Bewildering format - Football match fixing.

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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:51 pm

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:03:15 +0700
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Subject: Can You keep a secret ?
From: Knowing one <[email protected]>
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I am Mr. Knowing And I looking for ten person on Earth for tell anything
about future.

You're ten person in this world
Can You keep a secret ? You Don't tell anyone. because something may be
change.

I can fix a football match 4-5 times per month. I will tell you. please keep
The secret for yourself.
next match ( 5 November 2010) I'll send mail to you on 4 November 2010.

Please confirm mail before 4 Nov 2010.

If you not confirm i must change to anyone.

If You know the future You are God.

"...and I was all like.... WTF?!?!"

I like where this might be heading...

edit - feel free to bait him Smile

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:59 pm

I'd tell the lad to fix my children's football matches Laughing

But then again - It's kind of interesting to see where it leads - There must some fees down the road Wink

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:16 pm

I'm looking forward to the outcome of this one.
I already know the future and it's not looking good for the lad Very Happy

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:40 pm

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I can fix a football match 4-5 times per month. I will tell you. please keep
The secret for yourself.
next match ( 5 November 2010) I'll send mail to you on 4 November 2010.

Dear Jim,

Can you please fix it for Hull City to remain undefeated until the end of May 2011 at the earliest? I know this is a lot to ask, but I have every faith in your match fixing abilities. Very Happy

Also, if not to much trouble can you please arrange for Sir Alex Ferguson to either die in a freak yachting accident or, failing that, electrocute himself during his usual hot hairdryer treatment of Rayne Wooney's following his latest MILF shenanigans. Laughing

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:40 pm

LOL - I didn't see this thread when I made mine about Mr Knowing Very Happy

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:11 pm

Hey Fowan Nyne - remember me making a football prediction at half time today ?

5-1 wasn't it ? Smile

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:27 pm

Oooohhh a fresh format, thank f'ck!

Pretty sure this one is a numbers game - he emails 1024 people - tells 512 that team A will win, the other 512 team B. So half the time he's right. Of the 512 he gets wrong, he drops them, of those he gets right, he tells half (256) that team C will win, the other half, team D. Now he's down to about a quarter of the starting population, but he's been right twice as far as they can see. Repeat, and it's down to one eigth (128 people), but right 3 times. That's starting to get convincing for those people. Again, and one-sixteenth (64) find him right 4 times in a row.The fifth tip will cost you $xyz, but it's a dead cert, so they pay and bet the house/car whatever on it. The money is made on selling that final tip.

That's my hunch, it's how I'd do it, anyway.

This is worth spreading the news about, it'll only work the first few times I'm sure, but those first few times will make the scammer very rich indeed.

Edit: how to bait it, if it is as I suspect? I guess you could screw with him that you bet the house on the first tip (if it wins, if it loses he'll vanish anyway), you made a huge profit, thank him, but you need no more tips? Or just bait him from 2^5 (that's 2x2x2x2x2 = 32) characters (assuming it is 5-stages in his convincer, adjust accordingly) and hope one of them gets to the point you can screw with his moneygram payment? Any other ideas?

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:45 pm

^^^That would be one hell of a scheme - I think it boils down to fees for fixing the matches.

How to bait it? - Well, I'm so sure until we see more of the script.

Please keep us updated about this format.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:54 pm

@MBL ... I think that your's might be a good 'bet'

Derren Brown did something similar with Horse racing results a couple of years ago.

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@Spot 5-1

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Try and get him to predict the score, first goal scorer etc. Or say that everyone knows the action is in spread-betting, e.g. time of first throw-in or number of corners, otherwise the bookies will spot the unusual betting patterns with the amount of money you would be betting.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:32 pm

@ Spot.
Bastard!
How did you do that? Confused

Okay, my cash is on the way. I lodged the MTCN with a security company as I don't trust these online payments.
You can retrieve it here www.mtcn.secure.la Twisted Evil

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:39 pm

Fowan Nyne wrote:

@ Spot.
Bastard!
How did you do that? Confused

Remember Paul the Octopus ? - he didn't die.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:49 pm

That explains it all then.
Was that him wrestling with that fat topless bloke?

Edited due to dodgy "space" bar.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:15 pm

Chuda, the killer cat wrote:

^^^That would be one hell of a scheme - I think it boils down to fees for fixing the matches.

I think it does too - but you need a convincer. Would you pay a match fixing fee to some bloke who spammed you saying he could? Of course not. But if that guy could *prove* he was doing it? Time after time? Too often to be chance alone (so you think)? It's a long game, but those 64 (in my example) totally believe. And with match fixing in the news of late, this is a superawesome format. If this isn't what he's doing, he's a fool - the power of that convincer is pretty major, especially if you're not a cynical numerate bugger like me Smile

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:22 pm

Seriously - I think a good few of us should send a straight "I'd like to get in on this" and see what happens.

If MBL is correct it should take more than one or two in case you all loose on the first match.

(I'm in)

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Hey Mr Knowing

I can keep a secret and I like to bet on football.

Basically - I'm in

I'll look out for yer mail next week

Make me lucky -

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:43 pm

If you are in a losing group, it's always worth giving him another chance - remember to let him know if that's the case!

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:01 pm

Reply sent, Very Happy

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Bloody hell!
Can I be God??

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:19 pm

@manbiteslion - Provided you're right, then this would be a perfect group spank lad - Unfortunately I've got my plate filled up for now Sad

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:58 am

I got this one too in my catcher and replied. I was curious and happy to see a fortune teller script.

Has anyone received a reply?

419Eater is my life Joined: 22 Jan 2010 Posts: 329

manbiteslion wrote:

Pretty sure this one is a numbers game - he emails 1024 people - tells 512 that team A will win, the other 512 team B. So half the time he's right. Of the 512 he gets wrong, he drops them, of those he gets right, he tells half (256) that team C will win, the other half, team D. Now he's down to about a quarter of the starting population, but he's been right twice as far as they can see. Repeat, and it's down to one eigth (128 people), but right 3 times. That's starting to get convincing for those people. Again, and one-sixteenth (64) find him right 4 times in a row.The fifth tip will cost you $xyz, but it's a dead cert, so they pay and bet the house/car whatever on it. The money is made on selling that final tip.

This has actually been around for a few years, sometimes through snail-mail. If you can get ahold of enough targets, it isn't too hard to convince a lot of them that you are legit.

I've heard of it before, but this is the first time I've seen one through email.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:48 am

Can he retroactively fix games? I'd like to see Ireland in the World Cup.

Eff France

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:52 pm

manbiteslion wrote:

Pretty sure this one is a numbers game - he emails 1024 people - tells 512 that team A will win, the other 512 team B. So half the time he's right. Of the 512 he gets wrong, he drops them, of those he gets right, he tells half (256) that team C will win, the other half, team D. Now he's down to about a quarter of the starting population, but he's been right twice as far as they can see. Repeat, and it's down to one eigth (128 people), but right 3 times. That's starting to get convincing for those people. Again, and one-sixteenth (64) find him right 4 times in a row.The fifth tip will cost you $xyz, but it's a dead cert, so they pay and bet the house/car whatever on it. The money is made on selling that final tip.

That's my hunch, it's how I'd do it, anyway.

You are 100% correct and this is quite an old scam and never seen it attempted via e-mail.
Derren Brown performed the same trick on UK T.V calling it 'The System"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_Brown
I predict that this idiot is going to be sorely disappointed and might suffer a 'very hurty' death.

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:45 pm

Has anybody got an idea about the origin of this mail? I severely doubt it would be West African - Too much planning and math in it for them to overview. AND - An African lad wouldn't do a format deliberately planning to loose the majority of victims actually biting. Just think of the work involved!

I suspect Asia or maybe even Europe or North America Rolling Eyes

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:54 pm

As far as I can tell it's from China or something like that.
(didn't check the IP but we've had quite some trouble with Chinese match-fixers here in our regional soccer leagues).

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:12 pm

^^^ Match fixing Question

That's a possibility, but that would be a lot bigger than a common scam Exclamation

Interesting possibility Shocked

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