm thinking and thinking about us, about our communication... How it
is wonderful to speak with a person who is far way and even more
meaningful for me than my friends. I know that this is achieved by
means of our letters translated, but I put all my efforts in this, I
pay for this and I'm very happy that I found you.

When you find someone that you enjoy spending time with, the world
seems a brighter place. You can’t stop smiling, and you long to be
with this person as much as possible. Before you know it, your lives
have merged. If you are ready for this phase of your relationship,
there are ways to help your significant other get to that point as
well.

My dear I'm ready because you are the one to my heart King:)

My strong hugs and tender kisses

Yours truly

I am a little more pissy than usual with this one-this vlad went straight for the cash without the usual preliminaries: no telling the best friend, no reveal of the relationship to the family, no romantic dreams. Not enough work!

From Ch3rley:

Quote:

How was your Monday? I hope you had a good start to your week. I got back to a deskful of work.Funny how it builds up over the weekend.

Can you tell me what exactly are you getting for the lessons? like how many classes and for how long? Does this school have packages for certain amounts? I really have to commend you about wanting to expand your knowledge. Learning another language will certainly help you professionally.

It would also make it easier for us to talk. I'd enjoy hearing from you and having you practice. I've never had a women over the internet ask me to pay for her lessons but if I want to know you better, it looks like I might have to. And I want to expand out friendship.

Tell me what are your plans for the week?

I am trying to get him to invest a little more before moving on to Piggy vs. MoneyGrab

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:36 pm

And again, after Ch3s appears to be cheap, change the angle to internet useage or language-and such pathos!

Quote:

Thanks for your letter. I was glad to read it. I'm very attached to
you and you make me happy with every word you write. How are you???

I understand that classes or tutor will help me to communicate with
you, but I haven't such money:( What can I do? What can you advice me?
I rely on your help...

It is very hard and tiresome to be always on the alert, to see a
lot of sufferings from my close people to feel that odor of a hospital
and medicine. I didn't sleep yesterday at all. It was very difficult
with my father, he has some problems with heart, I was about to call
an ambulance but he denied.

I do not know what to do, I'm sick and tired of this atmosphere of
constant worrying.

Sorry to tell to you all this but it is what I feel now. I want to say
that I was very pleased writing to you my letters but now I'm in a
very difficult situation, my money is over so I cannot pay for our
correspondence unfortunately. I need to pay for medical consultations
and to look for a job.

I'm disappointed because of realizing that I have no any opportunity
to work by my knowledges:(

I’m very heavy hearted for this situation and really happy for you - I
am happy to see that you are persisting and being so brave to be with
me all the time! I’m sure you understand how I feel.

I sincerely want everything will be right at this moment in my life. I
and my partners are in difficult situation with our respective job.

I should stint myself in everything, even in our communication. Even
if I limit myself in my daily needs I won't be able to pay for our
correspondence. I used to rely only on myself and I don't have any
way-out except just relying on your help in our further correspondence
and for understanding my situation. Thank you for taking time to read
my letter and I am looking forward to your reply and thank you for
your support and attention to me.

I'm sorry:(( It makes me so sad and upset that I'm in a desperation
and don't know how I will live without our communication and your
sweet letters:(( I miss you, darling.

Yours always and forever,

I'm thinking that the vlads are learning from the lads-no need to establish a relationship over months-just go for the money!

Baiting Guru Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Posts: 5380

I wish Vulya would do that.
Nice Vlad btw. Great find!
I can't wait to see what you do with this one.

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:23 pm

This one took a while to get to the point-I'll spare you all the "I am so poverty stricken" stuff. Since I brought up translator scams, she flitted around maybe coming to visit-but doesn't speak English. He also tried the "I'm too poor for the internet café costs", which I ignored. Finally, he settled on the following

Quote:

Hi my dearest ! How are you today?

I am doing good. It makes my day better every time I receive a letter
from you. It is the highlight of my week.

Dear! I'd like to buy CD, but I have not my own computer. Classes cost
200 dollars, and letters with the tutor cost 300 dollars. I want to
study English very much. The tutor to me were recommended as very good
expert. She has disks and books. Many people after classes with her
went to America with excellent knowledge of English. But
unfortunately, I can't allow it to myself:( Because my salary is so
small:( What can you advice me, darling?

I'm thinking and thinking about us, about our communication... How it
is wonderful to speak with a person who is far way and even more
meaningful for me than my friends. I know that this is achieved by
means of our letters translated, but I put all my efforts in this, I
pay for this and I'm very happy that I found you.

When you find someone that you enjoy spending time with, the world
seems a brighter place. You can’t stop smiling, and you long to be
with this person as much as possible. Before you know it, your lives
have merged. If you are ready for this phase of your relationship,
there are ways to help your significant other get to that point as
well.

My dear I'm ready because you are the one to my heart King:)

My strong hugs and tender kisses

Hmmm. Ok, we'll give this scam a shot.

From Ch3s

Quote:

Dear Olga,

How was your Monday? I hope you had a good start to your week. I got back to a deskful of work.Funny how it builds up over the weekend.

Can you tell me what exactly are you getting for the lessons? like how many classes and for how long? Does this school have packages for certain amounts? I really have to commend you about wanting to expand your knowledge. Learning another language will certainly help you professionally.

It would also make it easier for us to talk. I'd enjoy hearing from you and having you practice. I've never had a women over the internet ask me to pay for her lessons but if I want to know you better, it looks like I might have to. And I want to expand out friendship.

Tell me what are your plans for the week?

I wondered if he'd pick up the comment about asking for money. Nope-full steam ahead on scam. A little off-script plea:

Quote:

Dear, I wrote lDear, I wrote letter to you at the 6th of August. I miss you so
much.... Dear I do not want to lose you because of the money
problem((( I rely on your help so we can continue our communication. I
spent all I that I could afford, please do not leave me.

Yours always and forever,

Olga

Ch3arley isn't tremendously upset.

Quote:

I don't see any reason not to help you. It isn't a lot of money and I really am kind of impressed you are willing to learn English. I would like to keep talking to you as I think this may be more than friendship we are starting here

don't laugh but I'm starting the basic Russian class here at Topeka Community College. I know you peak Ukrainian, not Russian, but I was tol that it is easier to learn your language if I had the basics of Russian.

Could you have the Tutor or the school email me with the invoice and an account for EFT? I can just give the invoice and the bank information to my accountant, Candy, and she can take it from there.

Tell me how was your day and how do you spend it?

Anyone remember the perfect PA, Candy Kane?
As expected, vlad doesn't read, I get this:

Quote:

Dear, maybe I forgot to wrote you information about lessons. Sorry...
So courses cost 200 dollars in a month and tutor cost 300 dollars.
It's about 3 or 4 lesson for 2 or 2,5 hours for 6 month. Tutor was
recommended me as a good expert in English. Many people after the
lessons with her go to the America with very good knowledge. I want to
learn English so much! I want to talk with you fluently and without
any help... What do you think about it? Can I rely on your help, my
dear?

What ever happened to the paragraphs of Dostoyevski and suffering love? Oh well, he goes back reads my email again and sends me this:

Quote:

Actually I have not bank account. To open it I need to pay about 50
dollars and then wait about 10 days for its opening. So if you want
help me, you can use money gram or western union.

Shorter and shorter, off script. Ch3rley's a little annoyed.

Quote:

I think that's a lot of money for a bank account! Well, why don't we do this-ask the school. I don't believe for an instant they don't accept tuition payments.

In addition, I am worried about you. I've been reading about the money transferring offices in your city and there is a great deal of crime, especially for people collecting money. Moreover, it would certainly cost more than 50$ to send it. Bank transfers are free,

Please ask the school. Then tell me how your day is going?

Quote:

Where's the love? slap is forthcoming-why do you want to talk about money all the time?

Just wondering if he's enough on the hook for a third party to this transaction...