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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This site claims to be a green card lottery that requires advanced fees to enter. The real green card lottery does not require a fee. I will kill it when it gets a DB entry. The site claims to be in America, however, they are asking for payment via WU in Cyprus Pounds.

Fake site http://www.usagc.org

Fake site page requiring advanced fee to enter lottery http://www.usagc.org/fullUnion1.aspx

Real Site www.dvlottery.state.gov

IP address 74.54.151.212

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Domain ID:D103518601-LROR
Domain Name:USAGC.ORG
Created On:20-Dec-2003 17:03:05 UTC
Last Updated On:24-May-2008 11:27:13 UTC
Expiration Date:20-Dec-2012 17:03:05 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-09048040
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
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Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:GODA-29048040
Admin Name:Registration Private
Admin Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Admin Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
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Admin City:Scottsdale
Admin State/Province:Arizona
Admin Postal Code:85260
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.4806242599
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Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:GODA-19048040
Tech Name:Registration Private
Tech Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Tech Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
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Tech City:Scottsdale
Tech State/Province:Arizona
Tech Postal Code:85260
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.4806242599
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Tech Email:[email protected]
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BluthBanana
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Unfortunately these green card lottery sites are a dime a dozen...

http://www.usgreencardlottery.org/
http://www.americagreencard.org/
http://www.usafis.org/
http://www.myusgreencard.com/
http://www.usagreencardlottery.org/

I don't believe we deal with these types of sites here, as dodgy as they might be.


Edit to add:

I was looking at their main page and found this:

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Participation is FREE. We, at the USAGC Organization, charge for the professional and expertise service we give you. Our professional service includes: application service, information check, correcting of wrong or invalid data, support in different languages, correct completion of the application, and submission of the application on time and to the correct address.


Not something I'd ever do if I was looking to enter the green card lottery, but I don't know as I could clearly call it fraudulent since they are offering their services for your fee.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This is a tricky one. Bucaneer's site appears to be asking for WU payments while the others are asking for credit cards, making it look even scammier . . . but I still don't think these are something we'll deal with here because they aren't something that will come up on a bait, and it will be hard to prove any evidence of advance fee fraud.

There is a thread that involves this domain at aa419.org: http://forum.aa419.org/viewtopic.php?t=25469&highlight=usagc

I'm posting this here for the benefit of anyone reading and have expressed this to bucaneer in PM. My suggestion is to go next door or ask Artemis to find out if these types of sites are something that aa419.org will investigate and deal with. I don't think it's something that we'll be working on here for the reasons stated above. I'll move this thread off to Misc. scams in a bit.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't think aa419 likes dealing with these either.

There are many sites that just border on the legal side of a thin line. They offer a useless service but are not fraudulent. The green card lottery falls into this category as well as online shops and loan facilitators.

My advice is to move on and kill the 419 scam sites Smile (aa419 has over 800 waiting to be killed)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for weighing in Artemis. I'll move this over to misc. scams now.

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