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MansfordMann75
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi all

I'm very new to the site - one day old! - and have been doing a bit of digging around seeing what you guys get up to and laughing myself stupid at your Hall of Shame. I'm not really sure where to start with it all so have, naturally, been googling around and found this....

http://robinson-franklin.org/

Doesn't look strictly like a 419 scam but the sense of humour of whoever is behind this is strangely familiar to this site!

Do you bother cold-callers or is it strictly internet scammers? Sorry if I've missed this on an introductory sticky, I've tried to do all the reading but have almost definitely missed something!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello and welcome.

Some of the answers are probably in this thread http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=176248

It will give you answers about who we bait -- 419 AFF'ers

Click on the topics:

What is 419?
What are the most common types of 419 proposals?
How does the scam work?
How did they get my name?
Why is this scam so popular?

Although reading the items on the entire link would be informative.

Good luck. When ready apply for a mentor and get started baiting.

To sign up for a mentor go to the Scambaiting Help, Hints & Tips thread

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome to the Eater MansfordMann.

To answer your original question, my guess is that the site in question is simply satire, and probably not the work of a baiter.

It is a rather well done site however.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Its not even satire persay, its a promo for a movie, several links go staright to youtube for a crappy new film with ben affleck in Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's an old film called 'Boiler Room'.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ fair enough, i didnt watch the clip long enough lol i saw ben affleck and closed the tab Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd say it's probably an unhappy customer of these people: http://www.robinsonfranklin.com/

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^

this site would be extremely funny to use it in a bait. but as there is a real company, this makes those people ITPs.

but I don't see a problem to contact the holder of the first page, if he wants to help us bait lads. this site is well designed. different logo, maybe another front picture and baiter-names.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for all your replies, chaps. I'm really not sure that RF is a genuine company. I googled them and there seems to be loads of people who are convinced they're a scam. Appreciate boiler rooms (also loved the cinematic reference on the site) isn't your usual bag, but all scum are the same surely...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Exhibit A:

http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/non-forex-scam-alerts/19082-robinson-franklin-scam.html
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

How was the site used? Was it to back up the legitimacy (having you look at the site, nothing else), or was it to login and/or give informations to it?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, I'm pretty much an innocent bystander with this site so I can't be sure what the intentions behind it are.

I clicked on a few of the links and there doesn't seem to be any way of contacting the baiter directly. This can only lead to the conclusion that it's a way of putting off potential 'customers' if they do any digging themselves. I guess the original website is so swish - and therefore convincing - that the guy who is doing it is saying... 'look, it's actually remarkably easy to make a legitimate-looking company' complete with Director Bios, Testimonials etc.

Whichever way you look at it, the scammer website is unlikely to end up in your Hall of Shame anytime soon (am seriously considering using some of those as my wallpaper!) and I guess a counter-PR campaign was what this baiter thought was necessary. Hats off.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I can't take the time to investigate fully, but there are many claims on the internet that the original .com site exists to lend legitimacy to an offshore boiler room operation. Boiler rooms are shady or outright fraudulent setups that use high-pressure tactics to sell thinly traded stocks. Often they are insider operations set up to inflate stock prices artificially (pump and dump). The OP's site is someone's attempt to out the alleged fraudsters.

Whoever these guys are, we don't bait these types of scammers so I'm moving this to Miscellaneous.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry for the misunderstanding, Bohignal. Thanks for moving to its rightful place.
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