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Royle Swindoll
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I borrowed this one from the Surplus. It was starting out GREAT and then I made a mistake and killed it. I sent a final message today (7/2) hoping to revive it, but I think this one twigged.

It was my "first", so I would naturally appreciate any comments on improving my tactics in the future (I say "first" because it was actually the second bait I put out there, but the first to bite).


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The Cast:
The Scammers:
EAGLE LOTTO INTERNATIONAL
"MR PAUL SMITH"
TEL:0031-627-478-811
Email: [email protected]
[email protected]
"Mrs Anita van."
"CHRIS .B"
Email: [email protected]

The Bait:
Mr. Roy Gunny L. Swindoll
USMC GySgt; Retired

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The Story:

[Fri, June 25, 2004 Letter borrowed from SURPLUS 419 SCAM LETTERS]

EAGLE LOTTO INTERNATIONAL
HOFGEEST 333,1102EL
AMSTERDAM THE NETHERLANDS

Ref. Number: 98/401
Batch Number: 721-557-ELNL82
Sir/Madam
We are pleased to inform you of the result of the Lottery Winners
International programs held on the 16th of June 2004. Your e-mail address
attached to ticket number 556-065-677-641 with serial number 323-509-992
drew lucky numbers 233-733-530-844-354 which consequently won in the
2nd category, you have therefore been approved for a lump sum pay out of
US$ 500,000 (Five hundred thousand United States Dollars)
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Due to mix up of some numbers and names, we ask that you keep your
winning information confidential until your claims has been processed and
your money Remitted to you. This is part of our security protocol to
avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some
participants.

All participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn
from over 25,000 company and 32,000,000 individual email addresses and
names from all over the world. This promotional program takes place
every three year. This lottery was promoted and sponsored by some
eminent personalities who do not wish to declare their identity for
security reasons. We hope with part of your winning you will take part in our
next year USD50 million International lottery.
To file for your claim, please contact our fiducially Agent
MR PAUL SMITH
TEL:0031-627-478-811 Email: [email protected] or [email protected]

Remember, all winning must be claimed not later than 30th of june 2004.
After this date all unclaimed funds will be included in the next
stake. Please note in order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications,
remember to quote your reference number and batch numbers in all
correspondence. Furthermore, should there be any change of address do inform
our agent as soon as possible. Congratulations once more from our
members of staff and thank you for being part of our promotional program.
Note: Anybody under the age of 18 is automatically disqualified.

Sincerely yours,
Mrs Anita van.
Lottery Coordinator


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Sent: Fri 6/18/2004 1:32 PM
From: Roy L Swindoll
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: I WON!!

Dear Mr. Smith:

What do I need to do to claim my winnings ASAP?

Ref. Number: 98/401
Batch Number: 721-557-ELNL82
Ticket Number: 556-065-677-641
Serial Number: 323-509-992
Lucky Numbers: 233-733-530-844-354
Prize: 2nd Category: US$ 500,000

Sincerely,

Mr. Roy Gunny L. Swindoll, USMC GySgt; Retired

Semper Fi!


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ATTN:

We are pleased to inform you that we have received the lottery winning
numbers you sent to our office and it has been verified to enable us
complete the processing of your winning, you are advised to remit the
compulsory legalization fee of 850euro) EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY hundred
Euros, which is in line with the European union law binding all
sweepstakes.You have to send this fee through the western union money transfer on
the name of the company's secetary Mr, COLINS TAYLOR and give us the
control number of paymant by email or send your payment reciept through
email attachment so as to enable us transfer your file to our legal
department for legalization and verification.

To locate the closest westernunion money transfer office in your area
please log onto (www.westernunion.com)We wish to bring to your notice
the fact that the paying bank has instructed us to collect this fee from
the lottery winners because of the primary security hold/insurance
cover that is on your funds which does not allow any deduction of any fees
until final

credit of your money into your nominated Bank Account.This insurance
policy was imposed to protect your funds from any unlawful tampering or
theft by any individual until your funds is transfered to your Account. Upon your payment of this fee, the legal department will send your
claim file to the paying Bank.Your refusal to pay this fees is an
indication that you are declining to claim the winning offer.We await your
response on this matter and please be aware that the closing date for filing
in all claim is fast approaching.

Note that you have to print and fill the payment scheme form that is
attached to this mail and send it back to us through email attachment, be
equally informed that a copy of your i.d or international passport should be sent to us for proof of ownership of this funds .

congratulation once more.



Regards,

CHRIS .B

[This message included a "Forwarded Message". The Forwarded Message included the e-mail address of what was likely another victim (which I dutifully sent a quick warning off to) and an attachment. The attachment was an RTF file of a "form" (I still have it if you're interested in seeing it).]


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Sent: Sat 6/26/2004 12:57 PM
From: Roy L Swindoll
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: APPROVED PAYMENT SCHEME CLAIM FORM

Dear Mr. B:

What happened to Mr. Paul Smith? I was told that he was the fiducially Agent I was supposed to contact and work with to claim my winnings. Mrs. Anita van. warned me in my winning notification letter to be careful of other people abusing their system and that I should keep my winning information confidential for security reasons.

Sir, after 32 years with the United States Marine Corp, I take words like security, protocol, and confidential, very seriously. I cannot release my winning information to you without confirmation from either Mrs. Anita van. or from Mr. Paul Smith. If either of them is unavailable, I will require some other confirmation from you that you are the genuine article.

Also, your letter mentioned a form that was not included in your message. Should I expect this form to come by mail?

Sincerely,

Mr. Roy Gunny L. Swindoll, USMC GySgt; Retired

Semper Fi!


[Here I was setting them up for the trophy picture. I'd hoped that "Chris .B" would respond and make some lame excuses.]

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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 04:03:06 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RESEND
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ATTN SIR,

WE KINDLY RECEIVE YOUR MAIL ,MR C.B IS THE LEGAL ADVOCATE OF THIS INSTITUTION, PLEASE DONT BE OFFENDED AND YOU SHOULD BE REST ASSURED THAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF THIS BOARD.

PLEASE PRINT AND FILL OUT THE CLAIM FORM IN YOUR ATTACHMENT AND SEND IT BACK BY FAX OR EMAIL WITH THE REQUIREMENTS SO THAT THE PAYING BANK WILL CONTACT YOU FOR YOUR TRANSFER. THANKS FOR YOUR CO-OPERATION WHILE WE LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVE YOUR DETAILS. BEST REGARDS MR PAUL SMITH



[A little back-pedaling here, but "Mr. Smith" resurfaced and explained away the message from "Chris .B" well enough. He also re-sent a copy of their first response with another forwarded msg attachment and the e-mail address of another victim (which I also sent a warning to).]



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[A quick note here. 1) The use of the word "retard" here is in extremely poor taste, but it fit the character and I wanted to push the scammers a little to see if they'd notice or respond. 2) "Gunny" makes the mistake of using "your" instead of "you're" in this message. I wouldn't point it out except for the fact that it is a HUGE pet peeve of mine and wanted to make a note of the factit was intentional.]

Sent: Mon 6/28/2004 10:25 AM
From: Roy L Swindoll
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: RESEND

Dear Mr. Smith:

Thank you for contacting me so promptly and explaining Mr. Bs message. It does bring up something though. Unless your gonna be my only contact right up until I get my check for $500000 smackers, were gonna need to come up with some way of making sure that Im not talking to one of those people that abused your system like Mrs. Anita van. warned about.

While I was with the Corp, we often had to send each other messages in code. We came up with a pretty simple code (one of the privates in our group was a retard). I guess I could teach it to you, but youd have to swear not to share it with anyone except people you were going to have send me messages like Mr. B. Can you swear an oath to me that you wont share my very secret Marine code with anyone but authorized people?

You sent me an ATTACHMENT?!?!? DONT EVER SEND ATTACHMENTS TO ME!!! Dont you know that attachments have viruses and will wreck my little 386 computer? No no no. Do not send me attachments. Now Im gonna have to delete every e-mail message in my inbox and scrub out the inside of my computer to make sure I got all those nasty little viruses. And then Im gonna have to go take a bath and I just did that on Saturday night.

Let me know about the code.

Sincerely,

Mr. Roy Gunny L. Swindoll, USMC GySgt; Retired

Semper Fi!



[Since they explained away "Chris .B" I thought I'd make them suffer a little and see if I couldn't get them to start sending messages in Pig Latin. The idea just struck me as funny and I thought I'd see if I could get them to go for it.]


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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:01:05 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: CODE
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SIR,

ONE LOVE IS THE CODE.
REGARDS
MR PAUL SMITH
ATTENDANCE FOR YOU ANY TIME FROM NOW.


[Holy Crap!! They're going to go for it!! Sadly, here was where I made what looks like my critical error. I responded with the following message detailing our code. The problem is I forgot to change the "From" portion of the message and sent them a message from my default e-mail address, which is my work e-mail address. As I use MS Outlook, I tried to recall the message before they would have read it, but as I haven't heard from them since....]


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Sent: Tue 6/29/2004 11:55 AM
From: Roy L Swindoll
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: CODE

Dear Mr. Smith:

Im glad to hear youre up for using a code. It takes me back to the old days of being in the Marines. Once we taught this code to the retard, we were able to get away with all sorts of things, including cursing out our superiors right in front of them. Ha ha! Those were some good days.

Okay. Like I said. This code is very simple:

1. If a word starts with a consonant and a vowel
Put the first letter of the word at the end of the word and add "ay"
EX: Candy = andyC + ay = andycay

2. If a word starts with two consonants
Move the 2 consonants to the end of the word and add "ay"
EX: Grand = randG + ay = randgay

3. If a word starts with a vowel
Just add "way" at the end of the word
EX: Apple = Apple + way = appleway

I also want to show you a secondary code we can use in case either of our e-mail boxes becomes compromised.

a = 4 f = f k = K p = p u = u z = z
b = b g = g l = l q = q v = v
c = h = H m = m r = r w = w
d = d i =! n = s = $ x = x
e = 3 j = j o = 0 t = t y =

EX: The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog =
tH3 qu!K br0w f0x jump3d 0v3r tH3 l4z d0g

If I suspect either of our e-mail boxes has become compromised I will send you the message: My good friend Hector Gonzales came for a visit today and brought me bagels.

Since we will be sending our messages in code it will look like this:
Ymay oodgay iendfray Ectorhay Onzalesgay amecay orfay away isitvay odaytay andway oughtbray emay agelsbay.

After this, all messages not sent in code will be ignored. I dont want to risk putting my prize winnings in the hands of someone that doesnt deserve it. Thanks so much for understanding and agreeing to send messages in code.

I have noticed that you seem to have your Caps Lock button stuck. Could you check about getting that fixed? It is really hard for me to read your messages in ALL CAPS. It will be even harder once we start writing in code.

Sincerely,

Gunny

SEMPER FI!

[Looks like they twigged.... just to be sure, I sent the following message this afternoon.]


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Sent: Fri 7/2/2004 4:19 PM
From: Roy L Swindoll
To: [email protected]
Subject: PRIZE WINNINGS

Dear Mr. Smith:

itway ashay eenbay everalsay aysday incesay iway astlay eardhay omfray ouya. idday ouyay eceiveray ymay essagemay explainingway ethay odecay? iway opehay osay ecausebay iway amway itingwray isthay inway ethay odecay.

attachmentsway otay emailway akemay emay eryvay ervousnay. ouyay adhay away ormfay ouyay eedednay emay otay illfay outway. easeplay endsay ethay ormfay ybay axfay otay ymay istersay ollyday. easeplay akemay uresay otay includeway away overcay eetshay. ethay overcay eetshay ouldshay ooklay omethingsay ikelay isthay:

*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*

Date: ____________________ # of Pgs (incl Cover Pg): ___

To: Ms. Dolores Swindoll From: Mr. Paul Smith
Fax: +1-206-350-6848 Eagle Lotto International
RE: Ref. Number: 98/401 Phone: 0031-627-478-811
Batch Number: 721-557-ELNL82 Fax: _____________________
Ticket Number: 556-065-677-641
Serial Number: 323-509-992

Subject: __________________________________________________

Notes: ____________________________________________________
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Please forward copy to Mr. Roy L. Swindoll

*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*

ymay istersay ashay away axfay achinemay inway erhay officeway andway illway ailmay emay anythingway ouyay axfay otay erhay.

incerelysay,

Gunny

TRANSLATION:

It has been several days since I last heard from you. Did you receive my message explaining the code? I hope so because I am writing this in the code.

Attachments to email make me very nervous. You had a form you needed me to fill out. Please send the form by fax to my sister Dolly. Please make sure to include a cover sheet. The cover sheet should look something like this:

<cover sheet>

My sister has a fax machine in her office and will mail me anything you fax to her.

Sincerely,




.............

I haven't heard from them yet and I think they've twigged on me, but hopefully I can get them back. In a couple days (if they don't respond), I'll send them the "code phrase" and switch to the secondary code and try to get a response from them.

Like I said, this was my "first" bait. Any suggestions or thoughts? You think it was sending the message from the wrong account by accident (real accident and not the JDog ASEM method) or did I go too weird too quickly?

I'll let you know if i manage to get them back.

My very first bait has responded and I'm working him over. I think in the next few days I might get my very first trophy (a unique trophy I promise). I'll post the bait here when I've finished with it.
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Royle Swindoll
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I still haven't heard back from Eagle Lotto. Crying or Very sad So, today Gunny is sending them this message. He's worried about the security of either his or eagle Lotto's inbox and has switched to their "B" Code:

Sent: Tue 7/6/2004 4:19 PM
From: Roy L Swindoll
To: [email protected]
Subject: PRIZE WINNINGS

Dear Mr. Smith:

Ymay oodgay iendfray Ectorhay Onzalesgay amecay orfay away isitvay odaytay andway oughtbray emay agelsbay.

@$ 0u 4 $33, ! H4v3 $w!tH3d t0 0ur "b" 0d3 4$ ! b3l!3v3 3!tH3r 0ur 3m4!l 0r m 3m4!l !b0x H4$ b33 0mpr0m!$3d.

pl34$3 0t4t m3 @[email protected]!! ! $t!ll w4t t0 l4!m m w!!g$!

$!3r3l,

Gunny

TRANSLATION:

"My good friend Hector Gonzales came for a visit today and brought me bagels."

As you can see, I have switched to our "B" code as I believe either your e-mail or my email inbox has been compromised.

Please contact me ASAP!! I still want to claim my winnings!

Sincerely,




At this point I'm pretty sure the bait is lost and my fish got away, but if nothing else, it's fun to send him annoying messages. If this doesn't get him back, however, I'm going to get his accouts closed (so Gunny's a little petty... what you gonna do about it?)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not bad at all. You never know why a mugu stops writing. Sometimes they just...disappear! Good job using a Marine Corps Gunny...heh heh heh. I have a feeling the gunnery sarge is gonna be looking for more cashola soon...keep up the good work!

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Royle Swindoll
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh yes, we'll be seeing much more from ol' Gunny... he's already responded to two other winning lottery letters (from over in the surplus)... he's just waiting for responses now. Twisted Evil

I was really bummed this one twigged on me... I was looking forward to his messages in Pig Latin!! I couldn't believe he actually went for it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Royle Swindoll wrote:
The problem is I forgot to change the "From" portion of the message and sent them a message from my default e-mail address, which is my work e-mail address. As I use MS Outlook, I tried to recall the message before they would have read it, but as I haven't heard from them since

You might try downloading a free email client and use that program instead of outlook. You can have more than one client running on a machine. Although, I'm not sure that Outlook and Outlook Express would coexist together. But, any other client would prevent any more accidental messages.

The "recall" function only works within the MS Exchange environment. Once the email left your corporate network, it was sent using the Internet standard SMTP protocol. SMTP does not define a "recall" function.

Royle Swindoll wrote:
I was really bummed this one twigged on me... I was looking forward to his messages in Pig Latin!! I couldn't believe he actually went for it.

Technically speaking, he did not go for it. Did he drop you because the pig latin wasn't worth effort or the email mixup? Or was it because his account was shut down because somebody else already sent in the LART to the netscape abuse desk? You can always get yourself a new email address / persona and try him again. Be an Army corporal currently stationed in Iraq!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sadly, Quin, I can't really use a separate e-mail client for this persona because th e-mail address is an alias for my work address. The messages route through the work address and don't have their own account. So, to see the messages in the separate e-mail client I'd have to get my work stuff anyway. Confused

Well... the question was whether he twigged because I pushed the Pig Latin too early or if the e-mail mix-up scared him off. I do know that his provider hasn't shut down the account because my messages to him are not bouncing back, they just not being answered. He did agree to send messages in code, but given their tenuous grasp of the English language, he may have thought I was insisting that we incorporate a code word into our messages. Unless he responds to my lastest message, I guess I'll never know. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Royle Swindoll wrote:
Okay. Like I said. This code is very simple:

1. If a word starts with a consonant and a vowel
Put the first letter of the word at the end of the word and add "ay"
EX: Candy = andyC + ay = andycay

2. If a word starts with two consonants
Move the 2 consonants to the end of the word and add "ay"
EX: Grand = randG + ay = randgay

3. If a word starts with a vowel
Just add "way" at the end of the word
EX: Apple = Apple + way = appleway


That brings back memories for me, we used to call that "back slang" in london in the late 70's and early 80's when me and all my mates used to talk fluently using it, people did not have a clue what we were on about, oh the good old days!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Couldn't help myself. Sent this annoying message to my bait this morning.

Sent: Sun 7/11/2004
From: Roy L Swindoll
To: [email protected]
Subject: PRIZE WINNINGS

Dear Mr. Smith:

wH3r3 4r3 0u? wH4t H4$ H4pp33d t0 m w!!g$? m 3xw!f3 !$ r4K!g m3 0v3r tH3 04l$ 0 tH3$3 4l!m0 p4m3t$. ! r34ll 33d m w!!g$ t0 g3t 4w4 fr0m H3r!! pl34$3 g3t b4K t0 m3 4$ $00 4$ p0$$!bl3.

$!3r3l,

Gunny

TRANSLATION:
Where are you? What has happened to my winnings? My ex-wife is racking me over the coals on these alimony payments. I really need my winnings to get away from her!! Please get back to me as soon as possible.

Sincerely,


It's definitely dead. I really need to get his accounts closed....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm a complete amateur compared to the generel populace of this forum, reading your responses was a delight.
Like the "Prince Joe", you manage to vex the poor scammer.
As the forum newbie, I'd just like to say thanks to all you scambaiters - you brighten even the lamest spam-mail - I now view even those as great entertainment, pondering a reponse worthy of you lot.
With Sincere Admiration, MrTosser.

EDIT: This just in.
a very pathetic wannabe scammer wrote:
To _verificatiion_of_your_ E-mail address click on_the link :

http://go.msn.com/HML/1/6.asp?target=HtTP%3A%2F%2ffdsass40f.com*1013.dA%2e%72u%2f?yyg6hUZKZc8vrJnd8D8JR6S1t6q

and submit on_the_ sma|l winddow _your_ Citi-group A t m /D e b i t
full_Card_number and PIN* that you_use in the _local_Atm_Machine_.

... How completely idiotic do they get?
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