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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mod note:

This thread has been split from here. The posts that follow are in response to an email in the bait where the scammer was invited to bring his family on his trip. -luckey





I consider their family members ITPs and do not involve them.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^ Fuck them... My family eats the food and lives in the house paid for with honest earned money and the lads family are enjoying the spoils of ill gotten money so if they suffer a bit then it is extra punishment for the lad

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry Black Dog, but I disagree. Unless the family members are actively helping in the scam, then they are innocent third parties.
Hurting them doesn't punish the lad, it punishes them!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ As Crash said, family are itps, you would need a lot of evidence to convince me otherwise.

Lads are open season, family are off limits.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Always remember...lads lie....it is doubtful any of these lads family members are ill or dying. Its a common whine.

Yes family members could be considered ITP's however thats much like the Mafia wife saying she thought hubby was buying all the homes, cars, and diamonds from his salary as a plumbing salesman. Does anyone here seriously believe that a wife of a lad doesnt know where the money comes from? and if we agree that she does know doesnt that disqualify her from ITP status?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ouch, Black Dog!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Right... it's the child's fault his or her father is a thief. If not, then the child suffering makes the lad suffer all the more, so it's okay. I think not.

Of course the child is an ITP. What is more innocent than a child? I do not for the life of me understand how anyone can justify hurting a child.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

drab wrote:
I consider their family members ITPs and do not involve them.
I didn't post this to cause problems.

Black Dog wrote:
Here's some calls from the good Reverend Jxmes, even one where he talks to Stanley's wife:
If I had an opportunity to speak with a scammers wife on the phone it would be one of the few instances in which I would have outed myself and let her know her husband was a scammer rather than involve her and possibly children.
The wife is in a position to possibly end her husbands criminal activities whereas all I can do (the majority of the time) is waste their time.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Did I miss something? Confused

Edit ~ I think I found it.
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I would like you to permanently relocate to Accra and bring your whole family with you to live in Ghana


Is this what we are talking about? Did the whole family travel to Ghana?

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i will be coming with my wife an my three kids and my two house maid.with brother emmanuel.
Ahhhh, I'm running a bit slow today.

Question is did they all travel?

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i will be coming with two house maid
WTH?? not one but TWO maids? Damnnnn seems scamming has been paying off for him..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Here is the world's smallest violin... I might play a sad tune for all the lads families out there:

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Every time a lad is safaried, he is away from his family and if he is the sole provider then we are hurting the family.
When a lad is straight baited, it gives him hope that his format has worked on a maga and the long amount of time he invests he could have been looking for legitimate work.
Blah Blah Blah... We have heard it all before.

Do whatever you feel comfortable with.

I personally think INHO that the children of the lads are just the next generation of scammer... Just as the lad currently being baited was when he was a Ladling more than likely

People have had their say, so come on, don't trash my safari thread anymore.


{EDIT} The lads whole family didn't travel... But we did have a red hot go for it but

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Black Dog wrote:
I personally think INHO that the children of the lads are just the next generation of scammer...


That is some a pretty fecked up way of thinking and an even more fecked up excuse to screw with innocent kids.

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People have had their say, so come on, don't trash my safari thread anymore.


Do you have one of those violins handy for yourself?

Edit:
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Do whatever you feel comfortable with


Sure you can talk yourself into anything. However, if it violates the forum rules, you can't post here about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I never said I was targeting innocent kids, I am just saying they are the next generation of scammer.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

And I am saying that is a horrible way to think. You cannot know that to a certainty. Arrogance does not grant you the gift of foresight.

It doesn't matter what you have decided about the future of a child. We are dealing with the here and now. The here and now is children are innocent.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ghost wrote:
And I am saying that is a horrible way to think. You cannot know that to a certainty. Arrogance does not grant you the gift of foresight.

It doesn't matter what you have decided about the future of a child. We are dealing with the here and now. The here and now is children are innocent.


That is just dramatic bullshit... You are free to believe whatever you like just as much as me

You have a PM

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You said

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Fuck them..


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Here is the world's smallest violin... I might play a sad tune for all the lads families out there


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I personally think INHO that the children of the lads are just the next generation of scammer..


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I never said I was targeting innocent kids, I am just saying they are the next generation of scammer.


So I said that is a horrible way to think. Now you say I am being dramatic. Heck, I forgot to add it was a backward way of thinking as well.

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You are free to believe whatever you like just as much as me


Gee, thank you for giving me permission to believe children are innocent and no one can predict their future with any degree of certainty.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Congrats on another safari Black Dog.

As for the ITP dealio:
To me, it seems like ITP's are going to get burned from time to time as a result of our antics. Whether it be a lad's family, cafe owners, artists, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, etc.
The real issue is whether we are going out of our way to directly involve them.

"Have a taxi bring you to suchaplace."
is different than
"Have a taxi bring you to suchaplace, and when it arrives, hurry and tuck and roll from the vehicle before the cabbie asks for his money."

"TWAT requires you to fall backwards off of a pyramid into the arms of your local congregation."
is different than
"TWAT requires you to push your wife and children backwards off of a pyramid into the arms of your local congregation."

It'd be a feat of manipulation to get either bad scenario to happen, but it would be unethical... even for a bait.

Edit to add:
Stanley wrote:
I SLEPT IN THE CAR AND WAS BITES BY SO MUCH MOSQUETO AND I AM NOW FILLING SICK.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It would appear to me that a lad is a scammer and he is involving his family in his criminal liefstyle a baiter cannot be held responsible.

If a scammer involves his family in his activities, it is his fault and his fault alone. Every scammer has a family so do we stop baiting just in case they get hurt?

Victims have families too, so when a scammer considers them I'll consider the scammer's family, until them no holds barred.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Victims have families too, so when a scammer considers them I'll consider the scammer's family, until them no holds barred.


That makes you no different from a scammer then. Plain and simple. Maybe you should join the other team.

As for ITP family members. All this crap coming from the "professionals" on this board. Oh wow. A few safaris and they know soooooo much about lads. It's great that they can put us all straight.

Straight with what? FFS. Do you guys actually have first-hand knowledge that the lads' families are aware that they are scamming? You know this do you? You've had experience of lads' families knowingly living off ill-gotten gains?

Do you fuck.

Let me tell you something. It might sound a little way out there but let me put it there as a suggestion anyway - Lads lie.
Now as lads lie, do you think they all tell their families what they do for a living?
Do you think they go around for Sunday lunch and say "Hey Mum, hey Dad, I steal for a living"?

Bullshit. Let me tell you something. I know you're professionals so coming from an "amateur" like me, maybe it won't carry any weight: But when I've come across lad family members (and I have) they had no fucking clue what their husband/boyfriend/son/father was doing. In the majority of cases the lad didn't return home for weeks. The family stays in the village whilst the lad fucks off to the smoke to do the scamming. In quite a few cases, the lad fucks off to a seperate country. In one case I dealt with, the wife thought her husband was in Germany when he was really in the next country along (Burkhino Fasso), merrily scamming away. The truth is, lads lie.

"Ah yes" I hear you cry, "But they still got stolen cash!!!.
Yeah. You'd think so wouldn't you? But in some of the cases I've dealt with, they got jack shit, nada, fuck all, nothing. The lad stayed away from home and spent his cash on hi-tech, jewellrey and clubbing. The family stayed at home scratching their asses.

But of course - you professionals would know that.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Why the rolly eyes?

Come on then. In your professional opinion, what makes hitting women and children OK?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Slightlyoutofit wrote:
what makes hitting women and children OK?


WTF? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Don't play dumb.

You're advocating hitting lads' families. Women and children.
Or are you now pretending that by the word "hitting" I mean physically attacking?

Let me make it clearer.

Here are your words:

Quote:
The lads whole family didn't travel... But we did have a red hot go for it but...


What gives you the justification to try to deliberately fuck up a lads' family in the course of your baiting?

What makes that OK?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The rolly eyes were because I gave up reading your post after the 4th "fuck" mate... Come on now, you are a moderator on this site and supposed to be an example to members, running off like that just makes you look foolish

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Safari Abidjan > Accra - Elson "with out feeding and sliping at a car perck in Accra"
Safari Abuja > Lagos > Accra - Wadino "on the street roming like destitute"
Safari Accra > Lagos > Akure > jail > Lagos - Lad-onardo DaVinci "YOU HAVE GIVEN TO ME A WOUND IN MY HEART I WILL ALLWAYS REMEMBER"
SafariVcameraTattooTattoo Lagos > Accra - Smith "i have to sell my shoe"
SafariTattoo Lagos > Accra - Stanley "I SLEPT IN THE CAR AND WAS BITES BY SO MUCH MOSQUETO AND I AM NOW FILLING SICK"
SafariSafari Accra > Lagos - Dr Omo "have not eaten and bath even my tooth is dirty"

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Slightlyoutofit wrote:
Don't play dumb.

You're advocating hitting lads' families. Women and children.
Or are you now pretending that by the word "hitting" I mean physically attacking?

Let me make it clearer.

Here are your words:

Quote:
The lads whole family didn't travel... But we did have a red hot go for it but...


What gives you the justification to try to deliberately fuck up a lads' family in the course of your baiting?

What makes that OK?


I wasn't pretending to not understand, you weren't clear with what you meant.

As if the lad is gonna move his whole family so we put it as an offer to draw the lad to Ghana.

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Safari Abidjan > Accra - Elson "with out feeding and sliping at a car perck in Accra"
Safari Abuja > Lagos > Accra - Wadino "on the street roming like destitute"
Safari Accra > Lagos > Akure > jail > Lagos - Lad-onardo DaVinci "YOU HAVE GIVEN TO ME A WOUND IN MY HEART I WILL ALLWAYS REMEMBER"
SafariVcameraTattooTattoo Lagos > Accra - Smith "i have to sell my shoe"
SafariTattoo Lagos > Accra - Stanley "I SLEPT IN THE CAR AND WAS BITES BY SO MUCH MOSQUETO AND I AM NOW FILLING SICK"
SafariSafari Accra > Lagos - Dr Omo "have not eaten and bath even my tooth is dirty"

Random lad pain:
Safari X14 more & TattooGoatSand Timer

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