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Super Girl
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

[b]I got this email today but I never looked at any sites about starting my own business. I'm not even sure where they could have gotten my email address as I don't surf in the net and haven't sold anzthing on-line in over a year.

What kind of scam is this?[/b]

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From: "Heidi" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Heidi" <[email protected]>
Subject: [!! SPAM] Follow up...
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:25:57 -0700
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Hi XXXXXXXX,

I'm happy to say that just a few days ago your name was among those who requested detailed information about starting your own home business. One of my jobs now is to follow up and make sure that the staff here at Online Hosting Network answered all of your questions and concerns satisfactorily. Of course, if we've already helped you get your business set up, I think you'll appreciate seeing this particular email communication even more.

You see, following up using an email like this is a terrific way for me to demonstrate how we use our automated technology to help YOU generate new referrals. After all, if you've already listened to our audio presentation, you know that referral commissions are one of the fastest ways to earn cash when you first get started with our online business.

We've worked really hard to create a business system that provides you with an affordable, easy-to-operate and fun method of creating multiple streams of income right from your home. And you know XXXXXX, I feel like we're doing a lot of things right when we hear people tell us how surprised they were when they called in and found out how affordable getting started in this remarkable online business actually is!

But everyone agrees that the most exciting part is when those checks start to come in each month.

So if you haven't started yet, and if you've got a few minutes to listen to our audio presentation, give us a toll-free call and ask our phone attendant to play the audio for you. It's a great way to get answers to all your questions. Heck, that call may even change your life!

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And please tell our representative answering the phone that you are calling long-distance. Just provide your number and we'll call you right back. For international dialing instructions, click or copy the following link into your browser: http://countrycallingcodes.com

If you'd like to know what time it is at Online Hosting Network, click or copy and paste the following link into your browser: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=197

We have sent you this email because you have requested to receive information from Online Hosting Network. If you do not wish to receive information from Online Hosting Network, you can permanently unsubscribe by clicking or copying this link and pasting it in your browser: http://kjhd.cewjrr.com/[email protected]

[b]It sounds like some sort of escort service or on-line prostitution ring. I certainly won't be answering Heidi, so if someone here wants to have fun with her, be my guest.[/b]
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curlyearl
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Got this from
http://electronplumber.com/is-the-online-hosting-network-a-scam/
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The owner of the first site – dwlane.com is likely out a lot of $$$ right now. Far more than the few hundred $$ a month than the Google Cash types take folks for.

While dwlane.com doesn’t look like much, it cost anywhere in the neighborhood of $1500.00USD to $6000.00USD to have “developed”.

The poor owner of dwlane is an innocent who fell for the high-pressure sales tactics of a group called the “Onlinehostingnetwork” who promises to build you an “Amazon Store”, often with a banner or two from a couple of other popular affiliate programs. They also promise a minimum of say, 10,000 (useless) clicks to “get your business off the ground”.

Of course, as El Admin notes, dwlane’s store is not likely to generate much if any sales. dwlanes “Coach” at the “Onlinehostingnetwork” will soon offer “help”. The “help”? Well, because s/he only invested $1500.00USD for the “Basic” package, the “coach” will do a hard-sell to get dwlane to upgrade to the “Platinum” package for about $3500 which is absolutely certain to generate the promised riches — likely another banner or two and some more empty promises.

Of course, even the Platinum level will begin to wear down dwlane’s patience after a while. However having invested so much effort (read dollars) in this website, the Coach will aggressively suggest upgrading to the 5K “Gold” package.

Of course the “Gold” package will be similarly yield nary a sale. At this point, the “Coach” gets harder and harder to contact since the max $$$ have been taken from the unsuspecting dwlane and heaven forbid dwlane should contact an attorney or the FTC or the local DA’s office in Phoenix. These schemes seem to thrive in AZ, possibly because of some loophole in the law. Also the “Onlinehostingnetwork” is likely to undergo a name change if things get complicated and will morph into one a new company name among the galaxy of similar operations that operate in this cruel manner. Company names in these sort of schemes change faster than you change your undergarments.

IMO, this sort of high-pressure, heavy-duty, big ticket scam is much more pernicious than even the slimy “Adwords Riches” spam offers that are all over our Inboxes each morning. The Adwords type scams which will create the headache of cancelling credit cards are pikers on the scale of evil compared to the outfits that “helped” dwlane create that “store”.

Those “stores” often wipe out the life savings of the unsuspecting and folks desperate to make a living in this so difficult times. Contracts are signed, in-your-face high pressure “investment” tactics have been honed by the “Coaches” and the companies behind them.

It’s enough to make one almost thankful if they’ve only been taken by a “Google Millions” scam which I believe was the impetus for El Admin starting this blog to educate folks to the lies and just barely within the law “opportunities” that we’re inundated with



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Super Girl
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

So how did this scammer get my name? The letter was addressed to me personally?
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Dorothy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If you have ever (even if it was years ago) used your name and email address for one of the following:

-purchased anything online
-filled out a survey
-joined an online group or forum
-posted (or had someone else post) your name and email anywhere on the web
-been listed in an email provider's published directory
-signed up for a contest or mailing list at a store


then your name could have gotten on a mailing list that was purchased (or even stolen).

Once upon a time, a not-so-bright employee of the nonprofit I work for signed up for something using her name and our primary email address (although she denied any knowledge of it, I know she did because of how it went down. ) I spent weeks trying to clean up the mess and unsubscribe from the more reputable sites linked to the hundreds of daily emails with assorted offers, work-at-home opportunities, REO's, and dating site spam.

It is now 4 years later, she has married and changed her name, and we still get crap addressed to her maiden name every couple of weeks as new companies buy old mailing lists.

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Super Girl
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If Ireply to the mail to unsuscribe myself from any future mails am I not just confirming my address so they can send me more crap?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Super Girl wrote:
If Ireply to the mail to unsuscribe myself from any future mails am I not just confirming my address so they can send me more crap?


For the disreputable ones, yes. Unfortunately, they're the overwhelming vast majority of spammers.

If your email address was bought by a spammer, it won't do any good unsubscribing anyway.

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Dorothy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

As Bobcat said, if you unsubscribe from the more reputable sites, you will really be unsubscribed. Basically, if you accidentally "opt-in" to something, you may start getting junk mail from sites who are affiliated with them. Those sites often have a legitimate unsubscribe process. The general spammers who buy the mailing lists do not have legitimate unsubscribe processes--in fact, often if you hover over and look at their "unsubscribe" link, you will see the link is identical to all the other links in the email, which is a dead giveaway. The hard part is identifying the real from the fake. When I had to do it, I researched sites first, and ultimately cut the incoming spam addressed to this person by about 70%.

As far as confirming the email address goes, in my case the address in question had an autoresponder which already confirmed the live address, so that wouldn't have been a major concern, but one of the bigger risks of clicking on an unsubscribe link from a spammer without checking them out first is that you could also be exposing yourself to viruses.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've been trying to get my own personal mailbox spamfree since forever. I've stopped trying.
I keep getting mails for my home in chester. There is only one place where i made an account where i claimed from being Chester (i'm not , i don't even know where Chester (CU) is). And apparantly they sell their contact lists to third partys. And since the original site doesn't send out contact mails , you can't subscribe from their list (the sneaky buggers) and i doubt they would actually remove you.
i've cut it down to about 2-3 spam mails per day by just googling me email adress and removing it evrywhere i find it or mailing the person who owned the site to remove my email adress.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi, I got the same email and it was sent through doing online surveys. I tried to follow the link on the above post to unsubscribe and also cut and paste it to my browser and clicked on search and I used my other browser and clicked the arrow. All three times and three ways it came up the same. A blank page that said "Email error, page not found". As I read the emails including the one posted above, I thought it just didn't sound right! So I tried to unsubscribe but that's what happened. The page to unsubscribe doesn't exist. That makes me even more suspiscious. Confused Mad




Dorothy wrote:
As Bobcat said, if you unsubscribe from the more reputable sites, you will really be unsubscribed. Basically, if you accidentally "opt-in" to something, you may start getting junk mail from sites who are affiliated with them. Those sites often have a legitimate unsubscribe process. The general spammers who buy the mailing lists do not have legitimate unsubscribe processes--in fact, often if you hover over and look at their "unsubscribe" link, you will see the link is identical to all the other links in the email, which is a dead giveaway. The hard part is identifying the real from the fake. When I had to do it, I researched sites first, and ultimately cut the incoming spam addressed to this person by about 70%.

As far as confirming the email address goes, in my case the address in question had an autoresponder which already confirmed the live address, so that wouldn't have been a major concern, but one of the bigger risks of clicking on an unsubscribe link from a spammer without checking them out first is that you could also be exposing yourself to viruses.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The reason why the posted link does not work is because the email address has been XXXed out.

I got one of those emails from clicking on something in an online survey.

When I clicked on the unsubscribe link - it did go to a sensible page.

Have only just unsubscribed, so remains to be seen whether I keep getting emails, but is more likely to be the survey crowd who persist.

At least I used an email I created just for this, so can delete the email if I need to.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi, OK thanks. Rolling Eyes I did use the link that was given to me in my email and it did not work either. I tried it in 2 different earch bars and came up the same as page not found. Idea Maybe I will try again later with my link. Idea I have moved the email I received to my deleted messages folder to prevent any problems.


golfdish wrote:
The reason why the posted link does not work is because the email address has been XXXed out.

I got one of those emails from clicking on something in an online survey.

When I clicked on the unsubscribe link - it did go to a sensible page.

Have only just unsubscribed, so remains to be seen whether I keep getting emails, but is more likely to be the survey crowd who persist.

At least I used an email I created just for this, so can delete the email if I need to.

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