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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not from Hong Kong

person: Oscar Pantoja Garcia
address: Vodafone
address: Parque Empresarial Castellana Norte
address: 28050 Madrid
address: Spain
phone: +34 610517463
nic-hdl: OPG2-RIPE

Dear Friend,

I am Dr.Cheunge Eric Li non-executive Chairman of Hang Seng Bank Ltd, Hong Kong.

An Iraqi named Haider Hanoon,a business man made a numbered fixed deposit of Forty Four million Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notice was sent to him, even during the war, Five years ago (2003). Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later found out that Haider Hanoon and his family had been killed during the war in Gunfire that hit their home at Mukaradeeb where his personal oil-well was.

After further investigation it was also discovered that Haider Hanoon did not declare any next of kin in his official papers including the paper work of his bank deposit. And he also confided in me the last time he was at my office that no one except me knew of his deposit in my bank. So, Forty Four million Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars is still lying in my bank and no one will ever come forward to claim it. What bothers me is that according to the laws of my country at the expiration seven years six months the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds.

Be informed that the fact that you are a foreigner gives you the priviledge to stand in as my deceased client beneficiary as my deceased had no relation all his family died with him during the war and i can not use my relation because its no accepted here in Hong Kong. Also I am very confident that we will be able to establish the trust that is needed to complete this deal and all that I need for the time been is your willingness and commitment so that we can end this in the next one weeks.I like to inform you that I got your email account from my country commerce center.

What you need to understand about this transaction is that I will make sure that it passes through all international banking laws regards to this I will take care of all the expenses and the cost of retaining the service of my Attorney to give the transaction the proper documentation that is required to perfect the finishing.Your only obligation in this transaction is to accept to stand in as the only existing relative of my deceased client and you will have to set up offshore account that can accomodate these funds with my principal bank which I will give you information later once we finalize this deal.

Further more I sending you my personal information.. below;
Name: Dr.Cheunge Eric Li
Address:Garfield Robbins International, Location: Hong Kong.
Mobile No: +8821633303563
Working Identity Card Number:NO:839/H/10. Also see attachment for a copy.

I hope that the above is well clear to you,if so kindly send me the following;
1. Your Full Name
2. Your Current Home Address
3. Your Personal Phone Number
4. Occupation
5. A scanned copy of your means of identification Either International Passport,Driver's License or Working ID card.

Mind you your names and address will be use by my Attorney to prepare the needed documents that will back you up as the sole beneficiary of my deceased client funds while I shall contact you with your phone number for further discussions.

Once again thanks for your interest and willingness to partner with me in pulling out my late client funds from my bank,I am
anticipating to reading from you
very soon.

Dr.Cheunge Eric Li

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello all, I am new to baiting but I have just started one similar to the OP.

This is my first reply to his original Email. I have assumed the identity of Deacon Marinara, a Pastafarian that sits on a board of trustees with the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Mr. Wan,

Have you already recieved help with this most frustrating transaction? Perhaps my church can be of service.


Deacon Marinara

-----Original Message-----
From: JOHN WAN <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 2:53 pm

Dear friend,

Greetings to you and your family, I am a staff of Private Banking Services at
the Bank of China (BOC). I am contacting you concerning our customer and, an
investment placed under our banks management 3 years ago.

I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail
confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come by as a
result of this mail. I contacted you independently of our investigation and no
one is informed of this communication. I would like to intimate you with certain
facts that I believe would be of interest to

In 2002, the subject matter; ref: bb/boc/bank/0012 came to our bank to engage in
business discussions with our Private Banking Services Department. He informed
us that he had a financial portfolio of 8.375 million United States Dollars,
which he wished to have us turn over (invest) on his behalf.

I was the officer assigned to his case; I made numerous suggestions in line with
my duties as the de-facto chief operations officer of the Private Banking
Services Department, especially given the volume of funds he wished to put into
our bank. We met on numerous occasions prior to any investments being placed. I
encouraged him to consider various growth funds with prime ratings. The favored
route in my advice to customers is to start by assessing data on 6000
traditional stocks and bond managers and 2000 managers of alternative
investments. Based on my advice, we spun the money around various opportunities
and made attractive margins for our first months of operation, the accrued
profit and interest stood at this point at over 10 million United States
this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk
guaranteed returns on investments.

In mid 2004, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an
urgent investment requiring cash payments in Europe. He directed that I
liquidate the funds and had it deposited with a firm. I informed him that the
bank would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not
to circumvent due process, the bank would have to make a 9.5 % deduction from
the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges. He complained about the
charges but later came around when I explained to him the complexities of the
task he was asking of us. Cash movement across borders has become especially
strict since the incident of 9/11. I contacted my affiliate in and had the funds

I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions
to the letter and had the funds deposited in a security consultancy firm, the
firm is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net worth
individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or
undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly
private organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and
well-connected organizations. In line with instructions, the money was
deposited. He told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival
from Norway later that week. This was the last communication we had, this
transpired around 9th October 2004.

In January this year, we got a call from the security firm informing us that the
inactivity of that particular portfolio. This was an astounding position as far
as I was concerned, given the fact that I managed the private banking sector I
was the only one who knew about the deposit , and I could not understand why he
had not come forward to claim his
deposit. I made futile efforts to locate him I immediately passed the task of
locating him to the internal investigations department of the bank of china.
Four days later, information started to trickle in, apparently he was dead. A
person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart attack in Canne,
South of France. We were soon enough able to identify the body and cause of
death was confirmed.

The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving next of
kin to alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim his estate.
If you are familiar with private banking affairs, those who patronize our
services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of detachment from
conventional processes. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In the
field of private banking, opening an account with us means no one will know of
its existence, accounts are rarely held under a name; depositors use numbers and
codes to make the accounts anonymous. This bank also gives the choice to
depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank itself,
ensuring that there are no traces of the account and as I said, rarely do they
nominate next of kin. Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of
kin also usually in most cases leave wills in our care, in this case; he died

In line with our internal processes for account holders who have passed away, we
instituted our own investigations in good faith to determine who should have
right to claim the estate. This investigation has for the past months been
unfruitful. We have scanned every continent and used our private investigation
affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. The investigation did not
ever yield any result My official capacity dictates that I am the only party to
supervise the investigation and the only party to receive the results of the

This leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the prevailing
situation is in relation to the deposit and the late beneficiary of the deposit.
According to practice, the firm will by the end of this financial year broadcast
a request for statements of claim to BOC, failing to receive viable claims they
will most probably revert the deposit back to BOC. This will result in the money
entering the BOC accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my hands and
out of the Private Banking Services Department. This will not happen if I have
my way.

What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethical practice but I want you to
understand something. It is only an outsider to the banking world who finds the
internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private
banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those who occupy certain
offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put
together the general direction of what I propose. There is US$ 8,375,000.00
deposited, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to
no one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this
deposit for as far as BOC is concerned, the transaction with our deceased
customer concluded when I sent the funds to the firm, all outstanding
interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due process.

They are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to any party that
comes forward. This is the situation. This bank has spent great amounts of money
trying to track this man's family; they have investigated for months and have
found no family. The investigation has come to an end.

My proposal; I am prepared to place you in a position to give instruction for
the release of the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation. Upon
receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the money with you in half. That
is: I will simply nominate you as the
next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. We share the proceeds
50/50. I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be released to me, but that
would have drawn a straight line to me and my involvement in claiming the
deposit. I assure you that I could have the deposit released to you within a few
days. I will simply inform the bank of the final closing of the file relating to
the customer I will then officially communicate with the firm and instruct
them to release the deposit to you. With these two things: all is done. The
alternative would be for us to have the firm direct the funds to another bank
with you as account holder. This way there will be no need for you to think of
receiving the money from the firm. We can fine-tune this based on our

I am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no
interest in this project that you should discard this mail. I ask that you do
not be vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete
this message and forget I ever contacted you. Do not destroy my career because
you do not approve of my proposal. You may not know this but people like myself
who have made tidy sums out of
comparable situations run the whole private banking sector. I am not a criminal
and what I do, I do not find against good conscience, this may be hard for you
to understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this move.

Such opportunities only come ones' way once in a lifetime. I cannot let this
chance pass me by, for once I find myself in total control of my destiny. These
chances won't pass me by. I ask that you do not destroy my chance, if you will
not work with me let me know and let me move on with my life but do not destroy
me. I am a family man and this is an opportunity to provide them with new
opportunities. There is a reward for this project and it is a task well worth
undertaking. I have evaluated the risks and the only risk I have here is from
you refusing to work with me and alerting my bank. I am the only one who knows
of this situation, good fortune has blessed you with a name that has planted you
into the center of relevance in my life. Let's share the blessing.

If you find yourself able to work with me, contact me through this same email
account. If you give me positive signals, I will initiate this process towards a
conclusion. I wish to inform you that should you contact me via official
channels; I will deny knowing you and about this project. I repeat, I do not
want you contacting me through my official phone lines nor do I want you
contacting me through my official email account. Contact me only through this
email address. I do not want any direct link between you and me. My official
lines are not secure lines as they are periodically monitored to assess our
level of customer care in line with our Total Quality Management Policy.

Please observe this instruction religiously. Please, again, note I am a family
man; I have a wife and children. I send you this mail not without a measure of
fear as to what the consequences, but I know within me that nothing ventured is
nothing gained and that success and riches never come easy or on a platter of
gold. This is the one truth I have learned from my private banking clients. Do
not betray my confidence.

Best regards,

John wan
His Bio:[/b]

I want to thank you very much for attention to this matter. I will like to
welcome this lasting relationship with a brief introduction of my person. I will
also want you to please respond back in a like manner because it is important
that I know in totality the personality upon whom I transact this deal with. You
should understand my fears here as this involves a large sum of cash not stock.

John Wan II is a subject of biographical record in Chinese Who's Who
Publications inclusion in which is limited to individuals who have demonstrated
outstanding achievement in their own fields of endeavor and who have thereby
contributed significantly to the betterment of contemporary society.

Occupation: international business executive, educator, author, banker

Born: February 26, 1950


AA in Econs., Wenatchee Valley College, 1970 USVI,University Virgin Islands,
1971 BA in Philosophy and Psychology, Central Washington University, 1972 MA in
Philosophy, Washington State University, 1974 Various marketing diplomas,
University Hawaii, 1989 DBA, Newport University, Utah and Beijing, 1997


Corp. manager, training director Colwell Bankers-Davenport Inc., Wenatchee,
Washington,1977-81; vice president sales and marketing John's Real Estate and
Securities Corp., Bellevue, 1981-82; president, founder Aero-Brokers Inc.,
Honolulu, 1983-86; general manager Tadashi & Sons Ltd., Truk Islands, 1987;
CEO,administrative and fin. manager Zorro's Pizza and Italian Restaurants,
Honolulu, 1988; gen manager Coast Enterprises of Hawaii Inc., 1990; Bank of
China till date. Bank of China shenzhen, Bank of China Beijing and Bank of China


Married Ivy Zhong Yu Xu, November 1991. I have a daughter in accordance with the
Chinese birth control laws.


Roman Catholic


23 Jianshe Lu,
Shenzhen 518001 R.O.C


90 Cannon St, London, EC4N 6HT

TEL: +44 7011 129654

FAX: +44 870 068 1002

Attached on email, is my International passport

I will be awaiting your response.

Best regards,


He sent me an ID, but I have not figured out how to post it yet. He wants an ID from me and wants me to set up an offshore account to transfer the money to in increments. "John" states all clearance fees will be paid by them.

I have had him restate the offer in a bullet point and he has answered my questions thus far although I am pretty sure he is in copy/paste mode.

Can anybody offer suggestions on the ID part? I set up a K7 number and gave it to him. I have also asked for additional pics of him with his family. I doubt I will get them since he claims to be an Asian in London.

[b]Here is one of my responses to him so far:[/b]

Good Day Mr. Wang,

Whew! That was tought to read. Your command of the english is impressive but I have difficulty understanding your prose and dialect. Please, if you do not mind, exlain a little more clearly the details of this transaction--banking info, clearance fees, the transaction amount, how it is to be divided.

You must understand that the board of trustees is made up of people from different nations all with different levels of English between them. If I am to present the details of our transaction to them tomorrow, it must be simplified. Use bullet points, I you would, send the details as a Word document attachment along with a copy of your ID. I could not open the other one. A photo of your family would go along way as well. The board of trustees is very family oriented.

Please send this today as we meet early tomorrow as we a introducing overseas assistance budgets. If I am unable to present this tomorrow, we will not reconvene until after the Independence Day holiday.

May you be blessed by his noodley appendeges.


Deacon Marinara.

PS, I have attached the church logo for you to use on the return documents. Please do not lose it as it is sacred to us. This logo MUST be used on all communications. You may call me at 206.350.2544 if you have any questions.

Go in pasta.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Wan <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2009 3:40 pm

Dear Friend,

Thank you very much for your email response and your enthusiasm to assist me in
this project. I have exhaustively considered your response today and I am
satisfied that you have an understanding of the need for absolute secrecy in
this pending project, hence my firm belief that I can count on your total
support and confidentiality. I would proceed without any reservation to bring
you into the complete picture of this transaction. Before doing this, I would
again like to reiterate the importance of confidentiality, as I am career
bankers who is still in active service and would not like my names to be brought
to odium or my long tenure in office jeopardized.

In searching for a God fearing and reliable partner for the purpose of this
transaction, I have contacted you personally not as a matter of choice but of
necessity knowing full well, the monetary policies as regards funds transfer
especially after the event of September 11th in America.

I will be fully conscious in the pursuit of this project to make sure that we do
not go against any local or international laws of funds transfer. You must
understand that I am a family man and presently still serving here in the Bank
of China. What I intend doing is to have your details that is your full name as
documented, your telephone and fax numbers to contact you on as regards the
transfer, your physical contact address, your age and also any possible

With these, I should be able to place together all documentation in your name to
prove to the authority that you are truly the next of kin/beneficiary to the
estate and I will also have the probate letter signed at the Court of China. As
soon as all these are done and ratification exercise takes place which we must
surely scale through as I will make a lot of under the table arrangement here, I
will place an application of claim in your name for the release of the funds. As
soon as we have concluded with this arrangement using an international clearing
agent, you will then have to open up a separate bank account in your name and
you alone have to be the signatory. This bank wills serve as an intermediary
between your bank and the BOC. The aim of the intermediary bank is to receive
the funds from the BOC and from there you can have the entire funds transferred
bit by bit into any of your chosen bank account in your country. With this
arrangement, even if
there has to be a loop hole in what we have done so far the funds cannot be
traced. These special banks which I will introduce to you are specialized in
this aspect. They assist business men alike who do not want the heavy load of
tax to eat into their fund, they also assist government official in taking our
funds out of our country without due attention from any authority. You will get
to know more about this once we have both accepted to be partners in this
venture. This will be your responsibility and I will have to perfect the rest
of the arrangement here. The account you have are account from regular banks
they cannot serve the purpose here. You will begin to understand and appreciate
this idea once we have commenced process on this transaction. It is all going to
be a bank to bank affair you do not need to worry in as much as you follow my
words as religiously as possible.

I will also like to know more about your biography to further increase my level
of trust and confidence in you as I am afraid that anyone can make away with my
entire funds once it gets to his/her possession. I want you to please make me
believe in you that you will not let me down. I am a gentleman of honor who has
this opportunity and will not let it go having worked in this sector for several
years. This is my only opportunity and I will not toy with it. I will also
assure you that I know what I am doing and to the best of my knowledge, the
entire project is legitimate and very risk free in as much as we observe high
level of confidentiality and treat this matter accordingly with the two of us
sharing ideas and not missing words.

If you have further knowledge on how we can go about this matter let us then
open the room for discussion and let us deal with this matter totally.

I will await further response from you.

Best regards,

John Wan.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Good to have you in these sites Highlander.

I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail

People believe this kind of stuff,specially those who get at the first time this kind of mails.
They are living in their own safety world,and can´t imagine that there is maybe an intruder,who is trying to upset their life with these kind of things.

Quite long story from John Wan,but obviously a fake.

Try to get some closer details from this scammer.
Your email was a mass email,just send yours back,and ask questions,simple one´s,

Please,read stickers.
Use quotes and tools when writing.
Take it easy and have fun
Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This is a standard NOK 419 scam.

If you are offering it to others for baiting, please post it (with full headers if possible) in Surplus.

If you have started baiting and are looking for assistance/feedback, then it should be in Scambaiting Help, Hints, and Tips. If you ask the mods nicely, I bet they would move it there.

It won't get the needed attention here in miscellaneous, as miscellaneous is not for standard 419's and many members don't come in here very often.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Wellcome Highlander to these sites.

Read stickies very well,use quotes so everything is going well.
Have a nice time with us,sometimes hard maybe,but you will learn.
And one advice to you,ask a mentor,s/he will help you through this

Have a nice journey and enjoy. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This thread is getting about one post a month (and each subsequent post has less to do with the OP), which is not really helping anyone, so let's just lock it shall we?


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