Should I encourage my puppy to do this for me or let him go?

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Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

I am not going to sign this up myself but I am stuck here. PLEASE HELP!!!!

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1839441#1839441 He wants me to open an account to accept money for hid and forward via WU but I am unsure of where this falls in the rules. I am not real comfortable with it but I can shoulder it if it is legal and ethical.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:56 pm

If I am understanding this correctly, he wants you to open a real bank account?
Sounds like since you are not sending any money, the scammer is trying to use you as a mule to receive stolen money instead.

That's completely illegal, and an absolute "no."

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:35 pm

Making up a fake bank account seems like a reasonable compromise.

What would be truly warped would be to use another Lad's account.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:45 pm

Tell "her" that due to misbehaviour when you were younger that you have been banned from opening a Bank Account ( prehaps you were a bank robber... Laughing

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That should get you out of that dilemma !

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:17 pm

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What would be truly warped would be to use another Lad's account.

Again, absolutely not.

The scammer is looking for an account to receive money, so that he can get a victim to send it, or transfer it from a phished account. Either way, giving him ANY real account means that victim money will be transferred to it. The 2nd scammer will gladly accept the money and keep it. You may be burning the first scammer, but you are burning a victim as well.

You can certainly try the fake account, but since the scammer asked for a specific bank, I don't expect it would fool the scammer for a minute.

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:16 pm

Tell him that since the ID requirements for opening accounts were increased in 2010, you don't have enough points to open a new one - you're 30 points short and you've got nothing else to add.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 19

A definite no no. If you did open the account (it would have to be in your name, what with the identity requirements) It would soon come under suspicion and you could find yourself charged with fraud at worst and aiding and abetting at least.

419Eater is my life Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 441

A fake account might not be bad, as the money the victim would send would eventually be returned, thus gaining time (to raise suspicion on the victim's side).

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:52 pm

The problem is how to open a fake account at a real bank. If you know the number of a closed account at the bank, you could use that. Or you could call the bank, explain that you're a baiter, and see if you can get one that way.

The other way is to ask the lad if the account has to be at Chase, because you already have an account at <insert fake bank here>. If he goes for it, you can tell him the fake SWIFT code and account number of your fake bank.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:57 pm

Wurzgnubbel wrote:

A fake account might not be bad, as the money the victim would send would eventually be returned, thus gaining time (to raise suspicion on the victim's side).

I think that would be a NO. A mod will correct if I am wrong.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:03 pm

Yastreb's "modality" would be a good way to stall things for a while.

vonpaso xlura comes up with the idea of a fake account - That gives me a couple of ideas:
- A fake account with a real bank would make the payment sit for a while before it bounces.
- One could tell the lad that your authorities require that the payer must be clearly identified (with an email addy) when it comes to transfers from outside your country.

The latter will probably make most lads back out, but the ones buying it will give you plenty of opportunity to warn the victims, who in turn should have their money back as it couldn't find the receiver.

@Dorothy - Would that be a way to do it?

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 582

Maybe tell the lad that you did open an account but you bank requires the sender's bank account number, swift code, etc BEFORE your account can accept a transfer due to some new anti-money laundering laws Then forward the sender's name and bank info onto a mod to notify the victim-sender and maybe Alan so he can keep an eye on that account. While I wouldn't want to see a victim's account shut down, they could be duped and need to be notified of what is really going on with their new job or overseas boyfriend.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:51 pm

^^^ Great idea Exclamation

- That will stall things and possibly also generate something useful for The Man Smile

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

This knucklehead has chosen a new path with half of a pig in the balance. I will not claim it with the little tidbit he gave me.

A lot of my lads seem to be playing this way lately. Most are giving up a name, acct number and bank name but nothing else. I am sending to the man but I don't think it is enough.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:25 pm

Morgain Le Fay wrote:

Wurzgnubbel wrote:

A fake account might not be bad, as the money the victim would send would eventually be returned, thus gaining time (to raise suspicion on the victim's side).

I think that would be a NO. A mod will correct if I am wrong.

I think a mod already did... Wink

Dorothy wrote:

You can certainly try the fake account, but since the scammer asked for a specific bank, I don't expect it would fool the scammer for a minute.

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