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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 9

help!! i have discovered my brother is being scammed by a nigerian internet scammer..i went on to his email andi was chatting to them,calling them all the c**ts under the sun,but they wouldnt go away,insisting on talking to my brother and for him to send money via western union...from what i understand they have had thousands of pounds off him already and i want it to stop!!...how do i stop these people?..i know its too late for my brother to retieve any of his money back so i thought,time to scam the scammer!!..id appreciate any help you can give me

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:54 am

Hi Jeanie, sorry to hear how things are going.
Please try scamwarners. com our sister site, they are better in preventing or saving what can be saved + you help other people to do the same.

Once you got that sorted out we can see how we can help your new "friend", best read a bit and ask for a mentor in this forum.

And yes, almost forgot, WELCOME here

Baiting Guru Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 4747

Hmm have you informed law enforcement?

To "stop" a scammer you eed to convince the victim that that are being taken. Have you googled any of the scammers information. If you can find google hits that are similar to whatever deal your brother is involved in it might help convince him.

But at best this will stop this mugu from scamming one victim. That where we come in, we try as hard as we can to slow down or stop the scammers.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:53 am

It might be useful to post the original email from the scammer, along with his current email address (sometimes their addresses are shut down and they switch to new ones), in surplus, along with a note that this mugu is scamming your brother. We can tarpit him, zank his bank accounts, shut down his website, and so on.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:06 am

Welcome to Eater..... Laughing

Your first task should be to convince your Brother that it is a scam so he does not send them any more money.

Please do not have any more conversations with the scammer, as they have Real Life Information.

Read the stickies get yourself an anonymous email addy and have some fun.

Apply for a Mentor, they can be invaluable.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:14 am

Welcome Jeanie,
I'm sorry we meet under these circumstances.

In case you need the link to our sister site here it is:
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/index.php

Over there are members with lots of experience with cases like your brother's. At his moment, you don't want to alienate your brother with too violent accusations; questions are enough. You need his co-operation so he is willing to tell you more about the person he is corresponding with. You will have to wait until you can show him lots of evidence. That is what ScamWarners are qualified to do: find evidence - with your help.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 9

vonpaso xlura wrote:

It might be useful to post the original email from the scammer, along with his current email address (sometimes their addresses are shut down and they switch to new ones), in surplus, along with a note that this mugu is scamming your brother. We can tarpit him, zank his bank accounts, shut down his website, and so on.

i actually went to the police about it but they sais there is nothing they can do...my brother is willingly sending money to these people in the beleif he will be getting a large cash settlement!!..also there is an element of a "romantic" scam going on to...ive went into his email and blocked the addresses,but im not sure if that is enough to stop them..i know he is sending money via western union every day to them...and get this.....he has given them his bank account details!!!!....i mean who could be this stupid!!!......

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 9

Jeannette wrote:

Welcome Jeanie,
I'm sorry we meet under these circumstances.

In case you need the link to our sister site here it is:
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/index.php

Over there are members with lots of experience with cases like your brother's. At his moment, you don't want to alienate your brother with too violent accusations; questions are enough. You need his co-operation so he is willing to tell you more about the person he is corresponding with. You will have to wait until you can show him lots of evidence. That is what ScamWarners are qualified to do: find evidence - with your help.

thankyou kindly for your help

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 9

Vampiremerchant wrote:

Welcome to Eater..... Laughing

Your first task should be to convince your Brother that it is a scam so he does not send them any more money.

Please do not have any more conversations with the scammer, as they have Real Life Information.

Read the stickies get yourself an anonymous email addy and have some fun.

Apply for a Mentor, they can be invaluable.

whats a mentor ? how can they help me?

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 9

vonpaso xlura wrote:

It might be useful to post the original email from the scammer, along with his current email address (sometimes their addresses are shut down and they switch to new ones), in surplus, along with a note that this mugu is scamming your brother. We can tarpit him, zank his bank accounts, shut down his website, and so on.

what do you mean by zank his bank account and tarpit him?....sounds like fun!

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:37 pm

Hi jeanie.

Don't worry about mentors and don't worry about baiting at the moment.
The most important thing (as already mentioned) is to get your brother off the scam.

I also recommend that you visit our sister site www.scamwarners.com and speak to one of the scam warners or scam advisors there. They are better equipped to deal with this situation as they deal with the victim side of things whereas we deal with scam-baiting.

Master Baiter Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 106

jeanie wrote:

vonpaso xlura wrote:

It might be useful to post the original email from the scammer, along with his current email address (sometimes their addresses are shut down and they switch to new ones), in surplus, along with a note that this mugu is scamming your brother. We can tarpit him, zank his bank accounts, shut down his website, and so on.

i actually went to the police about it but they sais there is nothing they can do...my brother is willingly sending money to these people in the beleif he will be getting a large cash settlement!!..also there is an element of a "romantic" scam going on to...ive went into his email and blocked the addresses,but im not sure if that is enough to stop them..i know he is sending money via western union every day to them...and get this.....he has given them his bank account details!!!!....i mean who could be this stupid!!!......

Tell him to close his account because soon it will be wiped clean. He has learned the hard way

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:50 pm

Get onto Scamwarners ASAP, they have a good idea of how to get a victim out of the spiral dive. This guy isn't baitable from your point of view. Bear in mind that if they know you are aware of them, they will try to sow seeds of doubt and suspicion about you in your brother's mind in order to stop him believing you. Be prepared for this.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 9

Slightlyoutofit wrote:

Hi jeanie.

Don't worry about mentors and don't worry about baiting at the moment.
The most important thing (as already mentioned) is to get your brother off the scam.

I also recommend that you visit our sister site www.scamwarners.com and speak to one of the scam warners or scam advisors there. They are better equipped to deal with this situation as they deal with the victim side of things whereas we deal with scam-baiting.

ive tried to get him off the scam ,but he is so involved in it i dont think he can stop..he is sending money every day to them via western union...he is chasing this money that these people have promised he will be getting,that doesnt even exist..i will check out your scamwarners site though....
thanks for all the help,its greatly appreciated

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 9

sagat wrote:

jeanie wrote:

vonpaso xlura wrote:

It might be useful to post the original email from the scammer, along with his current email address (sometimes their addresses are shut down and they switch to new ones), in surplus, along with a note that this mugu is scamming your brother. We can tarpit him, zank his bank accounts, shut down his website, and so on.

i actually went to the police about it but they sais there is nothing they can do...my brother is willingly sending money to these people in the beleif he will be getting a large cash settlement!!..also there is an element of a "romantic" scam going on to...ive went into his email and blocked the addresses,but im not sure if that is enough to stop them..i know he is sending money via western union every day to them...and get this.....he has given them his bank account details!!!!....i mean who could be this stupid!!!......

Tell him to close his account because soon it will be wiped clean. He has learned the hard way

i think its too late,i read one email where he authorised them to withdraw £10,000 from his account!!! and i mean can you beleiev this!! ..im sure he has lost his marbles!!

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:24 pm

Scamwarners, Right now. Go. http://www.scamwarners.com/

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:32 pm

Now that there is a large transaction imminent, i strongly recommend you report back to the Law Enforcement as swiftly as possible, this can be a big turning point.

I'm very sorry to hear about your brothers Prediciment, he's dealing with some of the worlds most Disgusting human beings.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 9

Olly3008 wrote:

Now that there is a large transaction imminent, i strongly recommend you report back to the Law Enforcement as swiftly as possible, this can be a big turning point.

I'm very sorry to hear about your brothers Prediciment, he's dealing with some of the worlds most Disgusting human beings.

what do you mean by this could be a big turning point?....i actualy went to my local police station but they didnt think there was anything they could do....
ive blocked their email addresses from my brothers computer,im just wondering if this will be enough to stop them,or do you think they will have other ways of contacting him?..i also hid his mobile phone as i know they were phoning him...so i feel like i have cut them off at source,but im not sure if that is enough to get rid of them....i imagine they will be determined...thanks for all your help and advice..i am very grateful

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:59 am

I agree with Nailgunner. Go to Scamwarners. Try the police again, there is a crime being committed, and they have an obligation to fill out a report of some sort (at least in Canada, I'm not sure how it works anywhere else), and see if you can talk to someone at the bank about this. If it's a bank transfer it should be traceable. I would advise getting more family members involved to talk to your brother. It could cause problems in the immediate future, but someone needs to talk him down from what he's doing. I know it looks like an obvious scam, but to him, it's not and he's VERY heavily emotionally invested in this. He NEEDS to hear from more than one person he trusts that he's getting screwed.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:40 am

^^^ Chris, I really think this is a case for ScamWarners to assess the situation. If the victim feels that his relatives "are ganging up on him" he might just stop talking to them or start lying about his contacts with the scammer. We are not qualified to give advice here.

I am sorry if I sound harsh, I don't mean to, I am just deeply worried, and as a junior adviser over at ScamWarners I am aware of how carefully you have to tread in a situation like this.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 26 Sep 2008 Posts: 689

Take the computer off him?

Ask him to come read some of the stuff on this site, see if the penny drops then. Sadly if he's too far into it he may be blind to what's going on and deny it's hasppening to him.

If you can, block his access to large amounts of money.

Go to the Western Union shop with him and tell the staff there. They are oblidged to act by their own rules.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:01 am

I will repeat what I've already said.

Go to www.scamwarners.com.

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