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 I am new here - and feel sooo sorry for ahmed sadiq... help.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

http://419eater.com/html/ahmed_sadiq.htm

I read this today, and feel so sorry for this guy (yes I am serious!).

He was merely asking for money - not promising anything in return...

' Anything you can offer me will be highly appreciated I look forward to hearing from you soon. '

He is a beggar - not a scammer. Shame... Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello and welcome to Eater!

This guy was certainly a scammer.

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Dear Mr. Sadiq,

1. There is no Weister City University in London.

2. You are located in Nigeria. My gut feeling is that you are a scammer.

3. Goodbye.

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His IP traced to Nigeria so yes he wasn't in London.

There is no such university

EDIT: You don't have to claim to give anything to the recipient to be a scammer. This was a donation scam. Like those Haiti relief scams.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Considering the fact that this bait was submitted somewhere in 2005 I really don't see the relevance of this topic Cool but hey it could just be me - it's 4 AM here so I'm probably not thinking straight anymore Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I am actually the prince of Nigeria. I know Mr. Sadiq very well, he lives just down the road. It is true that he has fallen on hard times. He just hasn't been the same since his best goat left him. If you wanna give him some cash, just western onion it to me. I'll make sure he gets it. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The same "Prince" that was caught under Agogo Rd bridge with the goat? I heard the area boys stole his Westie money.....

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

No it was not me. I was caught under a different bridge.

And it wasn't the "area boys" it was that damn Gomer.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

We do NOT bait beggars. Charity scammers , such as those that leech off natural disasters, are a different matter.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

pippa81 wrote:


He is a beggar - not a scammer. Shame... Sad



I don't see how you can make that statement.

The lad sends a typical scam email and halfway down the page, gets found out and decides to own up that he's been lying all along. Normally, it's very hard to get a lad to admit that he's a thief, but this one actually volunteers the information!! It's probably one of the most open and shut cases of a scammer revealing himself that there is!!

I'm guessing you think it's OK because he owned up and that he's obviously some poor innocent boy living hand to mouth in a third world country.

We have a word for people that believe the above. We call them "Victims".

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for the discussion. I am sorry it may not seem relevant to some, but I only found this site now, and I am interested in your opinions on this matter.

I dont think it is ok just because he owned up to lying.

We get people who lie here, and say that their car broke down, and they need money for petrol, or to get back to their family. Most likely they will just use the money for alcohol.

I would still not condemn them for it though. It's not ok to lie, but it's not the worst offence that a desperate individual can do.

Someone who has no means of job opportunities gets the chance to better himself, and takes it.

Maybe I have seen too much poverty. I live in South Africa. A privileged life, but I see people around me with addictions that are NOT good, but it's all they have. There are no jobs, it's not about them not getting off their buts.

To make up an elaborate story and beg for money seems ok to me.

Here we have street kids that are sent to beg, and their parents just take the money for booze. If people give them clothing, the parents sell it. Its the same thing - misrepresentation.

I dunno... I am happy to have the conversation. I am interested in learning and hearing opinions. I am not here to argue or justify his actions, nor condemn yours.

p.s. Where are the newer scams - same page - I scrolled down, and still got a 2006 one...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It may be ok to beg but it is definetly not ok to steal money off a vulnerable individual by promising something that you know you will never deliver. Just because the majority of victims are from developed countries doesn't justify theft.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

conga22 wrote:
It may be ok to beg but it is definetly not ok to steal money off a vulnerable individual by promising something that you know you will never deliver. Just because the majority of victims are from developed countries doesn't justify theft.


I agree wholeheartedly - that is why I felt bad for this individual, as he promised nothing in his initial email.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome pippa81.... Laughing


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p.s. Where are the newer scams


Try this thread

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=18

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@pippa81 I urge you t read the stories of the lives destroyed by these scumbags. It is not true that they needed the money to live, if so they would buy rice instead of internet cafe time, right? I don't consider anyone on the Internet a beggar, but that is just me.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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To make up an elaborate story and beg for money seems ok to me.

I don't agree. I would actually have more respect for someone who says "I'm poor, please give me some money so that I can eat tonight", than for someone who lies to try to gain sympathy from victims.
The first one is a beggar, the latter is a scammer.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Lets be very clear..this guy ain't poor..He'll be making an above average living at duping internet stoopids.

To hell with him.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Pippa,

The scammer you are referring to was called out as multiple times as a liar in the beginning. He was given the opportunity to walk away when it was clear that the baiter was not buying his lies. Instead, he told more lies, and even when he "confessed" he continued to pretend he wanted money for a religious pilgrimage--when the truth is, the furthest this scammer intended to travel was Western Union.

If you read through the forum you will find that true beggars, who are honest (or at least appear to be honest) and simply ask for money without promising anything in return, are hands-off here. His own actions led to that bait.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mjwoody wrote:
I am actually the prince of Nigeria. I know Mr. Sadiq very well, he lives just down the road. It is true that he has fallen on hard times. He just hasn't been the same since his best goat left him. If you wanna give him some cash, just western onion it to me. I'll make sure he gets it. Wink


Hey! wait a second... I'M the Prince of Nigeria.... when that western onion payment comes in...I'll split it 60 / 30 with 10 going to fees of course. Wink
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Oh no, please don't let this be one of those "Kumbaya" hug a lad affairs.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey folks, ease up a bit on the OP. If you have nothing relevant to add to this thread then keep off. This is not a "suggestion".

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I can absolutely understand why new contributors or even enthusiasts of scambaiting get this feeling "Is it right to do this? Maybe he is really just a poor bloke and his greatest dream is the trip to Mecca?"
Well, what has disqualified him from any trust is his lying about his background and location. From there, to everyone who has spent a little more time with the matters of 419 and how advance fee fraud over emails is done, it is pretty obvious he is only a dirty 419er.
I am sure you will think much different about him in weeks at most - provided you continue to read and read abotu scams, about their victims and about the really high ethics we on Eater have about baiting.
Pity with the scammers is human before knowing more about scams and who does them. You will be fine, I have asked that myself. Interestingly, it was the Ahmed Sadiq bait that won me over to read more on Eater. And yes, the newer baits are all the big threads on this forum! Only some long time classics have been put to the Eater site hoempage as far as I can see. it´s simply too much good stuff happening.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I wonder how many people (probably hundreds) have fallen for this one.
Do you really think that you are the only one he is emailing pippa81 ?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

sharky, he's not emailing her, pippa simply found the letter on the site Wink

(i suspect)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi pippa81! Welcome to Eater!
The newer scambaits are found here: http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@pippa81
Just remember the 419 motto: "We scare, because we care!" Wink

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