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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Travelling across the US and Canada in 2010, I found it hard to keep track of whether I was going to the restroom for a rest, to the bathroom for a bath, the powder room for a powder or to the washroom for a wash, when all I wanted to do was go to the toilet....

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Morgain - Well, I didn't grow up way down in southern MD but where I'm from, Steamed hardshell crabs was the norm... and yes... served with beer and my lips were quite numb from the Old Bay.

I currently possess a gallon sized container of Old Bay in my cabinet. I use it on everything - fries, corn on the cob, salad etc. I LOVE that stuff!

For those that aren't familiar with UTZ potato chips which is based out of the snack capitol of the world, they have a crab chip that is dusted with old bay seasoning to give it that crab flavor Marylanders are so accustomed to Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think you'll find that these are crisps, not chips:

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Chips are these:

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And fries are those skinny things that McD's serve:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

OK.... Here in the US...

Pic #1 - potato chips.
Pic #2 - fries
Pic #3 - more fries lol

A french fry (fries) is a french fry by any other name - is still a french fry. Although when the French refused to help us in Iraq, many places here replaced french fries with either freedom fries or american fries.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Roycropper wrote:
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One thing I have never quite understood is that MOST houses in America or Canada are made of wood.... what is the reason for this do you think??

Dunno but it keeps fire brigades in a job. More trees than clay for bricks perhaps? Houses are enough trouble without worrying about them rotting.

Meanwhile, what do you call these?

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Round here they are teacakes, but it varies all over the UK, never mind the US. Muffins, rolls, baps, stotties etc etc..



Hey Roy cropper,

I missed that one somehow, I apologise

I would call them hot cross buns I think
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Craptastic Goddess Am quite familiar with Old Bay. Southerners use it too. I understand now there are different flavors - some to blacken fish, etc and one with garlic. Did you know back in the day crabs were so cheap that bars gave them away FREE and the seasonings so strong you drank more (beer).

Try it on popcorn.


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@Sold_Me_Out I think hot cross buns having icing in the shape of a cross on them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A question for Americans on this forum

I would really like an opinion, as I have always been curious at how the London accent sounds to you guys


I just want to know if any of you understand ANYTHING of what the characters are saying in these clips that I have posted down below. (the main character is the dark haired guy,) its one of our flagship shows, EastEnders, and people here either love it or hate it, like Marmite (another one of our specialities, lol

I posted 2, because one of them I reckon they speak a bit slower...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4kjIVzlgCE&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3eNPKDCk3o&feature=relmfu


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I understood about every 5th word of the first clip. The bald guy made the most sense. It looked like some kind if gay prison flick, very strange.

I made it about 15 seconds into the second clip.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It really is funny the differences between terminology between areas all in the same country. I had never heard the term "party store" until recently we call that a c-store.

For about 5 years I travelled 90% of the time for work. I got to go to most major cities in the US. It was then I learned words I say daily are not real words i.e. fixin. I had a real hard time understanding accents from NY and Boston. They often looked at me like I had two heads when I talked.

Food is another thing that is drastically different. I remember being in Cincinati and seeing chili places everywhere. I was excited as every good Texan loves then some chili. So I stopped by Gold Star and I should have known something was wrong when they had chili on spaghetti. What ever I put in my mouth it was not chili...Also Texas is the only place to get good Mexican (well I guess Tex-Mex). I have had ok Mexican food in California but not the same. In the South West it's completely different. I do really like soft shell crab and it is impossible to find here. Having a crawfish boil in May and I can't wait!


I am curious why the Brits call French fries "chips". To confuse the matter when you eat them in the morning here they can be hash browns or home fries depending on how the potato is cut.

Oh and another term for a cigerette is a "square". Why? I have no idea...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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I understood about every 5th word of the first clip. The bald guy made the most sense. It looked like some kind if gay prison flick, very strange.

I made it about 15 seconds into the second clip.


LOl, only one of the characters was gay, and that Queeny, the tall curly haired one

The dark haired guy was the womaniser of the show, wrongly banged up for something he didn't do

When you say 5th of every word... I take it you didn't understand the dark haired guy

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sold_Me_Out wrote:
A question for Americans on this forum

I would really like an opinion, as I have always been curious at how the London accent sounds to you guys

Cheers


I understood them. I find that listening to it for a while, I become accustomed to the accent and can easily adapt. I loved watching the original Dr. Who series if that's a plus for me Smile

Funny how Brits seem to think that Americans have accents and vice versa. Guess it all depends on where you are at the moment (here or there)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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I should have known something was wrong when they had chili on spaghetti. What ever I put in my mouth it was not chili

A good Cincinnati Chili is awesome, if you're not expecting tex-mex chili con carne. It's actually a variation invented by two Armenian guys who missed their home cookin'. Did you have it 5-way? That's the only way. So says mr bo, you betcha.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I listened to the clips. I could understand most of it especially the second clip. More important question is why British TV shows looke like they were filmed in the 80s. Also are those supposed to be comedy's? Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Food is another thing that is drastically different. I remember being in Cincinati and seeing chili places everywhere. I was excited as every good Texan loves then some chili. So I stopped by Gold Star and I should have known something was wrong when they had chili on spaghetti. What ever I put in my mouth it was not chili...


Oh it's chili alright. Just not the Texas version. Cincinnati chili is something my kids LOVE and we're not even from there. If you do travel through there, you can get it up to 5 different ways. They are:

One-way: chili in a bowl
Two-way: chili and spaghetti
Three-way: chili, spaghetti, and cheese
Four-way: chili, spaghetti, cheese, and onions
Five-way: chili, spaghetti, cheese, onions, and beans

The uniqueness of the taste comes primarily because of the combination of 16 different spices along with chocolate (to give it body) and honey ( to add sweetness)

If anyone is interested in the recipe that I have, pm me and I will gladly share it. Of course, my kids like it when I make it at the very least FIVE alarm. Extremely HOT. Hot enough to make ya break a sweat. If you "can't" handle it that is lol. My kids are used to it so they don't even bat so much as an eyelash at the heat.

We love it over spaghetti but it's also very excellent on foot long hotdogs as well and over burgers.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Bo I think I had a three way..I'll try a five way next time if I can pull it off.

@TCG yeah I think that was what I didn't like it was sweet and I remember tasting cinnamon.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

bravo95 wrote:
I listened to the clips. I could understand most of it especially the second clip. More important question is why British TV shows looke like they were filmed in the 80s. Also are those supposed to be comedy's? Smile


Those clips I just posted WERE filmed in the 80's, sorry I should have mentioned that...but the dialect hasn't changed one bit.

The answer to your second question is that this show is a SERIOUS drama show, not a comedy... although, because of UK humour, a lot of the characters will use sarcasm and irony SOMETIMES even when being serious, lol

I didn't post recent ones, as I think the show has gone down hill (cliche?)

But here is one recent clip, of the same show... maybe you can see if the dialects easier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qOF1aZ5DvI

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That clip was much easier to understand. Most all of the guys sound like Jason Statham to me. I liked the "Bobby" I have a thing for women in uniform but that's for a different thread.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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That clip was much easier to understand. Most all of the guys sound like Jason Statham to me. I liked the "Bobby" I have a thing for women in uniform but that's for a different thread.



Lol, she was lovely aye?

I think she had a northern English accent, but the rerst of them are Londoners

Talking of Mexican food, I went to a resturant in South Orange NJ once, which was cool

But I guess I don't know Mexican food, lol
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sold_Me_Out wrote:
A question for Americans on this forum
I would really like an opinion, as I have always been curious at how the London accent sounds to you guys


Here's a little challenge for our American cousins.

Listen to THIS.
Then watch it back and read the sub-titles to see how much of it you understood
on first listen. I think you will be totally lost after the first 18 seconds.

Should probably say its a bit sweary so NSFW

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Mexican Food in New Jersy Shocked Yes way too far north. Although it is a great place for Italian (well American Itallian). Pizza really is better in NY and NJ than anywhere else in the US. It's good in Chicago too but that's more like a pizza style casserole as far as I'm concerned.

Another place I ate something that is never the same anywhere else is a Cuban sandwich in Miami. I've seen them elsewhere but never the same or as good.

Shit sorry this is turning into the food network thread!


Question for UK baiters. Why do British people end comments with a question? I.E. "That's a lovely dust bin isn't it."

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The only place you will find an awesome Philly cheese steak sub is of course, in Philly. Hmm... kids go to their dad's this evening. I have time to kill... just an hour and a half away.... I might just have to take a trip to get me one. Wink

The more grease oozes from it, the better it tastes lol
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^^Agreed! The best one I had was in a little hole in a wall next to a adult movie theater. Please eat one for me too.

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Drives me out of my tree to hear the British use American phraseology. "Hi" (or even worse, "Hey") instead of "Hello". "Movie" instead of "Film". "Step up to the plate", "Don't go there", etc.

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[quote="The Craptastic Goddess"]
Sold_Me_Out wrote:
A question for Americans on this forum

I would really like an opinion, as I have always been curious at how the London accent sounds to you guys

Cheers
I understood them. I find that listening to it for a while, I become accustomed to the accent and can easily adapt. I loved watching the original Dr. Who series if that's a plus for me Smile

Funny how Brits seem to think that Americans have accents and vice versa. Guess it all depends on where you are at the moment (here or there)



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The old Doctor Who was better, from 1960's to 80's... saw them on video, as I am to young to have seen them on TV

They started a new series around 20044, and it has continued since... not as good I don't think

Would you say the first clip's dark haired guy looks like a rookie/rogue/hardman type??

Glad you understood the accent
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

if it's Eastenders then the accents are self-evidently thick east end London accents which can fox English people, let alone Americans.

Accents both side of the pond are often tidied up for TV. I've found some Americans quite hard to understand in person, much harder than film/TV would have me believe. I expect the opposite applies.

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