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walknbluez
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have a vlad/vladette on the line and she very quickly moved from chit chat to wanting to come see me to getting tickets to needing money. Is it too early to ask for a picture of her holding a sign with my name and if not, what's the best way to ask for it?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't do vlads yet...but I would think it is too quick - it sounds like they're still on script and I think for a vlad you need them to get off script...and then build a little trust.

I have heard that it is hard to get picture trophies out of vlads - I assume the reason is so many of them are named "boris" and their thick hairy chest just isn't what is expected in a trophy pic...

Good Luck

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ivana has hit the "Boris" on the head

You wont get a trophy pic from a vlad that doesn't have access to the girl in the pictures. either way, you need to run them completely out of script and wait for the money requests.

You will see a few examples in teh eater uni regarding vlad baiting and the sticky has a few good ideas as well.

Vlads are hard to get to do anything for you at the best of times.

Check out teh archives at www.romancescam.com and if you see a girl who provides trophies, then that is the one for you to bait

A general tip with any bait is to know your pet before you start

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You haven't said how long you have been baiting your little russian friend, But I would suspect, the request for tickets is built into her script.
Normaly when you get an early request, this is the way it's done.

If that is the case just ignore it, change the subject and wait till she's off script, which could be months away.

As for wanting photo's with loving signs, forget it, it's not about to happen anytime soon, Sometimes your flat out just getting a photo, and other times they will flood you with pictures. All are stolen of cause.
And Boris is not about to do a Photo chop, just for you. You might find if you do ask, and push the subject, they will drop you. Simply because in reality the girl does not exist. You would have more chance of getting a picture of her Mum.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Just been baiting him/her since 3/24. After about four or five emails, she went for the cash.

Quote:
excuse me that I could not write to you earlier.....
I'm writing to you as soon as I can!!!!!! I was busy with many
arrangements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! also I had to repeat some words
for my English test and I finally passed my test today morning!!!
today I was in the travel agency and I received an information about my trip! I will be very thankful to you if you can meet me at the Airport _!

>> I will arrive to you on Saturday, 14, April <<

I shall inform number of flight, the terminal and an arrival time
probably on Friday. more in detail look at the end of the letter. I copied the information of agency

I hope so much it's a good day for you to meet me!

I am so glad to see that we are almost near our goal,and our meeting
wait for us. I think I will call you from airport before my flight.
You know I booked tickets on Saturday, 14, April flight and I will buy them before my intervew. People from embassy must be sure that I am not going to stay illegally, so I need to buy roundtrip tickets (with returning date). I wanted to ask you about electronic tickets but they tell that I can't use because it is their businees to arrange all travel details
and they have some extra money from all the things, you see it is just business.I think that you will be able to help me because I don't know anybody here and only you are my hope now, I think everything in your hands and I believe that you will not leave me here alone.please borrow some money. I am sure I will be able to return all your money back after a few weeks, I will get salary and I will collect the sum I own from you.
To be fair I am not sure I know what to say because I hate to ask but
now I have no different way, you see.Please help me it is only money
and much more important if we will meet in person I will do my
best, you won`t be disappoined. I see that it sounds a little crazy
but I can't believe that in the worst case I have to return
home,they all will laugh at me.I think it rests with you to decide and I feel that you will help me because you are kind. I have about 300 US dollars yet and I think I need about 980 US dollars from your side with all travel needs and living here till my flight! (I had 1180 dollars, but flight from Orenburg, opening visa, medical insurance and all travel needs costed about 800 dollars). For truth I did not expect I will need to buy roundtrip tickets, but now I see that its a very strict rule.
I was sure that my mom will help me becasue she promised but now she
sent letter that it is possible only in a few months or so because of
family problems.and she can't send transfer now.I was in the bank to
try to ask them about loan but they tell I have to have something to stay them and I have nothing to stay because I have only a few
dress and things,some perfume and it is all I have,and small gift for you from russia with love.
please send it today by Western Union or Money Gram

I will write you details:

>> !!! <<
send it to russia, Kseniya Rusinova !!!!This is my full name!
Also I've got an advice to send you a scan copy of my passport
in case you need to confirm my details.
this is my full name used in all official documents. They said this is all info you need. But please for any case write down more info. The address where I'm staying:
Moscow, Nikolaewa street, 4 - 65, post code (zip) 123100.. I rent a small room In an apartment of an old policeman here, it's
cheaper then hotel.The address of the closest Western Union (or MoneyGram) here is:
"SAVINGS BANK of RUS. FED " KRASNOPRESNENSKOE BRANCH # 1569/01676 , 103274, Krasnopresneskaya an embankment, 2, a structure 1
I have some money but it's not enough to complete my trip.
Please send me 980 US dollars and I will complete my trip!
After it please write me all details about the transfer -
your FULL NAME and Money Transfer Control Number.!!
I will call you as soon as I receive it.
When I receive the money I will pay for my trip and only then
the embassy will put all final stamps on my documents.
I've bought you few souvenirs with Russian attributes!!! I'm
sure you will like them! If you need something more please let me
know, they are not expensive. Also I bought two boxes of Russian
chocolate! I hope so much when I come to you we will like each other!
You are already very special to me!
Please when I come to you tell me more about you and your country!
I will listen to everything you tell me and I will do everything you
tell me! I trust you really much!
I hope you will not do something to hurt my feelings.... I
think you are really good man. I will never do anything to hurt yours!!!
By statistics Moscow is the second most expensive city in the
world after Tokyo... everything is so expensive here... and I have
to pay for my rent and food and buy tickets.. please help me..
Sorry if I missed something or didn't comment please let me know
I was so busy with with all preparations!!!!
Kseniya

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@Walken

Have you looked at the header, something tells me this might be a lad pretending to be Russian, it does happen sometimes when they steal each others script

Note the lack of space after after punctuation in many cases, vlads rarely do that and it seems to have happened a few times here.

If it is a lad it will explain why she ran out of script so fast, Lads are usually much faster to get to the money request

This bit is typical for a Vlad, they love to overuse excaimation marks
Quote:
I'm writing to you as soon as I can!!!!!! I was busy with many
arrangements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! also I had to repeat some words


And this is typical lad
Quote:
because I have only a few
dress and things,some perfume and it is all I have,and small gift for you from russia with love


Also note the incorrect "dress" which should have been "dresses"

There is a good section on IPs in the sticky, post 6 if I recall Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes it would be good if you could post the headers, then we would know for sure. I've been taken for a ride by a "badger" [baiter playing the part of a scammer] in the past.

But I'm delighted for you that your 3 day wonder is flying to join you. Wink Just write back and tell her how happy you are, and you simply can't wait. You could explain that there is a freeze on Westen Onion and Moneygrab at the moment, So you will arrange for ticket to be made available at the Quantas flight desk, But expain it's a ticket only and can't be cashed in..
As for not having anything of value to put up as a bond, You could suggest she uses her mum as security. The old gilrls got to be worth something, It's called the glue factor. Confused

Mind you this little statement has some good possabilities

Quote:
I will listen to everything you tell me and I will do everything you
tell me! I trust you really much!


If only that was true. I wonder if it can cook Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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walknbluez
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:07 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Here is the header (I took out my email address):

Quote:
From Kseniya Mon Apr 6 04:29:24 2009
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Authentication-Results: mta193.mail.re3.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=pass (ok); from=yahoo.com; dkim=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 76.13.13.93 (HELO smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com) (76.13.13.93) by mta193.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:44:17 -0700
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From: This sender is DomainKeys verified Kseniya <[email protected]> Add sender to Contacts
Reply-To: Ekaterina <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: Baiter
Subject: You wait for me?...
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References: <[email protected]>
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Is it from Denmark?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ Boris can never cook, that's the beauty of getting them to write recipes for you Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well...

Using apelord header tool it looks like the IP is coming from 80.63.16.49 Denmark (Ã…lborg)*

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