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Frankie2
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Here is a possible scam where a small company looking for a stay at home employee in the U.S. I've seen alot of scam like this one before but what makes this really unique was that everything about this seemed reasonable. Reasonable pay, reasonable duties, reasonable expectations.

The Company is called ZIE.Com or ZIE LTD

You get goaded back and forth through emails until finally you see this.


Quote:
Thank you for your email. To answer your questions, As for what I do, I do business as ZIE Ltd. I organize conference, seminars, tradeshows with group of partners. ZIE Ltd also engages in Marketing, Advertising, Consultancy and ForEx/Stock management.
I will send you all the materials you need to carry out the duties. I am planning to set up a business account basically for this purpose when I return to the states, I normally return to the United States every 5-6 months. We'll meet when I return so as to get to know each other one on one.Aside my private business, I am a registered US Government contractor and grantee. You can check on my business profile with DUNS. My D-U-N-S Number is 211220928. You can check on www.zie.com later, the website is currently being upgraded.
My phone numbers is +44 7035928769 and ZIE Ltd is located at 5 St John's Hill, Wandsworth, Greater London, UK

Hope you are doing good, It is the 21st century, and the business industry is becoming more demanding by the second. Business owners need to be flexible,present, and accommodating to the needs of their customers, clients and partners.In order to meet these demands, the business owner must double book their calendar; extend their normal business hours, while trying to squeeze in time to do all of the administrative duties. So this is the major reason why I need a reliable and sincere assistant, to enable me achieve and give the best to my business..
All you need to do for me is to get payments from my clients in the states, you will also have to make payments to my partners when necessary.
These are the lists of my partners around the world;
................................................
Contact 1: Shirley Sweet
Contact 2: Lenora Stevens
430 Oak Street
Vancouver.
BC V6H 3V4
Canada
................................................
Name : Adele Lankford
City : Cottage Hills
State : IL
Zipcode : 62018
.................................................. ..
Contact: Lateefah Al-Jahra
11023 Dasma 35151
New Dar Al-Shifa
Kuwait
.................................................. ...
Contact: Ms. Dianna Melamed
215 Cape Road,
Mill Park, P.E. 6001,
South Africa.
.................................................. ...
Contact: Stephanie Zucker Mrs.
Heidelberglaan 100 - E.01.334
3584 CX Utrecht
the Netherlands
.................................................. ...
Contact 1: Olukunle Okebule
Contact 2: Cynthia Mantebea
9 Dome st.
St. John, Accra
Ghana 233001
.................................................. ...
Contact: Tony Lindeberg
Building 49, 9th floor
Kerpener Str. 34
D - 50931
Cologne
Germany
.................................................. ..
Contact: Harriet Jin
15C, Guangdong Development Bank Tower
557 Xujiahui Road
Shanghai 200023 , China
.................................................. ..
Contact: Philip Hung
15/F, 148 Battery Street,
Yau Ma Tei,
KLN
Hong kong
.................................................. ..
Name : Cynthia Mantebea
Address : 172 Abeka Lapaz Road.
City :Accra
Zipcode : 23321
Country : Ghana
.................................................. ..

I will let you know if there is any updates you need to know and also let me have your full name, phone number and your full postal address as some of my clients are ready to make their payments. Will you be able to cash bank checks?
Best Regards.
Terry
+44 7035928769



Which is sending major red flags up. But the thing is that the company looks legit. The website is not built but he says its under registration. I cannot seem to find anything about them.

You can read the whole exchange here
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A couple of red flags for it

  • There is no limited company called Zie Ltd on the Companies House register - therefore it is not a UK Ltd Company.
  • The phone number is a UK redirect number.
  • It mentions cashing cheques - sounds like a payment scam to me.

The D-U-N-S number appears to be something to do with Dun and Bradshaw. I'm trying to do a search on it.

EDIT: Found a D&B site that allowed searching of D-U-N-S numbers and Zie did come up. However, I'm not sure about what the application process for getting a number is.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A couple of other notes that would lead me to believe it's a scam: the letter is written with some of the typical errors we'd expect from a scammer of West African origin; the claimed company apparently does lots of different things - organizing conferences and trade shows and advertising and forex/securities management; and there's 3 different contacts in Ghana but only one in the United States - does Ghana have so many conferences, seminars, and trade shows that this company needs 3 people there but only 1 in the US?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am receiving the same email...only the guy claims to be from a company called Global Network Ventures Ltd. The emails are almost identical. Guess that pretty much proves it is a scam.

Hello,
Good to hear from you again. I hope you understand that this is a work from home position. This is a flexible position, you are to create your schedule and set you own pace but I will definitely not need more than 20 hours/week. I do business as Global Network Ventures Ltd, I organize conference, seminars, tradeshows with group of partners. GNV also engages in Marketing, Advertising, Consultancy and ForEx/Stock management. Aside my private business, I am a registered US Government contractor and grantee. You have two options of getting paid; either by direct deposit or check which is a single monthly payment.

This is a breakdown of what I need you to do;

1. Receive and process payments from my clients.
2. Make payments to my partners when necessary.
3. Send brochures, proposals, journals and bulletins to my clients.
4. Keying data into a database used to create quarterly and annual reports.
5. Assisting with the coordination and compiling materials and sending client communications.
6. Creating Purchase Orders, Invoices, Excel spreadsheets, Inventory Reports.
7. Maintain and compile legal, and administrative records.
8. Write official letters, reports, and personal correspondence.
9. I will send to you, all materials in due time and names and addresses of companies to send the materials to, postage will be taken care of.
Feel free to ask more questions if any. I'll keep you posted and let me if you are still interested in this position.
Best regards.
James

Benefits includes;
• Stable, competitive base salary plus bonus opportunities
• Three weeks Paid Time Off yearly (Vacation, Holiday )
• Extremely affordable medical/dental coverage
• Direct deposit
• And much more...



Hello,
Good to hear from you and how are you doing today? Hope you are doing good, It is the 21st century, and the business industry is becoming more demanding by the second. Business owners need to be flexible,present, and accommodating to the needs of their customers, clients and partners.
In order to meet these demands, the business owner must double book their calendar; extend their normal business hours, while trying to squeeze in time to do all of the administrative duties. So this is the major reason why I need a reliable and sincere assistant, to enable me achieve and give the best to my business.
These are the lists of my partners around the world;
................................................
Contact 1: Shirley Sweet
Contact 2: Lenora Stevens
430 Oak Street
Vancouver.
BC V6H 3V4
Canada
....................................................
Contact: Lateefah Al-Jahra
11023 Dasma 35151
New Dar Al-Shifa
Kuwait
.....................................................
Contact: Ms. Dianna Melamed
215 Cape Road,
Mill Park, P.E. 6001,
South Africa.
.....................................................
Contact: Stephanie Zucker Mrs.
Heidelberglaan 100 - E.01.334
3584 CX Utrecht
the Netherlands
.....................................................
Contact 1: Olukunle Okebule
Contact 2: Abiodun Martins
9 Dome st.
St. John, Accra
Ghana 233001
.....................................................
Contact: Tony Lindeberg
Building 49, 9th floor
Kerpener Str. 34
D - 50931
Cologne
Germany
....................................................
Contact: Harriet Jin
15C, Guangdong Development Bank Tower
557 Xujiahui Road
Shanghai 200023 , China
....................................................
Contact: Philip Hung
15/F, 148 Battery Street,
Yau Ma Tei,
KLN
Hong kong
....................................................
I will let you know if there is any updates you need to know. I need you to confirm your full name, phone number and your full postal address as some of my clients are ready to make their payments. Will you be able to cash bank checks?
Best Regards.
James
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

All of my emails were from a man named "Brad Pinto" email [email protected]

I know it is hard to find a job right now but please don't fall for these people's scams! I hope no one has gotten hurt from this yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The domain has been registered for 10 years, it expires in sept 2009.

Quote:
Record expires on 12-Sep-2009
Record created on 12-Sep-1999
Database last updated on 12-Sep-2008


You would think that in 10 years they would have been able to establish full DNS (that is to say get a proper company email address)

Why after 10 years are they using gmail?

Another question is why is a UK company registering a domain using a US Address?

Quote:
Wachs, Dane

P.O. Box 64520
Tucson, AZ85728
US

So why a PO Box number and not a physical address? is it because PO Boxes can remain largely anonymous?

Quote:
Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Wachs, Dane
[email protected]
P.O. Box 64520
Tucson, AZ85728
US
Phone: (800) 760-0698


Its a check mule scam, pure and simple.
The give away is here
Quote:
Will you be able to cash bank checks?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've already receive a check from them, what would happen if I cash it?


Frankie2 wrote:
Here is a possible scam where a small company looking for a stay at home employee in the U.S. I've seen alot of scam like this one before but what makes this really unique was that everything about this seemed reasonable. Reasonable pay, reasonable duties, reasonable expectations.

The Company is called ZIE.Com or ZIE LTD

You get goaded back and forth through emails until finally you see this.


Quote:
Thank you for your email. To answer your questions, As for what I do, I do business as ZIE Ltd. I organize conference, seminars, tradeshows with group of partners. ZIE Ltd also engages in Marketing, Advertising, Consultancy and ForEx/Stock management.
I will send you all the materials you need to carry out the duties. I am planning to set up a business account basically for this purpose when I return to the states, I normally return to the United States every 5-6 months. We'll meet when I return so as to get to know each other one on one.Aside my private business, I am a registered US Government contractor and grantee. You can check on my business profile with DUNS. My D-U-N-S Number is 211220928. You can check on www.zie.com later, the website is currently being upgraded.
My phone numbers is +44 7035928769 and ZIE Ltd is located at 5 St John's Hill, Wandsworth, Greater London, UK

Hope you are doing good, It is the 21st century, and the business industry is becoming more demanding by the second. Business owners need to be flexible,present, and accommodating to the needs of their customers, clients and partners.In order to meet these demands, the business owner must double book their calendar; extend their normal business hours, while trying to squeeze in time to do all of the administrative duties. So this is the major reason why I need a reliable and sincere assistant, to enable me achieve and give the best to my business..
All you need to do for me is to get payments from my clients in the states, you will also have to make payments to my partners when necessary.
These are the lists of my partners around the world;
................................................
Contact 1: Shirley Sweet
Contact 2: Lenora Stevens
430 Oak Street
Vancouver.
BC V6H 3V4
Canada
................................................
Name : Adele Lankford
City : Cottage Hills
State : IL
Zipcode : 62018
.................................................. ..
Contact: Lateefah Al-Jahra
11023 Dasma 35151
New Dar Al-Shifa
Kuwait
.................................................. ...
Contact: Ms. Dianna Melamed
215 Cape Road,
Mill Park, P.E. 6001,
South Africa.
.................................................. ...
Contact: Stephanie Zucker Mrs.
Heidelberglaan 100 - E.01.334
3584 CX Utrecht
the Netherlands
.................................................. ...
Contact 1: Olukunle Okebule
Contact 2: Cynthia Mantebea
9 Dome st.
St. John, Accra
Ghana 233001
.................................................. ...
Contact: Tony Lindeberg
Building 49, 9th floor
Kerpener Str. 34
D - 50931
Cologne
Germany
.................................................. ..
Contact: Harriet Jin
15C, Guangdong Development Bank Tower
557 Xujiahui Road
Shanghai 200023 , China
.................................................. ..
Contact: Philip Hung
15/F, 148 Battery Street,
Yau Ma Tei,
KLN
Hong kong
.................................................. ..
Name : Cynthia Mantebea
Address : 172 Abeka Lapaz Road.
City :Accra
Zipcode : 23321
Country : Ghana
.................................................. ..

I will let you know if there is any updates you need to know and also let me have your full name, phone number and your full postal address as some of my clients are ready to make their payments. Will you be able to cash bank checks?
Best Regards.
Terry
+44 7035928769



Which is sending major red flags up. But the thing is that the company looks legit. The website is not built but he says its under registration. I cannot seem to find anything about them.

You can read the whole exchange here
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome Nana,

If you tried to cash a check from them, what would happen would depend on how "good" the fake is (and it is a fake, without question).
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If it is a really bad fake, the teller might recognize it, or might try to run it electronically and find it is fraudulent. If it is a better fake, or uses a stolen but real routing and account number, it will pass this first stage. The bank will deposit the money to your account and will start the process of collecting the money. If they discover the fake in the first 5 days, the money will likely never be credited to your account. If they don't, the funds from the check will be put in your account, while the check is still in processing. BUT--and here's the big catch--in a few days to several weeks, when it is finally found to be fake, the bank will debit your account for the check, plus any fees, including overdrawn fees if it pushes your balance to negative. If you sent money to the scammer as requested, you have no way of getting it back from the scammer, and you are going to lose all the money that was sent, plus whatever fees you are charged.
BUT --and this is the fun part- passing a fraudulent check is a crime. You can be arrested and tossed into jail.

That's why we always say "don't even try." Shred the check, turn it in to the police, or write "fake' in indelible ink and keep it as a reminder.

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