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w00tz3r
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello all!

Today I received this e-mail on my catcher account. I'm already trying to bait some other scammers, but this one looks pretty interesting for me.

Since I live in Costa Rica I can speak fluent Spanish. I want to play around a little bit with this lad but I'm wondering if he really speaks Spanish. I guess not and he had this translated (some spelling errors inside this mail + some English words).

What is you suggestion to continue with this lad? Continue in Spanish, English or in a Costa Rican 'street language' called Pachuco?

I'm still investigating where this mail originated from, but as I'm writing this my catcher account is unavailable due to maintenance. I will post the IP ASAP.

Code:
 OFICINA DEL DIRECTOR DE LA OPERACIÓN
DEPARTAMENTO DE PAGO ATM (CBN)
Banco Central de Nigeria.
TEL LINE: 234-8032286620
FECHA: 27/08/2009

Señor / Señora,

¡FELICITACIONES! SU pago hayan sido autorizadas (ATM 811)

Usted acaba de ser aprobado de tres millones de dólares ($ 3,000,000.00) en el
curso ATM tarjeta de notificación premio del Banco Central de Nigeria
2009

En vista de esto la cantidad de su aprobación ($ 3,000,000.00)
Estados Unidos tres millones de dólares) este centro de tarjeta
Enviar una tarjeta de cajero automático que se utilizará para retirar su
dinero en cualquier cajero automático en cualquier parte de la world.But la
retirada máximo es de cinco mil dólares por día.

Si desea recibir su fondo de esta manera, se ponen en contacto con nosotros por
enviar el siguiente
  información de:

1. SU NOMBRE COMPLETO
2. TELÉFONO Y FAX
3. DIRECCIÓN WERE YOU

  QUIERO
  A enviar la tarjeta de cajero automático
4. SU EDAD Y LA OCUPACIÓN ACTUAL
5. ADJUNTAR COPIA DE SU IDENTIFICACIÓN


Recuerdos,

MR.GEORGE HARRISON
DIRECTOR, DEPARTAMENTO DE PAGO ATM (CBN)
Línea Telefónica: -some telephone number-


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Madrid is another lad hotspot so it is possible, but it's more likely he's translating ... but as I don't do Spanish I can't tell ....

But what's with
Quote:
3. DIRECCIÓN WERE YOU


and!!!

Quote:
MR. GEORGE HARRISON
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It's most likey a Nigerian lad, using an online translator and sending to spanish speaking email addies. The number is nigerian. Bet he doesn't speak one lick of Spanish. You could call him safely to find out. You can check the headers here to find out where he is:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
parte de la world

A bit of French has crept in too.
Very odd. No translator, human or machine, would do that.
As you speak Spanish, I think you should bait in that language. Especially as he can't. Get him off-script and see how his command of the language holds up.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks all for the quick replies Smile.

I've noted that his IP is from Nigeria:

Code:
inetnum: 77.70.128.0 - 77.70.129.63
netname: COMGEO-S1-5-LAGOS
descr: Comgeo Services, site #1-5
country: NG
admin-c: JCH70-RIPE
tech-c: JCH70-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
remarks: ---------------
remarks: T-IP-20070402
remarks: ---------------
mnt-by: TAIDE-NOC
source: RIPE # Filtered

person: Jude Chohwoka
address: Hartcourt White Street
address: Ikenegbu Layout, Imo state
address: Nigeria
e-mail: [email protected]
phone: +234 806 110 1381
fax-no: +234 83 233 319
nic-hdl: JCH70-RIPE
source: RIPE # Filtered


I think I'll fire a couple of Spanish e-mails (from a new e-mail address that I need to create, in order to play a Spanish character). First I'll start with messages that he can translate so he will respond (hopefully). When we are in business and he doesn't do it my way I will get angry in the local dialect so he has no idea what I'm talking about Smile.

About calling him: will be funny, since I don't speak a word english Wink. On the other hand: I don't want to spend my money on a guy like this and calling from here to Nigeria is not cheap, even when using Skype.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My experience as well is that they don't speaka the language. I've had "Spanish" bankers who didn't understand a lick of the language. Just keep responding in Spanish and let them spend time using the translator. And don't forget...you have a hard time understanding English.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mr Tambourine Man wrote:
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parte de la world

A bit of French has crept in too.
Very odd. No translator, human or machine, would do that.
As you speak Spanish, I think you should bait in that language. Especially as he can't. Get him off-script and see how his command of the language holds up.


Are you sure? I think he was trying to say that you could withdraw money from anywhere in the world. But why wouldn't the translator say, "Parte del mundo" instead of leaving "world" untranslated?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

w00tz3r said:
Quote:
About calling him: will be funny, since I don't speak a word english . On the other hand: I don't want to spend my money on a guy like this and calling from here to Nigeria is not cheap, even when using Skype.


The Ghost From Germany and I did this to a lad, Don Steady in Audio forum, and it was hilarious. He went nuts trying to understand the MTCN in German. Get your lad to the hooked payment stage, and I can do it for you in Spanish. Just signup for skype, and send me a PM when you are ready, if you want to to do it. I have Skype and I don't mind picking up the tab and waking up a lad on a funny modality. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crying or Very sad

Im still waiting a spanish-spoken lad!!!

BTW Im from Central America, too! Very Happy Very Happy Razz

I think he used a translator... bait him in spanish, use your "pachuco" language and tell him in a perfect spanish that you are gonna send the money Razz ..

Make sure he understands perfectly the payment part, so he can see your interest instead of your demands. Very Happy Razz

Good luck!!! Dont forget to post it !!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@SlapHappy: thanks for your offer! Let's see if I can get him to call you, or you calling him, to have some fun with him Smile.

@Ana: you are more then welcome helping me with this lad. Let me see if I get a respons and I'll get you in the loop. If you want to you can also try to bait him yourself Wink. It's not a bait that I own and the more Spanish replies he get the better Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ jump_4_joy jump_4_joy Mr. Green Sounds great to me!! Thank you!!!

I will wait till him writes you back! Very Happy In the meantime, maybe you can give me his e mail address!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

(I keep it English here so everybody can follow it)

Ana, the mail was sent from -mail address-, but in the mail itzelf he also refers to -another address-. I've send mail replies to both addresses.

Here is what I wrote him, just to make sure you won't write the same Wink:

Code:
Estimado Sr. H4rr1s0n,

Estoy sumamente sorprendido de haber recibido este correo! Nunca he ido a Nigeria ni tampoco utilizado el ATM allá. Pero estoy increiblemente feliz por el premio que gané! Me podría explicar como es esto posible? Estoy muy interesado en recibir este premio lo antes posible!

Gracias de antemano,
P3dr0 V4lv3rd3


Translation:

Code:
Dear mr. H4rr1s0n,

I'm very suprised to see your e-mail. I've never been in Nigeria and never used an ATM there. Still I'm very happy that I won this prize! Can you please explain me how this is possible? I'm interested in receiving this prize as soon as possible.

Thanks in advance,
P3dr0 V4lv3rd3


I've insterted the letters so the names won't appear in Google.

Have fun, and please keep me updated as well Smile.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I just sent my first letter to him. Wish me luck. ill post later his answer. Lol

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've got an answer in my mailbox:

Code:
querida,
He recibido su correo electrónico y estaba bien señalado.
Me pondré en contacto pronto.


Clearly from a translator. I'm curious why I received an answer like this (he's telling that he will get back to me soon) instead of a 'normal' answer. Perhaps he's looking for a translator?

I'll give this lad a call later today (at a very inconvenient time for him) to check his Spanish. I've had some great help yesterday evening and feel confident enough to do this (using Skype).

Edit: forgot the tell that he addressed me as a girl, while my character "P3dr0" is clearly a guy...


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sad

He answered me in English

Image

Im gonna write him in spanish, again Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Ana: your reply came 5 minutes after mine. The text is *exactly* the same, just translated into Spanish for me.

@All my fellow baiters: should I respond and look like I can't wait to collect my prize or is it better to relax and wait for his answer?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I told him that i didnt understand a word he said Smile Hes gonna HAVE TO write me in Spanish!!

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One of my characters (Horse and Cart Smile ), is Latvian but living in England

He, has, of englishes poor, and, of not speakinges the englishes, goodly.
Tellyphone, I of not use well in englisghes.

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Itcheedik J0hn 3dward!

Is, of Yusuf Bello, of not being withe you?

Kastuspeļi ga iepirkšakās un nogirkt avīzci !!! ***
I, of in shiocke large.
I, of worry, of about this yusuf bello. yes.
If, of he not workinges for you, how, he of gettinhg, of my emailings addresse?
Is, he of badde personne?

I, of writings to him of tellings to him I, of withe you.
He, will, of going away from, of me now. I, of being surre of this.

Crabeepubes to you
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

After I teased him a little bit by telling that I'm very happy with the prize because I just invested $100.000 in a real estate project (so he thinks I'm a wealthy person) and asked when I can collect my money he came up with this (again horribly translated) answer.

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mi querida He recibido tu correo y te entiendo.

Como se vio en el mail que le enviamos a principios de este dinero de ustedes fue aprobada legalmente por el gobierno de Nigeria.
por lo que es en el documento adjunto es la letra de la aprobación del gobierno de Nigeria.
todos se fueron para usted ahora que hacer es que nos diga cuando va a llegar a África y recoger su tarjeta de cajero automático con su carta de aprobación del Gobierno de Nigeria, pero si usted no puede venir a Nigeria decirnos lo que debemos saber qué hacer .


Attached was a document from the government of Nigeria. Unfortunately (for him) it was in English, so he needs to translate that for me Smile. Let's hope he's willing to do that. As long as I play rich and willing, do you fellow baiters think he will do this?

@Ana: how's your bait going?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

He just send me the same first response... but in spanish, as i asked him Very Happy

We will see!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

He's playing along nicely so far for you. Very Happy
@w00tzer - He will probably have trouble getting a Spanish version of his scamming proficiency certificate or whatever document he sent you, so my guess is you'll end up with your name on a marriage licence from Chile. Wink Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ This is what i did Very Happy . He sent me exactly the same that he sent to w00tzer. I think im gonna tell him that i will make a travel to Africa soon to get my ATM, after all, he told me to choose one of the two options Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Perhaps you could have misunderstood him and travel to Niger instead of Nigeria.. I am sure that for a willing and naive victim he could make the trip Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The lad really thinks he has some big fish I think because yesterday I didn't bother to answer him and today I received 2 messages containing the word 'URGENT'.

I didn't give any clue about going to Nigeria or not (as Ana wrote: he gave both options) but I did tell him that I don't speak any Spanish. He has to translate the document for me.

The money is no problem, since I will pay with my new ATM card Wink.

Let's wait and see what his next answer will be. Does anyone have experience with a 'duo bait'? Perhaps Ana and I can work something out together to keep the lad even more busy. Maybe we should both travel to Nigeria (ofcourse, without knowing from eachother). Any tips?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Duo baits are quite common. Just work out the details with your partner. One baiter pulls him one way, another baiters pulls him another way. If you're both travelling to Nigeria, make sure the dates are the same, but the cities are not. Maybe he'll have to recruit some lad friends to handle two victims at the same time.

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