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Bond007
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello everyone

I posted my catcher account email to a couple of open guestbooks. Among the zillions of spam messages received, I've noticed a significant number of love/romance emails from Senegal. The emails are definitely non-scripted; the senders describe themselves as Senegalese and the headers also indicate so.

The tone of the messages is completely different from those of the typical Russian bride. The Senegalese emails tend to be shorter, more personal, they don't attach stunning photos from modeling agencies, etc.

I responded to a few of them and I got straight forward answers, and to the point. There hasn't been any hint whatsoever of money being requested, even after several rounds of emailing. Even my suggestion of visiting them in Senegal has been welcome.

I am unsure how to handle this. I can't believe that they are not scammers. My catcher account is new and the only places where I posted my address were in those guestbooks.

Any comment or views?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If they're harvesting your email from guest books, they're more than likely scammers. Not all love scammers use fake pictures etc and ask for money right off the bat. They will wait until you've "fallen in love", before they want money for an air ticket to visit you. Keep the emails going and see where it goes. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If they are contacting you from those guest books they are going to be spammers at best and most likely scammers as well.

I will PM an email address for you if you would like to forward some of the emails to me I can take a look over them.

Scammers from each region will behave in different ways, it is often possible to have a fair idea of where a scammer is based on the way they scam.

Senegalese are usually orphans in a refugee camp and need you to contact their bank to collect your / her money, I would be interested to see their latest trend Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Please don't post them via pm's as it's so much easier to get input from all the love baiters on the forum.

You can post a few of the emails here so we can take a look, but as I said, take it a bit further and see where it goes.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've got one from Senegal,

Should I post some details?

I'm only on the second email with 'her'...

...also, this is my first time at bat.

Cool

wish me luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Anchovy!

If you'd like to share your bait, that would be wonderful! Is it a Refugee? If so, you can turn it into a Love Bait, or you can turn it into something else if you wish .... my longest Refugee has a sister-brother relationship with my (married male) character.

Refugees (or, rather, Lads from Senegal) can be very suspicious and untrusting types! So go slow and play innocent and gullible!

You can certainly let everyone know who you are baiting right now - or you can keep the details secret if you wish. I often change the names of my Lad on the forums, so that Google can't pick it up, just in case he's that sort of Lad who likes to google himself. I do the same with my characters - just in case. I like to try for long-lasting baits, so I don't want any Lad knowing that I'm baiting him.

Oh: and Good Luck! Hope all goes well.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome Anchovy! Very Happy

Yes, go ahead and post. It can be more fun sharing the bait and you'll also get loads of input/advice as you go along.

Lots of luck! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

if anybody is intrested, i have a "girl" on the hook aswell. Send me a PM and ill send you the adress. the "poor" thing really believes im a man, ROFL.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Gila!

Glad to hear that you have got your Lad convinced about your character!

If you'd like other people to join you in baiting that one, you can always post the email address here, and then anyone who sees it can send a mail too. And maybe compare notes with you on this thread. It'd be helpful if you also posted the first mail you received from 'her', and the header also (remove your character's name and email address first).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My Dearest,‏
From: lorrita keita ([email protected])

Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:36:38 PM
To:
My Dearest,
My name is Lorrita. i am a female I was impressed when i saw your profile today and i like it i will like to establish a long lasting relationship with you. In addition,i will like you to reply me through my e mail box ([email protected]).This is because i don't know the possibilities of remaining in forum for a long time. please If you are interested in knowing more about me please contact me directly to my email address box so i will send you some of my pictures imediately,
Thanks waiting to hear from you .
Lorrita.

Dear Lorreta,

May i ask where you saw my profile? Please tell me more about yourself, and could you send me some pictures of yourself? You have to know i am in a relationship at the moment but i alway's keep my eyes open for something else.


I.M. Gila.



My dearest,
I am more than happy to read your mail today, How was your day? Mine is a little bit hot over here in Dakar Senegal. My name is Lorrita keita I 'm 23, from Ivory Coast in West Africa,5.11ft tall, Fair in complexion,(never married before )and presently i am residing in the refugee camp here in Dakar as a result of the civil war that was fought in my country.

My late father Dr Sulivan Keita was the managing director of Keita and Associates (Ltd) and he was the personal advicer to the former head of state before the rebels attacked our house one early morning and killed my mother and my father in cold blood.

It was only me that is alive now and I managed to make my way to a near by country Senegal where i am Iiving now in a refugee camp,and this computer is belonging to a revrend that has a church here in the camp. I would like to know more about you.Your likes and dislikes,your hobbies and what you are doing presently. I will tell you more about myself in my next mail. Attached here is my picture. I liked see yours, Hoping to hear from you soon.
miss Lorrita.


Hi Lorrita,

You look very cute And its good to hear your safe now. Just to be sure im talking to the cute girl in the picture, can you send me a picture of yourself with a sign saying my name (I.M. Gila)?

I still wonder where you saw my profile. And with you being Christian i do wonder if you dont have a problem with me being engaged and planned to get married in August.

You asked for my likes and dislikes. I like it when a woman is able to support herself, the woman im about to marry (if all goes well) works, pay's all our bills and paid for my brand new car. I like it when a woman takes care of my so i dont have to clean, cook, wash,iron, ect ect. I like to go out on my own without my girl at my side.

I dislike, nagging woman, babies, work, clean, woman who speak up because "its their right".

You also asked for my picture, im sorry but i dont have a camera so ill have to ask my firend if he can make me one.

Regards,

I.M. Gila


Hello dearest,
How is your day?. I believe is fine. Mine here is very cold and like you know i am living in the refugee camp here in Dakar. In this camp we are only allowed to go out only on mondays and fridays of the weeks.Its just like one staying in the prison and i hope by Gods grace i will come out here soon.

I don't have any relatives now whom i can go to as all my relatives ran away in the middle of the war. The only person i have now is Rev.David Mattew who is the pastor of the (Living Spring Christian Church) here in the camp, he has been very nice to me since i came here but i am not living with him rather i live in the females's hostel because the camp have two hostels one for men the other for women.

The Pastors Tel number is (+221-77-506-9800) if you call, please tell him that you want to speak with me so that he will send for me in the hostel. call 3pm gmt today please.As a refugee here i don't have any right or privilledge to any thing be it money or whatever because it is against the law of this country.I want to go back to my studies because i only attended my first year before the traggic incident that lead to the death of my parents took place.

Please listen to this,i have my late father's statement of account and death certificate here with me which i will send to you latter,because when he was alive he deposited some amount of money in a leading bank in Europe which he used my name as the next of kin,the amount in question is $2.7M (Two Million Seven Hundred Thousand Dollars). So i will like you to help me transfer this money to your account and from it you can send some money for me to get my travelling documents and air ticket to come over to meet with you.
I kept this secret to people in the camp here the only person that knows about it is the Reverend because he is like a father to me. So in the light of above i will like you to keep it to yourself and don't tell it to anyone for i am afraid of loosing my life and the money if people gets to know about it. Remember i am giving you all this information due to the trust i deposed on you.I like honest and understanding people,truthful and a man of vision , truth and hardworking. My favourite language is also english..Meanwhile i will like you to call me like i said i have alot to tell you. Call around 3pm gmt time.
i have a lot to tell you.
your lorrita

Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:22:26 PM
To: scam artist ([email protected])
Dear Lorrita,

Why did i not get any form of reply to any of my questions? I thought that we were supossed to get to know eachother better first?

Anyway, thats a sad story you just told me. Believe me your word is safe with me. You asked me to call you but as i told you before, my girlfriend pay' s all my bills and she will notice the long distance call on the bill. What is it that you want me to do?

By the way, im still waiting for that picture of you holding that sign with my name, I.M. Gila.

love, Ian.


Thats all ive got up to now. If anybody would like to take over from here just let me know, im not an expert in this and wanna screw it up.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's a cool idea of yours to have your character engaged to be married - and the way that also prevents phone calls. One of my characters actually met a local woman, married her, and had a baby in the middle of his Refugee-bait. And another one of mine has a local boyfriend and an online lover .... and none of her Love Lads mind at all, of course. They love her (money) anyway. And I like inventing my character's stories.

No reason you can't continue with that bait - no expertise necessary, and the forum is a good place to ask for help if you would appreciate some! The Lad won't be able to provide the picture you want, of course, unless he is good at photoshopping, because he'll be using photos he downloaded from somebody else's website, and doesn't have access to the woman on those photographs. At the moment the Lad is still sending you his 'scripts' - his pre-written letters. But he'll come 'off-script' in the end, and start writing the emails himself.

The first email was not sent out long ago, so anyone who wants to join in can send replies to that from their own character. They will get the same scripts at first, but after the Lad's scripts have run out, the replies will diversify.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Its said really that they are that stupid and fall for it. Look at my first mail i sent, it say's U.R. Gila (gila means crazy in Indonesia).

ill try to get some sort of trophy out of him though. If he doesnt want to send me a pic of her with the sign ill ask one of the Reverend =P.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

From: [email protected]
IP: 213.154.93.228
Subject: I WILL LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU

+ her initial format. Seems I´m in, too Smile
And her photo is VERY familiar! Big fat gallery of scammers (ab)using it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My Dearest,

How are you today?,I believe you are doing fine! As for me i am fine here with all hopes to meet with you immediately after the transfer of my money to your position for a better life.

God will bless and reward you for every effort you are about to make to see me out from this horrible prison called refugee camp where i am living today as a result of the untimely death of my parents(may their gentle souls rest in peace).

like i told you in my previous mail, the laws of this country doesnt allow me to handle financial issues due to my refugee statues and i dont have a resident permit to enable me handle it by myself, and the bank requested that i should present a foreign partner that will stand on my behalf to transfer the said amount. please i will like you to send an email to the bank immediately and tell them that you are my foreign partner and you want to assist me transfer the amount of 2.7million usd deposited by my my late father DR Silivan Keita due to my refugee statues here in dakar.

Here is the contact information of the bank in London where the money was
deposited by my late father is as follows;
RABO BANK OF LONDON
NAME OF THE TRANSFER OFFICER IS MR LEED HANSON.
EMAIL ADDRESS ([email protected])
TELEPHONE NUMBER IS 703-182-2346 or 703-182-2324
Already i have informed this bank about my intention to claim my late father's deposit of which my name appears as the next of kin. The only thing the bank told me is to look for a foreign partner who will assist me in the transfer due to my refugee status here in Senegal, as a refugee i am not allowed direct claim of the money but through an appointed representative as the united refugee law governing refugee all over the world states.

Based on this information i will like you to send an email to the transfer department of the bank today with this email addrress ([email protected]) Attentioned MR LEED HANSON the foreign transfer officer of the bank telling him that you are my representative and that you want to assist me transfer my late father's 2.7 million dollars deposited by late father of which iam the next of kin .

THE ACCOUNT INFORMATION ARE AS FOLLOWS.
ACCOUNT NAME IS DR SULIVAN KEITA
AMOUNT 2.7 MILLION DOLLARS.
NEXT OF KIN MISS LORRITA KEITA.
ACCOUNT NUMBER 43483043

God bless you as you do this today, i will be waiting to hear from you soonest.
Yours Lorrita.



Hi Sweety,

I think i have very good news for you. My sister in-law works for the Rabobank here in Holland at the international department. She might be able to help us out with out any effort. Can you give me some details about the bank account like number, name of the person owning that bank account and place of the bank?

But before i help you out more i would like to get to know you a bit better. Can you send me some more proof so i know im talking to a real person? My girlfriend is getting a bit suspicious and if you show me more pictures of the place where you live she might believe im just helping you. I also promised her a picture of the Reverend as i told her im helping him instead of you. Just a picture of him with a sign saying my initials and last name. If i dont get that picture of the reverend my fiance is gonna cut off the internet completely and i wont be able to help you out any more. SO PLEASE SEND ME A PICTURE OF THE REVEREND WITH THE SIGN, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

xxx, Ian M. Gila.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A coupl eof months ago, I left my email in a few guestbooks, which I found by googling the usual "guestbook mugu or guyman" keywords. For the life of me, I can't remember the exact guestbook but now I'm receiving a flood of messages from Senegal, confirmed by email headers.

Those messages are of two categories: (1) the ones which are after "romance" directly and (2) first email is about looking for romance but the second one starts with the refugee story, the orphanage, and the reverend/pastor.

In my humble opinion, the Senegalese approach is much simple; it's easy to put them out of a script and sometimes the initial email has the exact email address than following emails (as opposed to using one for the general spamming process and a second one to reply if you are interested). Getting simple trophies like asking them to complete ridiculous forms is quite straight forward, although I've never managed to extract a good pic. I think that the Senegalese love scam is way behind the traditional Nigerian 419 or the Russian bride one.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

From: [email protected]
IP: 196.207.228.225
Subject: PLEASE CONTACT THIS BANK TODAY FOR COMFIRMATION AND POSSIBLE TRANSFER
Tel: +447031822346

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My Dearest,
How are you today?,I believe you are doing fine! Asfor me i am fine here with all hopes to meet with you immediately afterthe transfer of my money to your position for a better life. i am happyto speak with you yesterday and my heart fills with joys and happiness,
Godwill bless and reward you for every effort you are about to make to seeme out from this horrible prison called refugee camp where i am livingtoday as a result of the untimely death of my parents(may their gentlesouls rest in peace).like i told you in my previous mail, thelaws of this country doesnt allow me to handle financial issues due tomy refugee statues and i dont have a resident permit to enable mehandle it by myself, and the bank requested that i should present aforeign partner that will stand on my behalf to transfer the saidamount. please i will like you to send an email to the bank immediatelyand tell them that you are my foreign partner and you want to assist metransfer the amount of 2.7million usd deposited by my my late father DRSilivan Keita due to my refugee statues here in dakar..
Here is the contact information of the bank in London where the money was
deposited by my late father is as follows;
RABO BANK OF LONDON
NAME OF THE TRANSFER OFFICER IS MR LEED HANSON.
EMAIL ADDRESS ([email protected])
TELEPHONE NUMBER IS +44-703-182-2346 or +44-703-182-2324
Alreadyi have informed this bank about my intention to claim my late father'sdeposit of which my name appears as the next of kin. The only thing thebank told me is to look for a foreign partner who will assist me in thetransfer due to my refugee status here in Senegal, as a refugee i amnot allowed direct claim of the money but through an appointedrepresentative as the united refugee law governing refugee all over theworld states.
Basedon this information i will like you to send an email to the transferdepartment of the bank today with this email addrress ([email protected])Attentioned MR LEED HANSON the foreign transfer officer of the banktelling him that you are my representative and that you want to assistme transfer my late father's 2.7 million dollars deposited by latefather of which iam the next of kin ..

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