ASEM from a scammer?

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Wannabe Baiter Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 83

One of my catcher accounts got some interesting e-mail over night. It looks to be the initial response given here:

http://www.419eater.com/html/bigman.htm

I got two of them, with different subjects, but the same body. Are the scammers now trying to use ASEM on us?

I haven't yet replied since I'm in the process of changing characters.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:40 pm

Do you mean the first letter from the Lad, or the second one?

The first one is standard Dying Individual script, sent out - with a few minor changes - by many many Lads.

The second one was an original response to that particular baiter back in 2006 - but Lads will utilise anything that they think might work. It could be sent out as a 'new format' by the same Lad, or by one of his friends or network.

Last year my character persuaded one of my refugees that, rather than transfer her money to his bank account, she should start up a hairdressing salon in Ghana, instead. My character would help with the initial costs, on condition that she wrote an article about her past and her future plans and business ideas for his church magazine. The refugee complied. Since then, one of my catcher accounts has received more-or-less exactly the same 'magazine article', but now sent out as a 'Please help me start a hairdressing salon' format.

It was a rather attractive new script. Hopefully having three of my other characters responding by 'immediately recognising it as a scam' has stopped it seeming quite so attractive to the Lad. You could do the same with your Lad, if you wished - if you think that a request for art sponsorship is more likely to draw real victims than a Dying Individual script. Or, alternatively, just bait him as normal!

Wannabe Baiter Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 83

The art scholarship response, completely unchanged, except to put the address below at the top.. In fact, in just the vein of making a scam less attractive, here's his/her address to bombard with that sort of "this is a scam" message:

m r s . a n g e l a w i g h t 1 2 @ hotmail.com

(minus the spaces of course)

I'll be sending out this response from a few of my characters.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:01 pm

Oooh I'm in! I love bombarding scammers with 'this is just a scam' message. Very Happy

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:23 pm

I've had a couple of ASEMs from scammers. Mostly in the style of those ones that pretend to be from business associates who just completed a very large transaction with you and want to arrange to send you your share of the profits, although for some reason that mail always seems to turn up in the inboxes of people who have never heard of the guy.
Asking "Who the heck are you?" just seems to make him angry though. I dunno if that one has really thought it out properly.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:56 pm

Technomancer, (and Branwen and everybody)^^^ I had always wondered about that script-format with the content "..bla bla the business deal was financed to a logical conclusion with the partner from_____"
fill in the blank with a country name .

It's like a mini-epiphany. Always wondered why they sent that one.
I couldn't make heads nor tails til now. Been getting that ASEM on & off for years now.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:18 pm

I've received the "Partner from Paraguay" (or wherever) as both an ASEM as well as part of a scam bait that's winding down. In the former case, I've sometimes replied as if I'd been dropped by the sender, and got some good baiting out of it.

In one case, it proved to be the opening letter, and got me a prime bait; http://www.scamorama.com/eliza_dane_green_days.html (see part 2)