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kallepromp
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I was a member of this site long time ago. A few computers later i'm back, have no chance to remember my old username etc. Embarassed
I recall that we had "back then" a program we started to eat bandwidth of dirty scam-sites..
Do any of you have a link to that small program? -And the site it was hosted on?
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Lad Vampire?

Nah, that went out a LONG time ago. The decide to focus their efforts on other projects.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't think that's approved behaviour any more - not only is it totally ineffective, but also it affects ITP's (free site hosting is on shared boxes, all the other sites will be affected)

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kallepromp
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It could be that one.. Rolling Eyes
But i recall that it was mainly targeting fake bank-sites, and that program downloaded a list with "dirty sites" that it stressed by reloading graphics on that site.. Smile

(Btw: i think it's least 3-4 years ago. )
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justme
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mod edit - no need to quote the full post of the post above, removed - SP

Which is a DoS attack. Which is both illegal and affects third parties. Not a good idea. There are plenty of DoS tools out there, but it causes too much trouble for other people on the same webhosting server.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mod edit - no need to quote the full post of the posts above, removed - SP

Well, that was the goal.. That way the hosting-company would close their account for breaking terms..
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Lad Vampire does constantly download images, & HTML files from a list of fake sites.

They ceased operating it in September '07.

AA419 is where it was hosted.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mod edit - no need to quote the full post of the posts above, removed - SP

But you could easily take down their server for a few hours, which would also affect legitimate websites hosted at the same server.

Also, just send an abuse report. Works most of the time.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Thank you! Smile
Well, just missed that part from the "old days". Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Not so active in fighting scams. Back then it was what we did to contribute. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi kallepromp and welcome!

If you are interested in killing fakeys, come join us in the Fake Bank forum. There are plenty of stickies to help get your feet wet and a thread to sign up for info to get you started! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ Thank's.
Smile I might do that Dora.

edit: Embarassed Wink


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

kallepromp, no need to quote the post above you, just use the ^^^ . Wink

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh do go and join the delightful Dora and harmonious Harvest Moon in fakey killers! Times have moved on, but the goal is still the same, and the guys in fake are incredibly efficient.

Just for what it's worth, you could try begging a mod to reinstate your old a/c if you can search back and find who you used to be?!

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Craig007 wrote:
The Lad Vampire does constantly download images, & HTML files from a list of fake sites.
They ceased operating it in September '07.

why did they stop?
can we do something similar here?
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^ Because of the reason justme gave

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Which is a DoS attack. Which is both illegal and affects third parties. Not a good idea. There are plenty of DoS tools out there, but it causes too much trouble for other people on the same webhosting server.


It is far more effective to kill their site through reporting them to their hosts. A bandwidth attack will just cause them a temporary problem removing their hosting removes their site totally.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

i searched for a thread about this earlier, but all i found was posts by 'the vampire' about his current 'lad'
but adding 'aa419' as a keyword found the thread straight away...
http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122366&highlight=vampire+aa419
i didn't see any mention of this being illegal though.
they dropped it because it wasn't very effective any more
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mod edit - no need to quote the full post of the posts above, removed - SP

DoS attacks are illegal just like DDoS attacks (they are not the same). Google it Smile

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ except that it wasn't a dos/ddos tool - <link here>
people here used to use it, even people who are now mods.

the way i read it, they dropped it because it wasn't effective any more.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

From Wikipedia

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A denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users. Although the means to carry out, motives for, and targets of a DoS attack may vary, it generally consists of the concerted efforts of a person or persons to prevent an Internet site or service from functioning efficiently or at all, temporarily or indefinitely


Sounds exactly like LadVampire to me.

Regardless of the reasons for it being discontinued, the fact is that there is no need for it any more. We now have far more reliable means of removing websites.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

B8er wrote:
Regardless of the reasons for it being discontinued, the fact is that there is no need for it any more.

we can agree on that bit
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 3:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This is really a simple case of evolution. The quoted explanation copied from AA419 here:

http://wiki.aa419.org/index.php/New_Bandwidth_Policy

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New Bandwidth Policy
From aa419

AA419's New Policy On Bandwidth Hogging

As of September 14th 2007 the Artists Against 419 discontinued the use of Bandwidth Hogging tools

As regular viewers will have noticed, the Artists discontinued the use of the Deadly Duo, Mugito and Lad Vampire on September 14, 2007.

As a community we have grown more sophisticated and effective in the art of shutting down fake web sites with words alone. Our database is the largest of its kind, and our expertise at identifying, cataloging, and terminating fraud sites is unmatched. We have shut down over 95% of the fakes in our database by letter-writing and establishing good relationships with hosts and domain registrars, and so we believe that it's time to move on.

We have listened to feedback from all sections of the internet, and realise that there is less need for these tools. With so many reputable hosting companies supporting the work of AA419, we no longer need the pressure tactics that worked in our infancy.

This is not to say that AA419 has lost its teeth. We remain committed to locating, and closing fakes web sites of all descriptions. We will continue to make known the names of web hosts and registrars that support fakes within their ranges, and we will bring our reputation, and our artists with us to every fight.


AA419 now has enough of a positive reputation that a listing in the database (which we set in motion from our fake banks forum here) carries a lot of weight. Tools like that may have been helpful in the beginning, but today they would only negatively impact the reputation that many people have worked so hard for, and make hosts less willing to cooperate.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah, just me that's not updated.. Smile
Nothing is better than have a nice and good dialog with hostmasters..
Agree that was a primitive way to force a site offline, but i think it had the effect in soften the hostmasters, and make them do something about their customer..

BTW: Not an issue any more.. (those times is gone. )

Hmm.. About my old account here, nada problem, think it's deleted long time ago..

Keep up the fun work! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You know what is a bandwidth stealer, it's people who post multiple quote after quote after quote, there is no need to keep quoting every post, we can see them above your post, instead, aim your reply as @ username Wink

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi I hope I am not making anyone go over their bandwith allowance.

The title makes the OP look like a theif

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