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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

hello everyone..i am certain my brother is being scammed by a nigerian woman who is having him send money via western union to fund an internet cafe...the woman in question is supposedly the director of a college in london. Rolling Eyes

.but i think to myself why would someone who holds the position of a college director in london want someone to send money via western union? and to open a cafe in nigeria! Shocked

isnt nigeria one of the most dangerous countries in the world Evil or Very Mad

so who would wanting to be taking tea in a cafe over there!...any thoughts or suggestion would be most welcome..im sure my brother is getting royally ripped off!

Wannabe Baiter Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 80

Tell him he is being scammed. Then direct him to this site and go to Scam Warners. There is no way what he is doing is legitimate, remember, it's possible that it's a crime to be involved [even as a victim] in advance fee fraud depending on how it's carried out and the details around it [country where one resides matters too].

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

Tyr Yuanoowon wrote:

Tell him he is being scammed. Then direct him to this site and go to Scam Warners. There is no way what he is doing is legitimate, remember, it's possible that it's a crime to be involved [even as a victim] in advance fee fraud depending on how it's carried out and the details around it [country where one resides matters too].

i agree,i have tried to tell him hes being scammed but he wont listen..its a difficult one.....

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:02 am

You are in the best position here to alert your brother to this fraud. We have people that can send him emails with links to various examples, which he may choose to NOT click.

He won't want to believe this isn't a scam. He will be feeling very silly and embarrassed, but you need to convince him that he shouldn't, and now is the time to act.

You know your brother best so find the most effective way for him to take you very seriously. Be calm and rational and highlight all the warning signs that this is a scam. You can email him links to our websites (eater.com & scamwarners.com) Do google searches on the email address and name of this scammer. If they claim to hold a position in a London University, call them and a do a background check. If they are using a real persons name contact them and let them know that their name is being used to scam. Let your brother speak to this person.

Whatever it takes, show him and prove it.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

Nurse Nasty wrote:

You are in the best position here to alert your brother to this fraud. We have people that can send him emails with links to various examples, which he may choose to NOT click.

He won't want to believe this isn't a scam. He will be feeling very silly and embarrassed, but you need to convince him that he shouldn't, and now is the time to act.

You know your brother best so find the most effective way for him to take you very seriously. Be calm and rational and highlight all the warning signs that this is a scam. You can email him links to our websites (eater.com & scamwarners.com) Do google searches on the email address and name of this scammer. If they claim to hold a position in a London University, call them and a do a background check. If they are using a real persons name contact them and let them know that their name is being used to scam. Let your brother speak to this person.

Whatever it takes, show him and prove it.

your right on all of that...it is known that most foreign language colleges in london are bogus and are on the watch list of the border control agency in the UK..i need concrete proof because he just wont listen..the thing is its the woman from the college who is doing the scam!!!

Baiting Guru Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 5727

It isn't by any chance "Concepts College" is it?

And do what Nurse Nasty says.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:05 am

scottishlass wrote:

i need concrete proof because he just wont listen..the thing is its the woman from the college who is doing the scam!!!

The other thing you can do, and I apologise for not thinking of it earlier, is contacting your local police, particularly the cyber-crime division (which won't be with your local police) and pass on any information you have about this person.

Have them call your brother, because if this person actually exists and is committing a crime, then the police will investigate.

Also could you please send me any information you have as well. You can PM that information to me by click here. Send me a private message.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

Jayhawk wrote:

It isn't by any chance "Concepts College" is it?

And do what Nurse Nasty says.

no its not..is concepts college one of those fake colleges?ive heard there are a lot of them in london and they are on the watch list of thhe border control agency

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:49 pm

Scammers don't use their real life details in scams. Not when the Internet makes it so easy to be anonymous. I doubt there is any London connection.
A Nigerian lad won't know the iffy reputations of some London colleges.

Master Baiter Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 123

is he actually being sent cheques to cash and then send on payments, or is it a love scam?

He will be in denial about sending a young Nigerian lad a load of cash.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

meloncoly wrote:

is he actually being sent cheques to cash and then send on payments, or is it a love scam?

He will be in denial about sending a young Nigerian lad a load of cash.

no. he is sending money via western union £200/£300 maybe once or twice in a month for an "investment" in an internet cafe....the "woman" he is sending the money to is supposedly a director of a foreign language college in london......

Master Baiter Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 123

well I hope you can tell him ASAP it's a 100% scam, and every single person on the Internet agrees, except for this college woman of course.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

Mr Tambourine Man wrote:

Scammers don't use their real life details in scams. Not when the Internet makes it so easy to be anonymous. I doubt there is any London connection.
A Nigerian lad won't know the iffy reputations of some London colleges.

i just think that if anyone was running a legitimate business they would not ask for money via western union..if the business was legit surely a bankers draft or cheque would suffice...i smell a rat!

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

meloncoly wrote:

well I hope you can tell him ASAP it's a 100% scam, and every single person on the Internet agrees, except for this college woman of course.

ive told him! more time than you could shake a stick at!!!..i dont think he would believe me unless i got some evidence she was scamming him..but i dont know how to get that
maybe it is legit? maybe ive got it all wrong...but i dont think so

Master Baiter Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 123

It is definitely a scam. he will keep sending money with no return until he realises it is.

Ask him to check up her UK credentials, she wont exist.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

meloncoly wrote:

It is definitely a scam. he will keep sending money with no return until he realises it is.

Ask him to check up her UK credentials, she wont exist.

your right! he will keep ssending her money untill he has none to send...
but how do you check her credentials?

Master Baiter Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 123

she must have sent your brother some sort of ID, check her details with the supposed college details, if she has stolen an identity then contact that person through the college and ask if she knows anything about it.

Tell his friends, Nigerian scams are fairly common knowledge, he might get made fun of, but better than sending all that money.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

meloncoly wrote:

she must have sent your brother some sort of ID, check her details with the supposed college details, if she has stolen an identity then contact that person through the college and ask if she knows anything about it.

Tell his friends, Nigerian scams are fairly common knowledge, he might get made fun of, but better than sending all that money.

i actually know who the woman is and ive seen a picture of her...ive emaile d her at the college but got no response....i might try and email another member of the college see if i get any response....
im determined to put a stop to her... Mad

Master Baiter Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 123

would you mind sharing the college web site? Did she send the web address to you herself?

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 10

meloncoly wrote:

would you mind sharing the college web site? Did she send the web address to you herself?

well my brother showed it to me...i mean,for all i know she could be legit...but i dont think she is....im not sure if i should put the colllege website oin the forum,just incase im wrong...but i can always PM you if you like....i may be way off on this one,but i dont think i am....and i hate to see him getting ripped off to the tune of thousands..which is what is happening

Master Baiter Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 123

you can pm it if you like

it's just it could be:
-a fake site and could be shut down
-it's a real college but somebody has just used the name of a teacher there
-it's a dodgy college that might employ a scammer who might not even live here

and western union is almost exclusively used by Nigerian scammers and moneygram, who commonly use fake id to pick up payments in corrupt WU offices

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:27 pm

A few warning signs that will help put he seeds of doubt in your brothers mind

1. is this "woman" using a company email? no college would use a gmail account or anything similiar.

2. if he takes the headers from his emails,(this link will show your how http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/19.html) and cut and pastes them into this site http://headertool.apelord.com/ it should give a fairly good indication of where the emails are originating from (unless the scammer is using gmail or hushmail) so are they even coming from London? or do they originate in West Africa?

3. take some key phrases (from the first or second email as this is to a script) or the scammers email address or phone number and google them, do you come up with any scam related links? chances are other people have been scammed by them before and posted their ordeal.

4. Tell your brother to start asking questions, ask if he can use a bank account, ask why a legitimate business would use WU, no business should use an untraceable transfer system. watch her squirm when she tries to convince him its the best way and wont accept any other methods.

5. call the college in question, if it really exists (dont trust the website they linked to it, use a phone directory to find it) and ask to speak to this person regarding it. the person wont exist or wont know anything about it if they do. (stolen identity)

6. encourage your brother to come have a chat to some of the people here and at scamwarners.com some of the folks at scam warners might even talk to him over the phone if it helps. (what country is he in?)

7. the picture of the woman, is fake, not her, no doubt about it. if you put that picture into this site, it will show you where the picture was taken from on the internet www.tineye.com

pm me if you would like any other help before this goes any further