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cliffordgoodman
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I work with alot of people from Africa. Eritrea, Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, and Sudan specifically. I've asked them all about 419 in their country and what they know about it. They all (17 different people) were aware of what it was just from the term 419. They all also said that it was mafia who ran it. The Nigerian guys were the only ones amongst the group who had the mentality of "africa should 419 the west for all the shit its done to us" kinda thing. These are all new immigrants to Canada, all 16 have been here less than 4 years.
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cliffordgoodman
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

also obviously i never mentioned i was involved in scambaiting or anything. i just played it off like 'i always get these damn emails, and i've heard the term 419. What do you guys know about this?'
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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"africa should 419 the west for all the shit its done to us"


That's how scammers justify their acts. They believe the West is responsible for their poverty and exploitation (which is partly correct for some cases). They also think that all Western folks are extremely rich and would not be hurt by getting ripped off a "few" bucks.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Did anyone bring up racial profiling?

"you get a scam and start asking us, huh?"

Maybe thats just an American thing

bobdemol wrote:
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"africa should 419 the west for all the shit its done to us"


That's how scammers justify their acts. They believe the West is responsible for their poverty and exploitation (which is partly correct for some cases). They also think that all Western folks are extremely rich and would not be hurt by getting ripped off a "few" bucks.


I would blame militias and wannabe dictators before blaming the West. They've had over a century to get their countries back together.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ You're correct about your statement. I didn't blame the West either, I personally have nothing to do what happened a century ago.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Nope, it's totally a cultural thing. It's not a race thing, after all scammers will happily steal from black families by email. It's not a 'The evil West' thing, we see loads of scammers chasing Asian victims. It's not a "payback for slavery" thing, slavery existed in Africa long before the white folks arrived. Those are all just excuses.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

In my opinion, it's like rationalizing stealing old ladies' purses by saying that somebody of the same race stole your granny's purse 60 years ago. It's just a shoddy rationalization of a despicable crime.
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cliffordgoodman
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

nope no one threw the race card at me. i'm a really friendly person in non-bait land, no one would even think of throwing that at me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

steampunk wrote:
Did anyone bring up racial profiling?

"you get a scam and start asking us, huh?"

Maybe thats just an American thing



I think it's an American thing. Laughing

Just because you ask Africans if they know about 419 doesn't mean you are racially profiling. In fact, I bet they were quite happy to talk about it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

clifford, could you go into more detail re: it's "Mafia" who run 419.

Meaning? It's a large organized crime outfit, operated "mafia-style"???
If you could get more info. (just a thought) thanx Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^^^
Whoah, man.
Be careful, this may be very dangerous.
You know, most folks dont usually go to lagos to start asking about mafia Confused

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

manbiteslion wrote:
It's not a "payback for slavery" thing, slavery existed in Africa long before the white folks arrived.


Not many people realise just how much the Africans were involved in the slave trade. Virtually all the Africans shipped to America were originally kidnapped by other Africans.

Either way, I wasn't involved in it, nor was anyone else alive today.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It was an accepted commercial activity then. Africans saw nothing wrong with selling people as slaves.
Europeans saw nothing wrong with buying them.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:05 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ And now Africans see nothing wrong with scamming anybody!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

also obviously i never mentioned i was involved in scambaiting or anything. i just played it off like 'i always get these damn emails, and i've heard the term 419. What do you guys know about this?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^Interesting that you should cut and paste this exact passage that was made made earlier in the thread, I'm guessing that you are a robot, or a ninja. I can't decide.

cliffordgoodman wrote:
also obviously i never mentioned i was involved in scambaiting or anything. i just played it off like 'i always get these damn emails, and i've heard the term 419. What do you guys know about this?'

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:07 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm locking this.

Reason being that some of the generalisations here are out of order.

Plus I don't like PF and have a strong belief that all threads with his posts in should be locked.

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