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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:24 pm

Ok, this WIMP safari is ON. My main character, the corrupt WU man, set up a chat with the bank contact (David) on Gmail. David and the lad got on like a WU outlet on fire:

Quote:

James: When will be a good time to come and see you?
me: I am working all week.
James: I will also be needing your phone number so I can communicate with you once crossing the border
Ok good
me: Howeet told me u would ring him, and then he would send me an email.
James: Isnt that a longer process
me: I cannot answer my phone in the bank bro
James: I could call him and as well call you once Im there
me: No it is a good process
If I get an email I feel vibraton in my pocket, u know?
James: ok
So tell me the process involved once Im there
How does this work
me: I get two ten minute breaks each morning
James: obviously this is my first time dealing with you
ok
?
me: I can take teh breaks when ever I want to
James: ok
....
me: So as soon as I get the email from Howett, i will go on my break and com outside and meet u
James: ok........;
me: Then Howett said to bring u into th bank and pay some MTCNs.
Right?
James: Yes
me: ok sounds good to me
James: So when I work in, What do I do
me: Dont come in, wait outside and call Howett.
James: I just hand you the paper with the MTCNS and wait outside or inside?
ok....
me: Very busy on a Monday, so it will be easier to find u outside, u know what i mean?
James: certainly
me: What will u be wearing?
so i can recognise u
James: I dnt know yet.. But I think we should make it on Tuesday... I have a very important meeting and already setup appointments for monday which I cannot miss
Tuesday would be fine
me: ok no problem bro, as i said I am there all week
James: Ok...
Very good..
Now pls tell me
me: what time tho?
James: Are the any downside in this deal? Any risks? What
me: like wat?
James: I am a family man with 3 kids and have to take every precaution...
me: i have family too
3 kids already bro
James: ok
Very well
me: We meet, i make the payments to u , and u leave. nothing more, yes?
James: Ok..
Sounds good
Now tell e
Ok
me: ok good
James: the bank is in Apapa
Name of bank pls
me: yes in apapa
James: name of bank
me: guaranty trust
James: ok
me: if u cant find, ask around
James: ok, will do
me: but its easy to find
James: tell e
how long have you been dealiong this level?
and with Howett
me: why u got some jobs going?!
James: a couple
might be needing a solid contact
me: what kind of work?
James: I mean, how long have you been cashing out for Howett
?
me: this is the first time cashing, but ive known him for years
he hates western union bro, even tough he works for them. he wants to hurt them
James: OK....
no problem
me: dont fully understand his reasons, but I trust him
James: how do you get your cut... what arrangements do you have with him?
me: hes a good guy at his heart, u know?
James: yh i know
me: i got an arrangement with him for my time
and the risk involved
James: ok
thats good
I wanted to make sure that everything here is legit
me: sure bro
James: and not a setup.. u know
I dnt feel like walking into a rat trap...
me: sure always good to be cautious
i woud be the same
But this is legit all the way. good money to be made here with these dormant MTCNs
James: ok... good
me: howett told me all about it, i had no idea
James: Im down for this
me: ok
so you'l let me know what time youll be here then?
so i can time my breaks?
James: Try to be on googletalk then
so i can send you a message once i take my leave
because once I cross the border
I ll loose all communication
me: ok will do my best, difficult at work though u know?
James: I understand
me: as long as you ring howett thats the important thing bro
he controls this deal
James: but once I cross that border, I must focus on my target, hence communication btwn us is important
me: i understand
James: OK
NO problem
thats good
I dnt need to carry any ID with me do I?
Because I do not want to
me: No you don't need id
James: Ok
Good
me: so tell me about this work you have
James: It will depend on what type of service you can render
me: what service are u looking for
James: I need offshore accounts to receive money
me: ok
may be able to help
we can talk more on tuesday face to face?
James: BUt will reflect instantly
me: u mean instant transactions
James: I need an account in the USA or Europe to receive funds but will reflect within same day into an account in nigeria
me: u mean transfering back into naija account?
James: do you have contacts in USA for western union or moneygram?
me: no but may be able to put u in touch with someone who does
leave it with me bro
James: ok.. very good then
Listen, I have to go now. lets chat some more tomorrow
me: ok tomorrow night
James: what time will you be on tomorrow night?
me: when is best?
James: anytime bro, Im always connected on my phone or at home
me: ok
take care
James: ok, nice talking to you bro
me: u too
James: goodnight
me: god bless

Meanwhile Howett also had a brief chat with laddie:

Quote:

me: How are the arrangements going please?
James: Splendid
me: Great.
James: we are getting along real well
me: Very good.
James: now tell me
How do you get your share?
me: You must send it to me, but not by Western Union. MoneyGram would be ideal.
James: ok
Nigeria does not send out
me: I am happy to wait until you return home.
James: I will have to send it to you from Benin
me: That's fine. I trust you to send it.
James: NO problem bro.. Where do I send it to
Pls send details to my email now pls
me: I'll provide all of the details once you have collected the payments.
James: ok
me: It isn't a priority right now. The priority is successfully retrieving the payments.
James: Are there be any possible hinderance to be expected?
How ofter are we going to d this each week?
me: Well, we have a financial audit coming up in the office at some point, but that's not expected until a couple of weeks' time.
James: When will you get access to the Mtcns for Benin
me: They are controlled by another department. I have been thinking about how to get hold of them, and I have some ideas. I will have to wait and see how things play out here. There are some office politics in play, and things could change for better or for worse.
Hopefully for the better.
James: ok
me: So have you decided with David when you are meeting?
James: Yes
me: Tomorrow?
James: I have already setup appointment for Monday, so Tuesday will be ideal
me: Ok, as long as David is working then it should be fine.
James: Yes, he said he is working all week
me: Ok good.
James it's late and I'm in the office early tomorrow. I will take my leave and say goodnight.
James: Ok, no problem then
Go ahead and have a good night rest
me: Thanks, and you too.
Email me if there are any problems between now and Tuesday.
Good night.

Fingers crossed for Tuesday...

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:51 pm

I am waiting with "baited" breath...

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:55 am

The lad is (supposedly) on the bus:

Quote:

Hello David.. I am on my way to see you.. pls be ready

Watch this space.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 21 Nov 2012 Posts: 619

fingers crossed Smile

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:59 am

Oh, this should be good. I will check this with high hopes later.

419Eater is my life Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 357

I hope the lad doesn't let us down! Twisted Evil

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:20 pm

Success! Lad traveled, and may be going further. More to follow Very Happy

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:09 pm

HOORAY!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:19 pm

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:46 pm

Ok, so the evening before the big day, the three of us made final preparations. Laddie was sounding pleased:

Quote:

Howett,

Sorry I did not get your message on time. I was busy most of the day.
I am online now.

Come online so we can wrap things up for tomorrow. As far as Im
concerned, It is a GO on my end.

Let me know if there are any changes.

James

At 10:30 this morning, the lad informs David (the bank contact) that he is on the move:

Quote:

Hello David.. I am on my way to see you.. pls be ready

He also put in a quick call to Howett. He was on the bus, and about 15 minutes away from Seme border. A few hours went by and I didn't hear anything. Then finally at 2:45 he called me:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4118670/WIMP%20call.mov

Listen carefully and you'll hear him asking around for an internet cafe. You'll also notice his accent has more than a twinge of American in it. He's obviously spent some time away in the past.

I finally got him to an internet cafe, and (with the help of The Monsignor), managed to confirm his IP using ReadNotify. It resolved squarely to Lagos Very Happy

From here, the frantic emails started. Firstly between laddie and Howett:

Quote:

Lad - Where is David? I am right across the street from his bank... Finally located the place with success... I hope this works out well.......

Me - James, things have taken a turn for the worse here. The financial auditors have turned up, and have put everything on lockdown for a short while, which means I cannot activate the MTCNs. Please, stay where you are for now and hang tight.

Lad - How long will this take, I cant remain here as it is a cyber cafe and i dnt have enough minutes... pls advice as to next step

Me - I am booking you a hotel - you may need to stay overnight and collect the MTCNs in the morning.

Lad - Hotel? Hmmm..... Forget the hotel and send me the money instead.. I will find a safer place to stay.. I need the cash to move around.. I came here with only my transport money.

Me - I am unlikely to be able to activate the MTCNs before the end of the day, so you will need to find somewhere to stay tonight. First thing tomorrow morning, I can activate them and you can collect.

Lad - Funny thing is that I do not have money on me.. This wasnt part of the plan and therefore did not make provisions for it... Spent what I have coming and paying to cross that border... WHat do we do?

Me - James, that is why I offered to book a hotel for you. I am quite prepared to do that now.

Lad - It just seems strange... I hope this isnt a setup Howett>>> What about feeding? Seriously did not plan to stay overnight.. I left my car parked in a wrong place in Benin and hope it doesnt get stolen before I get back....

Me - OK James listen carefully

I have booked you a room here - http://www.safarihotelsgroup.com/index.html The address of the hotel is:

88a Nnamdi Azikiwe Express Way
Wuye
ABUJA
NIGERIA

It's very nice, I have stayed myself a few times. Make your way over and you will be well looked after - I know the owners. Get in touch when you've freshened up and got unpacked, and we will discuss our next steps.

Lad - The address is Abuja, but i am in Lagos

Me - Yes I know that. This is the hotel chain sponsored by our company. I have booked the penthouse suite for you, and all is paid for. They may have a shuttle bus that can pick you up. Give me a few minutes just to check this.

Lad - I am sure they have a branch in Lagos ofcourse.... Where are they located in Lagos?

Me - No, there isn't one in Lagos unfortunately. Listen, I have just heard back about the shuttle bus. There is a small town on the A1 called Ilorin. If you can get there, the hotel will send their shuttle to collect you. They normally wouldn't do this, but they are doing it as a favour to me. They are ready to leave in the next five minutes.

Lad - Howett, that is another state... Abuja is about 14hrs away from Lagos... you gotta be kidding me

Me - I understand that, but what option do we have here? The MTCNs are on lockdown - I cannot override the security and activate them otherwise I invite suspicion, and our whole business is dead.

Lad - Ok no problem.. Ill find a place to stay... for the night... Will this be concluded tomoro? It all feels strange as I am totally out of my comfort zone

Me - Ok, good. Yes, normally the auditors only take a few hours so by tomorrow everything should be cleared up and we can proceed.

Lad - Ok... I hope there will be no more hinderances tomorrow?

Me - James, I will do my utmost. You know I have been very accommodating so far.

Lad - Certainly, you have.... but you must understand that I had to leave one country to another.... It feels strange... what can you do to comfort me? Im running out of time.. Let me find somewhere to sleep.. Will reconnect later and we could finalise..

Me - James, I am leaving work in the next few minutes. Email me later and we will discuss tomorrow.

At the same time as the above was going on, the lad was also emailing David, the bank contact:

Quote:

Lad - I am in the bank.. Where are you? Hello David, What is going on? I am in the bank now>>> Respond to me with where you want me to meet you

David - Howett tells me there is a problem with the mtcns? i will wait for u bro.

Lad - I have been here since 3 30... I m also waiting for him.. I was already in the bank... What is going on David? I dnt understand any more

David - bro don't worry. a problem Howetts end i think. I am sure he'll sort it out.

Lad - Im cashed trap, did not plan to stay overnight.. might need a hand

David - i understand bro. I have to get back to work my manager is coming over now. let Howett sort you out and we will meet soon I am sure.

Lad - Ok bro.. just a bit unsettled... feels strange this whole thing...

And I haven't heard from him since. I do hope he found a place to sleep. Outside, that is. I hear the Lagos sky is beautiful at night.

Aaanyway...

Assuming he HAS slept over, I need some ideas on where to take this tomorrow please? Shall I do a chop somehow with Gomer? Or try and string out the financial audit. Or perhaps just go completely quiet to anger him as much as possible?

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Excellent!! The greedy fool made it clapping

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:25 pm

First, string out the audit a bit. Give him a reasonable time frame when it will end - Thursday! That should be short enough to keep him in position,but long enough to inconvenience him.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:53 pm

Great baiting Chickenlegs! Very Happy

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 21 Nov 2012 Posts: 619

Quote:

Lad - The address is Abuja, but i am in Lagos

great stuff! beers!

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:04 am

Quote:

Lad - Im cashed trap

I don't think he appreciates the deeper meaning.

I think it may be time for David the bank contact to have to front his boss with a 'please explain' regarding some of his dodgy activities as a result of the audit (I don't think laddie knows what one is). Should all be sorted by tomorrow... or maybe the next day.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:06 am

Nicely done. I hope he does stick around in Lagos or make the trip to Abuja.

I also hope his car gets stolen while he's gone. Twisted Evil

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 30 Mar 2012 Posts: 949

Nice work!

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:00 pm

So this morning James and Howett caught up:

Quote:

me: Hello, James?
Can you see this ok?
James: See what
me: My messages
Good
James: Sure
me: I am glad you are ok. Where did you stay last night, and where are you now?
James: I'm am fine but not ok. I'm in lagos and waiting for your greenlight to move.
me: You are fine but not ok? That makes no sense James. What is the problem?
James: Nothing really.. I left my car unsupervised and have a couple of fixed rendez vous for the day.. I hope all this will be worth it.
me: OK, here is the situation here at WU:
The financial auditors turned up yesterday completely unannounced.
We were expecting them sometime in the next few months, but never thought it would be this week.
When they come, all MTCN back-end reporting systems are automatically put on hold, whilst they investigate any irregularities. That means I cannot activate the MTCNs until they have left (assuming they don't discover our plan of course).
Management (including me) are having a meeting with them this morning. In this meeting we will establish the scope and timeframe of the audit. I will do my absolute best to encourage them to conclude it as quickly as possible. The meeting takes place at 10:00am. As soon as it has finished, I will get in touch with our next steps.
Please indicate that you have read and understood the above.
James: Ok.. I understand
But pls.. I do not want to be here longer than I have to
me: James, even if it means waiting for another few hours, I trust you agree with me that it will be worth it.
Let the money be your motivation.
James: It. is my motivation but the fact is I did not plan to stay overnight and only came with a one way transport fare. You will have to pull some rabbits out of those hats over there at Wu and make it happen
me: All I ask is that you trust me. I have been working here for many years. I understand the internal politics of these things, and know how to persuade people to do things I want them to do. I will deal with it, don't worry. Just hold tight.
James: Ok
me: Now, I will go an prepare for our meeting with the auditors. Will you be in the internet cafe when I return, or are you on your phone?
James: I will be on my phone.. How long will this take?
me: I will try and ensure the meeting as as brief as possible, but don't be surprised if it goes on for a while. These auditing people can talk and talk, you know how it is. I expect an hour at minimum.
James: Certainly.. How know how it is..
me: Ok, I will be in touch. Hang tight.
James: Hanging tight..

I left it a few hours, then went back to him:

Quote:

me: Hello, James?
James: I am here
me: The initial meeting with the auditors has concluded.
James: That took exactly 3 hrs
Ok good
me: Yes, sorry - I did warn that these meetings can extend for quite a long time.
James: Sure no problem
me: We have now agreed the scope and timeframe of the audit with them, and there was a lot of negotiating.
I have good news and bad news.
James: Go ahead
me: The bad news is that the audit will not be finished until tomorrow morning at 9:30am.
However, the good news is very good.
They will not be auditing the orphan MTCN numbers and reports, so first thing tomorrow morning I can activate them for you.
And there is no chance that they can find out about our business.
So this gets concluded tomorrow first thing in the morning.
James: Well.. I won't be able to stay here another night.. Dnt have the resources for it
me: What?
Are you kidding me? We are so close!
James: And beside I am very worried about my car.. I m very worried
me: Why, where is your car?
I thought you got the bus to Lagos?
James: I dnt have any money on me as I only came with enough to get me to the bank
me: James, with respect, there are bigger things at hand here than your car. We are sitting on a potential gold mine here.
James: I understand
me: Anyway, I thought you had contacts all over? Surely somebody can either send you money or give you accommodation for the night? This really is important.
We are so close to pulling this off, let's not screw things up here.
James: There is not going to be any screw up.. All will be well.. The area where the car is parked is not a good area
me: James, when we pull this off, we will be bringing in enough money to buy 10 cars each. You need to see the bigger picture here.
What car is it anyway?
James: *cura zdx
Acura Zdx
me: Ok, that's not bad.
But you can do better with the money we'll be making, trust me.
James: Can't afford to have its parts stolen
me: Can't you send somebody to watch it?
Where are all these contacts of yours?
James: Sure I can
me: Ok the. We have our solution.
James: Ok.. Howett.. Are you for certain we would conclude this by tomorrow?
me: Absolutely. Without a doubt.
So are we on?
James: Ok good
me: Good, it is the right decision James.
James: Yes.. I will wait another night
I sincerely hope all this will be worth it
Regarding the second batch of mtcns you sent.. I can't seem to download it
me: 'Hope' does not come into this for me James. This deal is certain as far as I am concerned. Tomorrow the auditors will be done and gone.
OK let me look into that for you.
James: The file seems corrupted
me: Hmm, perhaps because you were in a new location maybe?
James: Maybe
me: I'll try and find time to send it over again later. In the meantime, I need to show my face around the office here, and start cosying up to the auditors.
James: Pls send file as pdf or in microsoft word
me: I hate this part of my job.
Ok will try my best.
What will you do for the rest of the day?
James: I dnt know honestly
me: Ok, well stay safe and wait to hear from me.
James: I just feel very useless here for now
me: You won't be feeling useless tomorrow though, let that be your motivation!
James: Ok.. Will do.. Let me start making arrangements to secure my car and the family
me: I have something you could do to pass the time actually.
James: What?
me: Can you email David and just let him know what is happening please? He has been a little out of the loop, and we need to tell him what our plans are for tomorrow.
James: Ok.. I could do that
me: Thank you. Much appreciated. Must go now.

So, he's staying another night in the city of dreams that is Lagos. By the way, if he's telling the truth about his car (and I think he is), it's one of these:

Please, oh please let it be trashed when he returns.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:07 am

Ok, so with James staying another night in Lagos, he had time to kill. Last night we had a good old chin-wag, and got to know each other a lot better. The conversation went all sorts of unusual places, with laddie nearly catching on a couple of times. He eventually really opened up, and started answering scamming questions I was putting to him from baiters on the Skype Mugu Group.

I've never had a conversation like this with a lad before. It was really very strange, and I tried to make the most of it. I also made a massive mistake and screwed up by burning his email, but put that down to my relative inexperience. I've yet to get my first anniversary baiting, so still lots to learn.

A long read, but worth it (for Bruin especially Wink

):

Quote:

James:Everything is set for tomorrow?
Me: Yes I am home now. Everything is looking good for tomorrow, yes?
Everything is ok my end.
The auditors have done their work, we just need to have a quick wrap-up session tomorrow morning, and then we should be good to proceed.
One question - have you heard from David?
James: - sent him an email but I haven't checked for his response
Me: I have also emailed him, but haven't heard back yet.
I'm sure he's ok, but it would make me feel much better if I heard back from him before tomorrow.
James: Sure
Me: I'll drop him another email shortly.
James: But what I don't understand is why I can't cash out anywhere else..
Me: Because we need David to cash them all out at once, and circumnavigate the security system remember?
Otherwise you'll be visiting multiple WU outlets all day.
Not much fun.
James: Yes.. I remember
Me: Today was a bit of a ball-ache to be honest.
With the auditors and such.
James: Tell me about it
Me: Auditors are well-known for being a little difficult, but there was this one fellow on their team - I think his name was Bruin or something like that - he was an absolute jerk.
We was asking questions that nobody else would ever have thought to ask, you know like really random stuff.
He really inconvenienced us, and we have never encountered such difficulties.
What an asshole.
James: There is always one of those in the bunch
Me: Yes. Do you know people like that?
James: Ofcourse I do
Well.. I have a friend who works as an auditor for the BCEAO in Benin
Me: Yes, I know the place.
James: She tells me she is always hated for her job because she audits and reports back directly to her father who happens to be the president
Me: Ah, the old business family ties. Things can get awkward in those situations.
Best to keep away from family in business, that's what I say.
James: Sure... I know
Me: So, you have a business/employees of your own?
James: Yes
Well God has been very good to me.. I own a pret a porter, I'm into importation and distribution of baby diapers
Me: It's funny. I've spent my entire career at WU working against scammers, and now I'm working with one. Ironic isn't it?
James: Well.. Its quite ironic and that is why I m a bit skeptical and praying this isn't all a setup
Me: Well, in life things change. Enemies become friends, friends become enemies. Life throws up little surprises from time to time.
Anyway, a question - what % of your income comes from the internet scamming? I'm genuinely interested to know, as it's something that we've never really been able to get a handle on here at WU.
We can make educated guesses of course..
James: Funny enough.. I'm not a scammer
Me: Come on James. We both know that's not true, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
James: However I work a lot with scammers
And get a percentage of everything they get
Me: I see.
James: Using my contacts
Me: I understand. So you're an Oga?
James: I'm a legitimate business man but don't live by bread alone.. I like my bread buttered a bit
Me: Nicely put.
So you have your own guymen?
James: You seem to know a lot about scam and its terms..
Me: I've been in this business long enough, I know all the terms you people use.
James: Guymen huh? I'm mostly an offshore contact
I help ppl collect money any where in the world
Me: I see.
James: I dnt actually participate in the scam process
Me: Ok, so when you have to buy in the services of a scammer group or individual in another country, does that person get paid up front, are they offered a percetage of whaever is made or both?
James: I hate that aspect.. I dnt know how to lie and in that scenario you have to lie a lot
A percentage is agreed on
And no one gets paid until money is paid
Me: This fascinating for me. I hope you don't mind the questions.
James: No I dnt actually.. Feel free to ask anything
Me: Great, another one then: I'm also interested in a scammers' relationship with the Oga. Is he seen as a boss like figure or is he just more of a freelance guy who they ask for help when they get stuck trying to get the mugu to drop?
James: I just hope you dnt use whatever info against me should this be a setup
Me: I'm just as implicated in this as you are James - trust me, this information isn't going anywhere.
James: I have had a similar person contact me in the past.. He promised to make transfers to ppls accounts but on the other end his main objective was to waste my time and make me think money is coming when it was all a hoax
Me: Sorry to hear that. I'm not one of those guys. I have no time for anything that doesn't make me money.
James: Kinda triggered my memories when you mentioned the word
OGA
Me: It's a common term amongst scammers we believe.
James: His name was smart.oga
But was a scam baiter
Me: Never heard of that before? What is that?
James: 419 bittenus
Well he worked for them and baited scammers
Me: What do you mean by 'baited'?
James: They set you on a deal and make you feel like there is money coming and make you wait and wait
Just to waste your time Shocked

Me: You'd have thought people have better things to do...
James: sio tell me
Why are you doing this?
Me: I have worked at WU for years now.
I singlehandedly built the Transaction Security Department from the ground up.
James: Do you have any Id that proves your employment at WU
Me: A few months ago management brought in a new guy. His name is Malcolm.
He took an instant disliking to me, and started reversing the policies that I had put in place years ago. Policies that were EFFECTIVE, and were working well. He did out of nothing more than spite.
I began to complain right to the top, but the execs wouldn't listen to me. So I decided - fine, f*** you.
And since then I've been trying to work out a way of hurting the company. There's not much I can do in a big way short of massive financial fraud of course, but every little helps.
THAT is why I'm doing this.
Perhaps I should have explained this from the start.
James: Yes you should have
Me: My apologies.
James: But what I need you to be honest with me about is how you got my email address as I did not buy your last response
Me: I told you, I receive a regular report of scamming activity. Your email address was on it.
James: That's not true howett
Me: Take a look at this link James: http://www.419scam.org/emails/2012-10/18/00333461.1.htm (Really shouldn't have pointed him here. My back was to the wall and I felt this was the best way to turn the tables on him. Not a wise move in hindsight.)
Your email address is listed. You have been blacklisted as a scammer. So who is being untruthful here?
Your email was on one of my reports, and I chose it at random to email.
James: Wait let me check the link you posted
Me: Of course.
That is pretty conclusive, wouldn't you agree?
James: Ok yes
Me: So let's get all our cards out on the table here. I am a corrupt WU agent, and you are a scammer. Let's not beat around the bush here.
James: Pls paste me some I'd.. Can you?
My cards are on the table but not yours
Me: My ID is at work.
It was a stressful day, and I forgot it.
James: Ok.. Ill settle for that response today but will expect it tomoro
Me: Very well, if it will make you happy, although it is a complete waste of time.
Tomorrow I will be concentrating on activating these MTCNs. If you are being a child and worrying about ID then so be it - the loss will be yours.
James: Pls let's not go overboard.. I am not being a child. Just trying to fill in the gaps here
We are talking about trust here
Me: Yes, you are James. You have come all the way to Lagos, and NOW you're asking me for ID. You either trust me or you don't. If you don't, then you are a fool for working with me.
Now you can either be a man about this, or go and sit with the women. Which is it?
James: I do trust you Howett. But damn you got some balls man.. I like that
Me: I am a man who speaks my mind James, even if it offends. I speak what I think people need to hear.
And right now I am afraid you are bitching about things that do not need to concern us.
James: You are just like me
Me: In what way?
James: Speaking your mind
Me: It is a good trait to have, but I'll admit it has sometimes got me into trouble.
James: Sure
Me: Ok, what else do you have planned for the evening, or are you happy to continue our conversation?
James: Sure let's continue
Me: I still have many questions, things I've always wondered about in my day to day work, but never had answers to.
James: Sure go ahead
Me: For example, here at WU we know very well that our agents take bribes especially in Western Africa, but tell me - how much would a typical bribe be?
James: Some ppl take percentage others take a cut.. The percentage varies from 10 to 30 percent
Me: 10 to 30 % of the total payment being collected?
That is high.
James: Yes but that is if the interested party is collecting the money without any ID
Me: Ok, so with ID it is much lower then?
James: Yh.. 0 to 10 percent depending on arrangment you have
Me: Fascinating stuff.
We've always struggled to put a stop to bribes. Very difficult.
James: Tht will never happen
Me: So when a payment is collected, is it collected by one person, or with a group of people?
James: One person.. Never in group
But the person can collect the money without showing up..
Me: I see - how?
James: All depends on your level of contact
Me: Ok
How would I collect a payment without turning up? That doesn't make any sense to me.
James: In africa.. It happens.. The banker pulls the money out and holds the money until his break.. You then meet somewhere and exchange hands
Me: I get it.
A personal question - when we spoke on the phone I couldn't help but notice your accent had a hint of USA in it?
James: Lol
Me: You've obvously spent some time out of Africa?
James: Been there since 1990
Me: In the US?
James: Just came back to Africa a couple of years back
Yes
Me: I thought as much.
James: Sstudied there
Me: Why on earth would you come back? Family here I presume?
James: Actually, yes
Me: Family is important.
That's probably the only thing that would take me to Africa, I'm afraid to say.
Different question. We have had a lot of trouble at WU over the past few years with hackers. Especially over the past 6 months or so.
Do you have contacts who are hackers?
Still there James?
James: Yes I'm here
I know a few but they are quite greedy
They require upfront payment before giving you hacked information
Me: I may be able to help you with a hacker contact.
James: How?
Me: The less asked about this the better.
But he is a Nigerian carder/hacker, and he has a Russian money-mover.
He steals credit cards and hacks into bank accounts. He then unloads the cards into the bank accounts and then funnels the money to the Russian money man. The money man drains that laundering account, closes it, and splits the money up between all parties.
James: All ears
Cool
How do you know about all this?
Ill like to get hooked up with these hackers
Me: As I said, the less questions asked, the better. Let's just say I have my own dark past before I worked at WU.
James: Ok
How long have you worked at WU
Me: I still have my fingers in a couple of pies, you understand?
James: Sure I understand
Me: Would you like me to put you in touch?
James: Sure
His he a nigerian?
Me: Ok. You want to talk to Ifeanyi, but don't waste his time too much - he likes to get down to business.
Yes he is nigerian.
James: Ok
What deal do you think me and ifeanyi could work on?
Me: That is up to you and him. He will be able to explain all of that.
James: Ok
Me: I will pass your email address on to Ifeanyi.
James: No.. Pass me his.. Ill initiate contact
Me: Very well. ifeanyi*****@*****.com (This is Joker's nigerian hacker character. He's caused a few lads some serious pain, and hopefully can do the same again. Work your magic Joker)
James: Ok
Who do I tell him gave me his Id
Me: You can tell him I did.
James: Ok
Me: Ok, I am going to clock off for the night.
Get a good night's sleep, and tomorrow we will conclude our business.
Good night James.

To be concluded this morning, after which James probably won't like me very much...

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:02 pm

Hi Chickenlegs,

If you want to keep this going Have the police arrive to investigate under the auditors' findings. They may find nothing or there has been a clerk stealing from the system.
Warn your pet to stay away for a while. He will avoid any connection that way. Mad panic and "do not get caught" If he proceeds with the transaction you both will be arrested. It may buy you a few days.

Perhaps a stupid clerk has dabbled too much in the till. Warn your pet and all will be cool. He will become suspicious but he is hooked. Let things cool down and then you can continue. If he drops you it would have headed that way anyway had you no further plan.

I have given you a seed. Work on your own plan and allow the seed to grow.
Imagine the lad pain after that.
He is a scumbag and deserves it all. He is feeding the less capable. He will go back to writing scripts after this. I don't know what we can do to waste his time. He is in the background.

Well done so far.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:24 pm

Great baiting chickenlegs, and I love the way he has offered up a few little gems on the art of scamming.

I sense that he has a well developed superiority complex, which combined with his greed should come in handy. A little bit of ego stroking wouldn't go astray. I think he wants to show that he is not a small boi.

His story seems to have changed and it seems doubtful that he is doing it as rough as he is trying to imply.

Keep it up, can't wait for the next installment!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:26 pm

I am ecstatic!!!

You have described me perfectly Very Happy

And good intel on how the mugu operates.

Well done

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:41 pm

Wow chickenlegs, I think you are doing some fantastic manipulation on this lad. Don't worry about the slip with the email blacklist, it's always easy to look back in hindsight and think of better/different things you could have done.

I dunno what you have planned for the "conclusion" but if he's been passed off to Joker's able hands for a different flavour of bait, one nice possibility could be that your wu character gets caught and fired from his job with threat of arrest looming. sending one last mail "the MTCNs are activated but no idea how long they will remain, get there immediately or it's finished".

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Very impressive WIMPing and now bringing Iffy in. I expect there will be some serious crying soon!

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:33 pm

I am eagerly looking forward to Joker's portion of this bait. Great work.