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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 5

http://customerdetails.info/p4d.ca/howto.html

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:52 pm

Do you have reason to suspect it is fake? Do you have any details you can share? Or are you advertising?

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 5

No, not advertising... am worried about a craigslist scam. was directed to this site to complete a sale.

Here is what i was emailed when I replied to a Macbook add on Craigslist

[i]"I was checking for a way to make the exchange from here to you in the US and I came across this option, which is a very good way to make this exchange. They provide excellent service and have very good reviews as far as I've seen.
It's provide by a company called P4D and it will help us with this transaction.
They seem designed specifically for internet transactions, they handle both the payment and delivery part of this transaction. They seem pretty nice and trustworthy and they provide a service that we can use for our exchange.
The link below is taken from the P4D site and it explains the procedure I am talking about in 7 easy to follow steps. Please check the link and the procedure and let me know if you agree to the terms.

http://customerdetails.info/p4d.ca/howto.html

With this procedure I will take the laptop to P4D, they will notify you they have the laptop for you, you will send them the payment and they will deliver the laptop to you and send me the payment for the laptop only after you receive and test it and then instruct P4D to send me the funds.
I will pay for next day delivery so you will receive the laptop in 2-3 days max.
Let me know if we can proceed. "[/i]

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 923

You are correct about this being a fake website. There are tons of flags on this one.

Let us know if you want to post it to the Fake Sites forum or if you want me to take care of it I would be more than happy to help!

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

^^^Adda can definitely take that one down, but this may be one that needs a massbait. Can you share some information here?

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 5

Sorry.... I am a noob here so I am not sure what it means to massbait vs takedown. I would love for someone to take it down or otherwise foil this persons attempt to scam folks.

How can i help?

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 923

I'll go ahead and post this in the fake sites for you and get it taken down. "Next Victim" was looking for an email address and the original email along with the header information if at all possible.

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

If you can share the original link to the ad and post the first email to and from this guy and the header information it would give us something to work with.

You may want to PM ADDA and see what is needed to take that site down. Some of these people are smart enough to knock up sites as fast as Adda and the site killers can take them down.

ETA:Ninja'd by adda.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 923

Website has been posted for take down. This site should drop quick once it gets its DB entry, it won't need a report.

An email address or some more info on the scam would be awesome to have though so when he does set up a new site we will know about it.

Just in case you were wondering the legitimate site is here at http://www.p4d.co.uk

EDIT: Forum post found here http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1781026#1781026

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 5

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Original Add in Craigsist:
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/sys/2754398023.html
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"MacBook Pro - $500 (durham)
Date: 2011-12-15, 10:56AM EST
Reply to: [email protected] [Errors when replying to ads?]
I have decided to sell my MacBook Pro laptop. Like new condition, 2010 version with i5 processor. 500 Gb hard disk. 4 Gb memory.
$500 for everything. Applecare included.

Location: durham
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

PostingID: 2754398023"

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Here is the email received from Robert when asking about this (i took out my email address below and replaced it with e*******@gmail.com just in case)
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Delivered-To: e*******@gmail.com
Received: by 10.182.88.72 with SMTP id be8cs15931obb;
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:24:57 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.68.73.104 with SMTP id k8mr15669396pbv.104.1324038295416;
Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:24:55 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
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(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
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Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning [email protected] does not designate 69.174.245.204 as permitted sender) [email protected]
Received: from Roger-PC (ACBE2ECC.ipt.aol.com [172.190.46.204])
(Authenticated sender: SDT01386-0001)
by sdt2.safedatatech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 04D61D8A0A6
for <e*******@gmail.com>; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:24:51 -0500 (EST)
To: <e*******@gmail.com>
From: "Robert Thibaud" <[email protected]>
Organization: Robert Thibaud
Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?Re:_15=22_Unibody_MacBook_Pro,_i5_2,53_Ghz_processor,_4_Gb_memory,_500Gb_HD,_facetime_camera_for_=24500?=
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:21:53 +0200
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
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X-GlobalMailRelay-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information
X-GlobalMailRelay-MailScanner-ID: 04D61D8A0A6.AEBC6
X-GlobalMailRelay-MailScanner: Found to be clean
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X-Spam-Status: No

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hi, this is Robert Thibaud and I am getting back to you
regarding the 15" Unibody MacBook Pro from Craigslist. <BR>I am now in Surrey,
BC in Canada and I am selling the 15" Unibody MacBook Pro, with 2.53 Ghz i5
Processor, 4 Gb memory, 500 Gb HD for $500 USD. <BR>I hope you are still
interested in buying it. <BR>This Macbook Pro was ordered brand new directly
from Apple on May 24th, 2010. <BR>About the laptop I can say it is 17 Months old
and it is in good shape, no scratches, no dents as you can see from the pics
I've sent. Included in the $500 price is everything the laptop came with when it
was new, including the original manuals and warranty papers. The laptop still
has Applecare warranty until May 24th, 2013. The Applecare warranty is fully
transferable to the new owner.<BR>I tried to be a thorough as I could with the
presentation so you can have all the info if you decide to go ahead and buy it.
<BR>I have used the laptop mostly for internet browsing and presentations, so I
would say it has been only lightly used. <BR>The laptop has the Lion 10.7.2 OS,
the iLife 11 and the MS Office 2011 with the original recovery disks included.
<BR>One more thing, the laptop is an US version and it works on the US power and
plug system so you do not need a converter to use it in the US. <BR>Attached are
some photos so you can see the condition before you decide if you want to buy it
or not. <BR>Get back to me and let me know if you like the laptop and you wish
to buy it. <BR><BR>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT color=#888888>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000
face=Arial>Robert</FONT></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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And then finally this instruction which has the link I mentioned
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Delivered-To: e*******@gmail.com
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Return-Path: <[email protected]>
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From: Robert Thibaud <[email protected]>
To: <e*******@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: 15" Unibody MacBook Pro, the pics again
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:18:59 +0000
Importance: Normal
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I was checking for a way to make the exchange from here to you in the US an=
d I came across this option=2C which is a very good way to make this exchan=
ge. They provide excellent service and have very good reviews as far as I'v=
e seen.
It's provide by a company called P4D and it will help us with this transact=
ion.
They seem designed specifically for internet transactions=2C they handle bo=
th the payment and delivery part of this transaction. They seem pretty nice=
and trustworthy and they provide a service that we can use for our exchang=
e.
The link below is taken from the P4D site and it explains the procedure I a=
m talking about in 7 easy to follow steps. Please check the link and the pr=
ocedure and let me know if you agree to the terms.
http://customerdetails.info/p4d.ca/howto.html =20
With this procedure I will take the laptop to P4D=2C they will notify you t=
hey have the laptop for you=2C you will send them the payment and they will=
deliver the laptop to you and send me the payment for the laptop only afte=
r you receive and test it and then instruct P4D to send me the funds.
I will pay for next day delivery so you will receive the laptop in 2-3 days=
max.
Let me know if we can proceed.=20
=20
Robert

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21158

Thank you ed1! I'll get after this guy tomorrow!

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 5

Thank you!! This is the first time this has ever happened to me personally....makes me so angry. I did some research and kept hearing people mention this web site. Glad I came here.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 923

This website is now offline.

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