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 Child For Adoption. Are you interested?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This is my first time receiving a adoption scam. I have only read about one on Scamwarners. I would love to hit this lad hard, but I need the help of someone or someones who has done this sort of bait before. I was thinking of an older husband/wife with grown children bait, but I am open to any idea. I have not baited with a partner before, so that is another reason for reaching out to you guys/gals. Here are the details.....

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-----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> Sent: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:36:26 -0000
> To:
> Subject: Child For Adoption. Are you interested?
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is Mrs Yetunde Owolabi from Republic of Benin, I gave birth to
> twins, 2 Babies at a time after the death my husband on 18th of July 2011
> by auto car accident. Already we have received 5 children from God, right
> now to feed the 5 children is a problem talk-less of the Babies, thing
> are getting bad day by day so I decided to give out the Babies for
> adoption, after explaining myself and my family situation to the State
> Social Welfare, they accepted I should go ahead for adoption because they
> too can no longer bear with us again. Thank God my Babies are perfectly
> good condition of health. They are three months and some days, a girl and
> a boy.
>
> If you are interested to adopt the Babies, kindly reply back for more
> details, I will also give you the contact detail of the Lawyer who will
> legalized the documents at the state welfare and the State high court
> before the Babies become legally yours.
>
> Please bear this in mind that am not selling my Babies, all I need from
> you is Love, care and good upbringing so that they will become good
> children to the society and the nation at large.
>
> God bless you,
> Mrs Yetunde Owolabi


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There is a thread on Eater. This "mother" has tried to adopt out her babies just a month or so ago.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=213186&highlight=adoption

dwatina (Giles) and I never got very far with the adoption.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^Thanks for the heads up. Sorry, I'm still new enough at this to think "I'ts new to me. It must be new to everyone." Laughing

I will try with her and let everyone know if something comes of it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ No problem. I think this thread and bait started back about the time you joined Eater.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Find out where in Benin, I'll be in Benin in a few weeks. I'd love to meet these lovely babies and if not be able to adopt at least provide a charitable contribution. But surely this is a scam!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Maybe Angelina Jolie might be interested.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry, but this scam knocks me sick. There really are no limits, are there?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ The "mother" is really a lad and lads have no limits to preying upon people if the end result is money in their pocket.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I posted her previous script, which I kept from when I baited her (I didn't get very far either), on SW under the current one. Comparing the two, it's obvious she's lying.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@Justcold: Getting the lawyer off script is the key. You're going to have to be creative.

Personally-I played it straight as a reverend with Morgain as my wife, and the lawyer was a dickhead.

Maybe play it a bit unorthodox or crazy?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@ scaffle: you're right. This is a life-ruining scam. The lad doing it is fair game for anything you want.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This is what I sent her, unfortunately I know it is not very original. I will try different approaches with other characters.

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Dear Mrs. Owolabi:

Are you sure that is what you want to do? You said you are from
Benin? I would implore you to think twice before giving up your
children. They are a gift from God and they need their Mother. Is
there anything my organization can do for you? Please reconsider for
the babies sake. Write to me. I will be praying for you.


Edit: @VX and Dwatina, thank you...

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ask if the child has had all his/her shots --- measles, rabies, distemper, lycanthropy etc.

You never can be too careful.

Ask for a medical certificate affirming that the child is in good health and fully vaccinated.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Scaffle wrote:
Sorry, but this scam knocks me sick. There really are no limits, are there?


No, there are not. Go to Scamwarners some time and you can read cases of real victims. Many are older and have sacrificed their retirement money, medical payments, children's college funds, etc., in order to pay the various fees to the scammers. In many cases the scammers are told by the victims exactly what the money is supposed to be used for, and that the victim needs to get it back. Of course the scammers don't even flinch and are always reassuring with promises of eventual pay off, but it never happens. Very sad to read those things, and very motivational from a baiting perspective.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I wonder what the lad would do if a 60 yr old male convicted pedophile wanted to know if he could adopt? He is a millionaire, after all...

Could be a fun bait. Would definitely get them off script quickly.

Or would that be crossing a line? Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You would probably see no difference as there are no children there to harm. If the lad can see that abuse will take place as a result of his format he may react, or he may not. He may just walk away. Not his problem, after all.
This has been tried once ... The lad hesitated at first then allowed events to take their course.
These are not caring people.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I really thought about going that route when we were after three plates. The more I thought about it, I knew I couldn't stomach it.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Here is what she gave me for a phone number...trying to get me to call her..

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To be honest with you, I called it was answering machine but i have no option than to drop a massage, Kindly call me on this number now +2347025426615

Await your call.

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I don't know if that is useful to any of you. Making international calls is beyond where I'm at right now I think.. I'm trying to get her to send a few pics of herself but she seems to be ignoring that so far.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have not got the lad off script yet. Goot seems to have something working, so if anyone has some advice or help let us know.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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I wonder what the lad would do if a 60 yr old male convicted pedophile wanted to know if he could adopt?


I also asked her if she had any strong, older kids I could have along with the babies, basically to be a slave in my home. There was no problem with that, but all she could offer me was a 3 year old. I complained that a toddler was no use to me.

You could say you want kids to use in child porn and get the same reply.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Justcold: It's going to be hard to get her and the lawyer off script. They stray a bit, but they will basically stick with it. You may get a picture of some babies they got off the internet, but that's about it. I had no luck getting medical records, birth certificates, or anything like that. And like Goot, I got a phone number, but I didn't waste my time calling.

The "mother" says she can't afford the information I need, and the children are starving and the lawyer can't get medical records or birth certificates until you pay the fee.

They are just going to keep you running around in circles, I hate to say.

One thought comes to mind--possibly introducing a lawyer character of your own into it? Throw out some legal gibberish and maybe that will get the lawyer off script. So far as the mother--she will keep crying poverty and can't send you any info or pics of kids.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks dwatina...I just retained an attorney.. Twisted Evil

Edit: Geazz i cainnt speel

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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It seems you didn't read my previous message as I have answered a few of those questions already. Can you send me a picture of the children? I love their names, they are adorable. I do not mean to offend, but I think that your information including documentation should be sent to me first as you are the one who approached me with this deal. You can have your lawyer forward them to me as I know it is 100% necessary for him to have yours on file in order to prove that you have the rights to sign the children over to us. As soon as we have this our information will be forthcoming.


This is my first reply after the initial email she sent. I think I got dropped already. I think the logic was too much for this one to even bother.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dwatina and I found this to be what I call an "unstable" bait. I am not sure the scammer(s) knows what he/she is doing.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sometimes the scripts are crap; sometimes the scammers are, and sometimes it's a bit of both. I often wonder how 419 is such a lucrative business with such incompetents touting the scams.

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