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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:42 pm

So, I've called a refugee right now. I was expecting the usual young man, but there was...

A LITTLE BOY ON THE PHONE. AN EFFING CHILD!!!!

This lads are pure scum. No, wait, even worse. I'm co-baiting him with Muzungu the Huntress, but, if things don't go well, it might be a good time for a mass-bait (by the way, I'll see what I can do to get the lad investigated, just for the sake of the kid, but no hopes here).

I just needed to share.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:56 pm

That is sad to hear, but not unique i fear. Some start the trade young.

I would love to hear a recording if it exists.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:00 pm

I didn't record it. It was just the "Hello, it's me, I'm real, oh, hang on a sec... call you later, lad".

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:19 pm

I had dealings with a young lad once, i don't know how old but perhaps 18. We fucked him up rather good and his sister called me whining about him only being a kid. Well what he didn't tell her was his "work on the side" so i filled her in. She cried when i told her. Sad to hear that. I hope she talked him around.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:08 pm

As far as I know, this is a very young boy, I'd say around 10, and the e-mails are definitely too adult for a boy of this age (he's more or less off script now). I guess that the "true" lad is using him as a telephonist. He could be the lad's son, nephew... Another possibility is that I'm dealing with a female with a very childish voice and skilled as an actress, because the "boy" was really sure of what he was saying, although it sounded as something learnt by heart.

Baiting Guru Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 4747

A general rule with mugus and the game is have sympathy for NO ONE. I could imagine a syndicate would use a kid, they are easier to exploit and less likely to be suspect.

A way to look at it, think of something so low even the scammers would not do it. Guess what they are doing it.

Keep in this tradition, I offer them no sympathy. .

*** BANNED *** Joined: 26 Jul 2012 Posts: 1123

^ without throwing all the talk about psychology of a child and their formative years etc etc out there ..... agreed.

Tururut no mercy. Spank the child and spank his handlers harder. Do your best to make sure the child sees his handlers get hit. It will drive in a point that he is probably not getting at home.

Baiting Guru Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 7103 Location: Yes

I think you have to use common sense. You don't want to affirmatively harm a lad's child -- it's not his/her fault who his/her parent is. On the other hand, the lad is going to scam no matter what you do and that child is going to be part of it -- apparently.

I would suggest you do what you feel comfortable doing, but you shouldn't do anything against the child certainly, but if he is taking calls for his dad, I don't see that as baiting a child.

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 1440

The thing is, most of these scammers see what they do as a job or profession. I'm sure they think it's just fine to raise a kid to follow in their footsteps and they would no doubt be very proud the day their son pulls off a scam on his own.

Doesn't make it any less disgusting or revolting, I know.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:02 pm

^^^ I think sometime back someone posted an article about how their families feel about their youngsters running AFF's, etc.. I will go look for it and if I find it will "edit" this post to include it. It was Ima who first posted the original article.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=197653&highlight=age+children+scams

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:31 pm

There is nothing you can do if a lad chooses to have his family involved in his scamming even if it sucks. In this case I think it's pretty simple. Just tell the child you need to talk to an adult and get the lad on the phone. I personally would never bait a child of 10 directly but if the lad is using him to answer his phone I have no problem getting the kid to hand it over to the lad and bait the hell out of him. Sadly there is a good chance the kid will follow his fathers footsteps. Even so I would not feel good about directly baiting a child. Hopefully he will come across a baiter when he turns of age.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:03 am

I'd probably slap the lad.

He is obviously not a real businessman and he must not be serious about the transaction if he is willing to let a child get in the middle of it.

Lads are often chauvinistic or even misogynistic. If you really want to twist the knife, tell him something along the lines of "How can I trust you if you can't even keep his home under control? You are supposed to be the man of the house!"

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:39 am

Lateral thinking here, but depending on the type of scam, how many potential victims would not be suspicious of some toddler suddenly being the negotiator in a serious financial transaction?

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 1440

@Morgain le Fay: Interesting article. That's pretty much how I saw it.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:38 pm

^^^ The thanks should go to Ima Baeder, since it was she who originally posted the article.