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scrappinsally
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This email just came through my mom's email. I'm putting number 5s in the name and email for googling purposes. I hope that's what I'm supposed to do. If not, someone let me know.

The email address is: [email protected]
minus the 5's of course.


Dear

Contrary to the informations coming to my desk ot apears to me that you can not come up with the $4,500 fee that you are suppost to pay despite the extention of the time for you to get the money we still have strong indications that you can bot come up with this money money within the deadline extend. The federal government is now planing to contact the Bank Of America to return the money back to the countty by the ending of feburary becuae the acting president just gave this directive due to the fact that the government is trying to raise $40million for HAITI a carebian country that was devastated by earth quake 10 days ago. Let us know your stand on this and also if you can get the money sent before the ending of next month.like to read back from you soon

Ho5n San5usi Lam5ido.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not sure how you can fall for the same scam again and again, but these guys need to be mass baited.

Can you find the original e-mails sent for this scam?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm looking for the original emails now. It looks like she has been talking to them for quite some time now. There are tons of emails that I'm going through. And the bad part is they keep changing "people" so the email addresses and people keep changing, so it's hard to sort out what is what.

I don't know how she even kept up with this crap. But I do see emails where she has sent them money grams for different amounts, but I can't tell who the money gram was to, there is just a reference number, no names.

I'm still digging.

Oh, also it looks like she opened a couple of different bank accounts to deposit checks that they sent her (fraudulent, no doubt)

So, the more I dig, the more crap I find. It just keeps getting worse.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi scrappinsally

I found a couple of hits on the name you supplied, if I decoded it right.

http://www.419baiter.com/_scam_emails/0-rzy-09-06a/scam-email-046957.shtml

http://scamoftheday.com/wordpress/2009/08/27/dating-101-dealing-with-the-race-factor-30/

See if these sound like the letters your mother got.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The cheques will be fake and your mother will have been asked to cash them and send some of the money to someone else using Western Union.

You should contact the bank and tell them that you suspect fake cheques have been deposited.

It is not unknown for victims of cheque fraud to be charged as accessories to the crime.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Heres a few more google hit on just the name:

http://antifraudintl.org/showthread.php?t=24677&page=2

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=119856

http://forum.affiliatetrust.org/showthread.php?p=12317

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You are a goat. And very stupid. I will deal with you very soon, just wait, I have all your contact address, and I will trace you very soon, for insulting me, all evidence of your insult to me has been filed.

Lawyer M4nu3l told me that you could be one of this terrorist in the usa. and I later find out on my research on you, that you are one of the bastards in wherever you are. not even in usa."


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
trying to raise $40million for HAITI


Another F***ing Haiti scam! Damn these parasites.Mad

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

seamless, yup, the letters sound very familiar!
Look at the one I just read, they are trying to scare her into sending more money. This even came with a lovely FBI header and a picture of the director of the FBI at the bottom.


They spelled her name wrong by the way. And this Mr Glen is one of the ones that have been scamming her.

This came from email address: [email protected]
minus the 5s again.

Should I be coding the names and email addresses or not? I'm unclear on that.

ATTENTION: blank


We believe this notification meet you in a very good present state of mind and health.The Federal bureau of investigation (FBI) Washington, D.C in conjunction with some other relevant Investigations Agencies in Nigeria have recently been informed through our Global intelligence monitoring network that you presently have a transaction going on with the Bank Of America (B.O.A) and that the transaction as been place on hold due to the report that came in from one of our subsidiary office in Nigeria, a man name Prince Tony reportedly said you and blank blank and Glen Amzy took a loan of $13,700 and promised to pay the money back with the sum of $100,000 but you and Mr Glen only offer to pay him $47,000, now we have Mr Glen in one of our detention facility in Nigeria and also his Mansion in Wyoming USA has been locked down today by the F.B.I, we are now instructing you to pay the total amount of $47,000 to Prince Tony and that has to be within 90 days starting from today, failure to do this might also led to your arrest in blank Texas so get back to us as soon read this message to let us know if you will be paying the money installmenty or you you want to pay it once.again you only have 90 days to pay this money before we can release Mr Glen and lift the ban on your transaction with the BOA.get back to us ASAP.






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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh my God! I can't believe this crap!!!


Hello blank

This is just to inform you that we have you on our internet raider meaning that we have been monitoring all you internet activities for the past few days and we access some of your old internet files and get to know that you have been sending money to some people in Nigeria.

The last amount of money you sent to Nigeria was $2800 and that was picked up by the secretary to the CBN governor Mr Oladeji Olakunle, you aslo sent about $1400 and $800 to some people in Lagos Nigeria and happen to be some scam,the only money you sent to Nigeria that was legal was the one you send to Oladeji Olakunle $2800 and which happen to be the secretary to the CBN governor Hon Sanusi Lamido.we also have some reports that you have been sending money to some crooks for the past 3 years to the tune of about $80,000.now ealier today you have some conversation with a man name Harry Jones and Charrie Watkins and all the conversation has been recorded and was save as evidence against you.Mr Harry and he wanted to get you a lawyer with the name barrister Nnamdi happens to be the working with a man name Chalse Soludo the former CBN governor in Nigeria and he is presently in jail,.we tracked Harry Jones jones IP when he was chating with you and he happens to be in Nigeria at that moment and Charrie happens to be in Wyoming.

What you have to do now is to make to stop talking to anyone about this and make sure you dont chat with anyone online, we will give you the id of one of our agent that will be helping to track all the crooks you have chated with online and you must add her on the IM ASAP here is the ID pamgraham1965, now we have information that Mr Glen's Lawyer barrister Ivan will be coming to visit him at the detention facility in Nigeria.

N.B failure to get back to us and let us know how you want to make the payment of $47,000 within 88 days, then a team of 20 mean will sent from our head office in 601 4th street NW Washington D.C 20535 to arrest you or send you an invitation to report yourself before the 15th of this month remember we have you on our internet raider and we are monitoring all you actions.REPLY THIS ASAP.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

$80,000 Oh my God!!

Yes your coding is good

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

when you disguise the e-mail address or name it is better to change a few letters for their number counterpart, eg. i=1 s=5 o=0 g=9 etc, instead of adding in extra numbers, not sure if it makes much of a difference though.

Has she really sent up to $80k? Was it her own money or from fake cheques?

Does she now understand these are all scams?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh yeah, most of it was her money. This has been going on for years.
This is just the second round.
I found out she was doing it a few years ago, but I thought she stopped.
All in all over the years she's sent more than 80k.
I'm just sick about all of this.
Here's the whole story

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=178294

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Should I be coding the names and email addresses or not? I'm unclear on that.


If you want other potential victims to discover them through google searches, you can leave them as they were. Typically, we only obfuscate that sort of thing if there is an ongoing bait and we don't want the scammers to find us.

Does your mother understand now that this has all been a scam? If not, there is more we can do to show her.

Also, I'll second B8er's post. The last thing she needs right now is trouble with the bank. They will probably be more understanding if they learn about this from you instead of from the banks the fake/stolen checks were drawn on.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Good point about the banks. I have to find out from her how many and what banks I need to call. This is just unreal. I keep thinking this just can't really be happening...but it is.

I just called the payday loan place that bought my mom groceries, and thanked the lady repeatedly and told her that I'd come pay her for the groceries, and she said no that it was a gift from her company. And she said that she is really glad that I found out so that now there is someone to help my mom. I gave her my number and told her that I would be taking care of mom's bills from now on and that as soon as I get everything sorted out, I'll be making regular payments to her. Mom's 2 payments behind as of right now. I was actually surprised that the lady gave me so much info., but I'm glad she did. I guess she was just so happy that someone will be paying she didn't care what info she gave out! haha!

On a different note, I think I'm going to start scam baiting myself. I have a little jump start on it since mom has already sent them money. I think it will relieve a little stress jacking with them.
Any ideas?

Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

scrappinsally

I see you have started a thread about this at scamwarners. Please post all the details and some of the early mails your mom receive with out coding (leeting) the names of the scammers or thier email address's. This will help alert others to not become victims. Bless you for helping your Mother.

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You are a goat. And very stupid. I will deal with you very soon, just wait, I have all your contact address, and I will trace you very soon, for insulting me, all evidence of your insult to me has been filed.

Lawyer M4nu3l told me that you could be one of this terrorist in the usa. and I later find out on my research on you, that you are one of the bastards in wherever you are. not even in usa."


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

scrappinsally wrote:
On a different note, I think I'm going to start scam baiting myself. I have a little jump start on it since mom has already sent them money. I think it will relieve a little stress jacking with them.
Any ideas?


Baiting these guys would be great, but please don't step into your mother's shoes to do so. While these guys are probably very far from you and they most likely won't waste time or money to do anything, they know exactly who and where you are, or at least who and where your mother is.

If you want to take a shot at them, do it from a completely anonymous account and don't make any references to this ordeal.

Before embarking on baiting these scammers, you might consider cutting your teeth on some other scammers until you get a feel for what works for you.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh, I forgot about posting to the other site. I'll go post right now.
I'm having trouble finding some of the early emails, she has them in different folders and different names. I'll post what I've found so far.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

you are very right luckey.
I didn't even think about them having all of her info.
Glad you said something before I sent anything.
I guess I got overly excited about wanting to get them back and didn't think first.
Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^
Gotta bait safe! Wink

There's a thread in the hints and tips forum where you can post a request for a mentor who'll help you through a few baits.
Feel free to ask anything you're unsure about in there too. They're quite a friendly crowd in there. So far I haven't managed to annoy them with repeated questions yet. (Still working on that Wink hehe).

Wishing you luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Technomancer! I hope it is sweet!

I have posted all of the names and email addresses that I have come across so far on scamwarners.

I sure hope it helps someone.

Still digging....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

luckey wrote:
Before embarking on baiting these scammers, you might consider cutting your teeth on some other scammers until you get a feel for what works for you.

sally, this is good advice, although their email accounts change over time (and are sometimes terminated by the provider),
so don't leave it too long.
however, please don't hold any hopes that the scammers can be traced or the money recovered.
they use fake names, disposable emails accounts and untraceable phones.
they live in countries where the legal systems are full of corruption, and they 'earn' a lot more than the police.
much as i hate to say it, the best one can expect to do is give them a hard time in a scambait.

one other bit of advice. when scammers know that the victim is wise to the scam,
they sometimes try a 'recovery scam'.
someone might call or email, claiming to be able to return some or all of the lost money.
inevitably, they will ask for a fee first - of course, this is yet another scam.

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I read through the thread and saw a textbook case study of how these scams work. It's obvious that your mother in law was somebody's meal ticket for quite a long time. It's interesting that the scam morphed to outright blackmail.

I think I would like a crack at some of this pond scum. Mad

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

meloncoly wrote:
Not sure how you can fall for the same scam again and again, but these guys need to be mass baited.

+1


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Really sally I am so sorry to have read of this whole bloody mess these scum have dragged you into.
At least you are definitely in the right place here, and your mother is in a good place with you there for her.

I was so disgusted by these despicable ****Y little ****S! It moved me to jump in for my first (well deserved) mass bait.
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Willing to join in on said mass bait here too if an extra pair of hands and devious mind is needed Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks everyone! I'm touched!
Just tell me what to do to get the mass bait going. I'm all in as well.
It really feels great with a whole wall of people behind me!

I do know that none of her money will ever be recovered, and none of them will ever go to jail, or much less get a slap on the hand, but jacking with them will at least make me feel like all of this grief is worth it, and have a little fun in the midst of all of the aggrevation and heartache.

Thanks again, and just let me know how and when to get started. I'm totally new at this, so I seriously practically need a picture drawn out. Very Happy

I was totally exhausted from going through all of her emails, and sitting up two nights in a row worrying about all of this, but now after reading your comments, I'm feeling refreshed and ready to kick some a$$!

You made my evening!
See ya,
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