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Jasper
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I have a new love lad. The love baits I've just started having a go at, so I may ask lots of questions and seek plenty of guidance.

Anyway, we've only exchanged a few emails, and already I see this lad is lazy. His letters are SO short. I made sure I told him in one of my letters that I love to get long love letters. He replied with something like, " I don't write long letters because the truth is, I am supposed to wear glasses and I never wear my glasses, so I can't see that well." Rolling Eyes
I made sure to scold him in my next email, and I gave him a short but firm lecture on wearing his corrective lenses. His reply back to me was ONE SENTENCE! Now, I don't know, but I'd have to say that's unacceptable. Especially because he has already asked me to be his girlfriend. I would think if I'm his girlfriend, I deserve well thought out long love letters and poems!

So.....Just how do you guys think I should go forth to make this lad get off his lazy arse and put some effort into things? I haven't replied yet to his one line email. (it simply said something like "Alright, take good care of yourself" After I told him what I was going to do today. I also asked him what he was planning on doing, and of course, I got nothing. I was reading on a love scammers site about this lad, and I chose him because he's young (they had gotten a photo of him and some other information on him somehow), and he seemed to be not too bright. I thought maybe an easy trophy or two out of him. Me thinks he may also have too many other girlfriends to put much time into me.

I'd like to make this lad cry and beg for mercy! Any and all ideas welcome! Perhaps we can make him Safari eventually! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Always good to see a new romance baiter join in the fun of love lads and vlads.

the first piece of advice is to not set you goals too high in any bait, obviously set out to achieve as much lad/vlad pain and suffering as possible but it is discouraging to get your hopes up too high.

The Spooners thread was not intended as a how easy can you lose a lad thread but that seems to be the way it has worked out, we certainly are not using good baiting technique and in some cases I am surprised how long our pets have held on, the point is, you may have to bait 50 scammers to find one who will perform tricks for you, even the experienced baiters have the same problems but rarely post all the failed baits.

But then other times the first pet you find will perform tricks, you can increase your odds of course by practice and effective baiting but there will always be an element of luck as to how easy your pet is to train

Also, highly recomended reading is the romance baiting FAQ, you can find a link in my signature line.

We are always happy to answer questions but we wouldn't want you to be all embarrased by your first question being on page one of the sticky now would we Wink

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Jasper
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Murry. I've been reading the stickys in this area. I know not all lads are going to do what we want. All pets must be trained properly anyway! I think I was just a bit surprised that this lad was so quick to ask me to be his girlfriend, yet shows such little interest at the same time. Heck, even my hitlad bait is going better than that and I can get some decent responses out of him! I think another thing is I sometimes can get impatient, too. I do my best not to, though. Very Happy

I think I'm a bit confused on the whole time zone thing and all that. I need to learn better what times during my hours they're most likely to be online, what days and times they're likely to not respond, etc. I've read that they tend to take weekends off, and that they go to church, of course. (for some reason that really amuses me!) My time zone is Eastern Daylight Time (EST when appropriate, of course).

I don't really get embarassed too easily. I'll admit sometimes I do have a problem with my cognitive abilities, so I may seem quick to seek guidance or not see what is right in front of me. Embarassed It's nothing that should hinder my baiting though. Very Happy

I think maybe I'll ignore the lad for a bit and see what he does. I have some other baits to work on in the mean time. (I'm trying out a few different ones to see which kind I like best!) I'll see if he puts any effort into finding out why I haven't written him!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My first thought is: If you were looking for love, would you fall for this man? Would you want to meet him? Marry him? Send him some money to help with his sudden problems? Would anyone?

If the answer is no way, then there may be no real victims to protect by your using up his internet time. And your own time might be better used by finding a Love Lad who is actually good at writing chatty mails and being romantic. Because the good ones, who are actually interesting, are the dangerous ones.

However, it might be beneficial for him to think that his pathetic letters are actually very effective, and you are indeed drawn to his avoidance of conversation and lack of interest in yourself. So that he stays that way, and doesn't see any need to improve his approach.

He might become more entertaining for you. Once he gets to asking for money and gets the impression that you will pay up, he may become more compliant out of desperation to keep you.

Or he may not.

I think if he was mine, I'd keep him around, but put no effort in to my side of the correspondence. He could have a paragraph cut and pasted from another mail I was writing, or whatever first came out of my head about some daily trivia, eg, 'Thanks for your mail. I got up at 7 o'clock this morning and had breakfast while reading yesterday's newspaper. They must use different inks nowadays because you don't get newsprint all over your hands like you used to. My dining chairs are very comfortable and I was wearing my favourite brown slippers. Do write again soon.' And then see what happens in the future.

But, meanwhile, I'd also want to find someone more amusing and potentially dangerous to correspond with at the same time. I want it to be fun for me, and also to have the feeling that I am doing something worthwhile.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I've only just started romance baiting (after MONTHS of reading them) and I'm finding that sometimes you just have to go with the flow. My character is german Born but in Australia and the lad has convinced himself he's going to Germany!!!

I have a few German friends and I've decided to change tack and try get him to ACTUALLY go, and hopefully try get to look for the "Hitleryouth Hotel" (If I can get a decent German translation).

A second one is obsessed with crap poetry and calling me his "Queen". Here queen has a different meaning, so I asked him if he's ever seen our favourite movie about travelling... "cruising" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080569/)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd go with Branwen - not too much effort on your part, but keep him dangling. Get a dialogue going and then miss responding to one of his emails (this may take some time, he sounds like a slow build to me - some are straight in with YIM) and in the meantime find someone more entertaining to play with and really waste some time.

I was YIM'ing a lad for about 4 hours yesterday - did a bit of housework, made a few calls, sent a few emails etc, slapped him for the buzzing. Paid him SOME attention and then just let him get his knickers in a twist. But I cost him 4 hours of his valuable cafe time and hopefully if he sees me as a potential cash cow, he may put more time and effort into me rather than a real victim.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah, I was kind of thinking along the lines of making him think he's good at what he does, when truthfully, he sucks! (could be he's busy being baited by someone else, which I'm hoping!) I haven't replied to him yet, since his one sentence email. Maybe I'll send one back just saying "Hi" then sign my name or something...lol...

I do have a love lad that is very excited about our "relationship". He's my "Hero", and he "saved me" from my hitlad. He only saved me on Friday, I think, and he's already sent me several long emails, has sent me 3 ecards just today Shocked , and has requested my phone number a few times. I ignored it at first, then today I told him I need to get to know him better and will give him my number when the time is right. I also told him that I cannot call men. I was raised that they should call me, so he will have to do the dialing! He keeps asking me to come get him and bring him to live with me. Rolling Eyes

So I've been experiencing both the worst and the more skilled love lads. ( the excited one seems good at what he's doing, and might easily be able to hurt someone!) I need to learn how to handle all the different skill levels they may have.

I'll have to check out YIM. I had it before, and used it in RL, but I had some problems with it. After a while it would not let me sign in and kept saying there was some problem or other. I stopped bothering with it. Luckily I haven't been asked about chatting on it or anything. Probably I should see if I can get the problems worked out so if they ask me to chat, I can do so. I have seen there are other instant messengers, so I'll check those out, too. I have gmail and I've seent here is a chat thing available there, but I haven't tried it yet. Maybe I'll make them get gmail, so I don't have to put any effort into getting a different messenger!

I've been reading and reading on love lads, learning all I can for a few weeks. There's a lot of information on them and many sites to learn from, too. I've been doing it all. I want to learn as much as I can so I can get really good at it, of course, and learning along the way with some lads is helpful.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A couple of points. are you sure he's // she's a scammer, The fact there only writing a one line reply, tells us they want you to do the work. or there stupid and can't use a keyboard.
You could try the old , "I want to know everything about you" line and see where it goes

But there not going to jump through hoops for you without considerable ground work, and sometimes months of sending emails too an fro.

I've got one, I've baited her three times now with different characters, and email accounts. It's like talking to my sister. It just plods along, and you wonder why they bother. Then all of a sudden, they stop replying, or ask for a pile of cash.

As for getting embarrassed, Well it depends how you treat your baits. And baits go where they go, you just need to play along, and enjoy the ride.
If you come across as a pre-opp transsexual, with a transgender outlook expect to get very personal. But the same can be said for someone who's really a Nun. It just depends on how they operate. Some your flat out getting a photo, others will send you a pile of porn. That's how the internet works, You can be anyone you want to be, and no one will question it.

The thing is with e-mail, you can check your errors before you click send. you can also operate when you want to, and your not tied down
as you are with "chat'' or a phone. And if you make a mistake with chat of phone, your stuck with it.

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