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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A Loan at 4% Interest

I got this jewel in my catcher, real personal, and in my work emails. So I figure what the heck, let's see what he has to offer, and see if this is a 'real' company.


Quote:
From: "OCEANIC MERCHANT LENDING HOUSE"
<[email protected]>
undisclosed-recipientsOCEANIC MERCHANT LENDING HOUSE
Contact Address:85 Fleet Street.
London EC4Y 1AE.
Manchester United Kingdom.

WELCOME TO OCEANIC MERCHANT LENDING HOUSE

Are you searching for a genuine loan? at an affordable interest rate ?
processed within 4 to 6 working days. Have you been turned down
constantly
by your Banks and other financial institutions? The goodnews is here
!!!
Be well informed that apart from going into business to maximise
profit,this noble company goes the extra mile, seeing to a healthy
lender-borrower relationship. This involves making the loan packages so
flexible that intending customers are allowed the freedom of how much
to
borrow and when to pay back.
As it may interest you,we offer all kinds of loan to any part of the
world.
It may also interest you to know that you,as an intending
borrower,determine how much you need as loan and when to pay us back
provided you meet all our requirements.This flexibility is one of the
major factors that literally stands us out among others here in the
U.K.
and around the world.
We offer loans ranging from $5,000.00 Min. to $10,000,000.00 Max at 4%
interest rate per annun.loans for
developing
business a competitive edge/ business expansion. We are certified,
trustworthy, reliable, efficient, Fast and dynamic. A trial will
convince
you.....
1st INFORMATIONS NEEDED ARE
Full Name:_________________________
Gender:_______________________________
Marital status:_____________________
Contact Address:______________________
City/Zip code:________________________
Country:______________________________
Date of Birth:________________________
Amount Needed as Loan:________________
Loan Duration:________________________
Monthly Income/Yearly Income:_________
Occupation:___________________________
Purpose for Loan:_____________________
Phone:________________________________
Fax:__________________________________
Thanks For Your Patronage!
Mr,Owen Blair
Email:[email protected]

Telephone:+44-703-595-4201

THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR DEBT AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS !!!
Here To Show You A Better Way To Financial Freedom
!!! Contact Us Today !!!
'Your Business Is Our Blessing'


I tried to lookup the originating IP but only got it back as far as UK.

So of course I cast out my line and see if anything bites.

Quote:
From: Baiter
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009
Subject: Loan Application

OCEANIC MERCHANT LENDING HOUSE
Contact Address:85 Fleet Street.
London EC4Y 1AE.
Manchester United Kingdom.

Full Name:Baiter
Gender:Male
Marital status:Married
Contact Address:[email protected]
Country:United States
Amount Needed as Loan:$50,000
Loan Duration:2 Years
Monthly Income/Yearly Income:$175,000 YR
Occupation:XXXXXXXX
Purpose for Loan:Business Expansion

Thank you,
Baiter


I intentionally left out alot of requested information just to see where we went to. Then amazingly 4 hours later I get a full APPROVAL from the entire Board of Directors!

Quote:
From: oceanic merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OCEANIC MERCHANT LENDING HOUSE
Contact Address:85 Fleet Street.
London EC4Y 1AE.
Manchester United Kingdom.
Phone Number : +447035954201, +44-702-403-7682

Atten: BAITER,

We have received your e-mail.On behalf of the entire Board of
Directors,this company is assuring you our best service in regards to
obtaining this offer,because we want you to be our good and trusted
customer. These are our repayment schedule / Loan agreement.These are
the required terms and conditions which must be meant before you can
be granted a loan from us.
REPAYMENT SCHEDULE

Loan Amount: $50,000
Loan Interest Rate: 4.00%
Loan Term: 2years
Number of Payments: 24
Monthly Loan Payment:
$2,171.25
Total Interest Paid: $2,109.90
Cumulative Payments: $52,109.90


Be informed that you will be expected to send to us a scanned copy of
your ID/international passport to hold against the loan if available,
since you are an international applicant.

The loan will be transfered into your personal bank account,which you
will provide to us later. Once the loan has been insure,then we will
instruct you to provide your Banking Informations to enable the bank
make a swift transfer of your funds to you.


SECURITY POLICY
<---This 1st paragraph had me ROFL

Due to the high rate of Internet insecurity we have our own method to
prevent Fraudulent people from obtaining a Loan.These are the required
processes for proper verification and vetting before your Loan can be
granted and transferred to you.Before the loan can been transfer to
you,there must be an insurance cover on the loan amount.
<OF COURSE it needs to be insured, that is how YOU will get PAID!

The reason why we insure our money is to be guaranteed and ensure
that borrowers will not consficate the money after it has been loaned
to him/her. Also,The importance of the insurance is for higly
compensation incase of death occurance of the borrower.
<-Nice try to get the victim to pay up before they get their loan.

Please note that we are both responsible for the payment of the loan
Insurance,Associated with this transaction and that will be done
before your loan will be transferred to you.
<Lets see if the insurance company really does split the costs!

There are no form of deductions of any of the bills above,Due to that
fact that the Loan has being insured by the Hard cover Insurance
Policy.Which strictly prohibits all forms of deductions before the end
of any transaction,for security reasons.

If you are in agreement of our repayment schedule,terms of contract
and security policy,kindly contact the insurance company for the
insurance of the loan amount.See below the contact address of the
insurance company.

Name Of Firm:BestDeal Insurance Company
Email Address: [email protected]
<email account is really hosted at www.mail.com at a website that is for resale from a real company, meanwhile the website is used to sell real portal ads by a real company.

Quote:
Insurer.com
Administrative Contact:
NJDomains, Abuse Contact: [email protected]
Gerald Gorman ([email protected])
2124254200
Fax: +1.7323527726
90 Washington Valley Rd., #1128
Bedminster, NJ 07921
US



Please note that the loan given by this noble company takes only two
working days to get to our customers.

We will do our best to provide the right services for you,

Thanks For Your Patronage!!

'Your Business Is Our Blessing'



Surprise to me, I got approved for a loan. This is the quickest loan approval I have ever gotten in my life. I cannot even finance a piece of 5cent bubble gum with 6cents down payment, in real life, but here APPROVED we will give YOU money with NO questions and NO credit checks. Wow, my lucky day!

UP NEXT, "I EMAILED THE INSURANCE COMPANY!"

Quote:

Thu, 26 Mar 2009 - FROM BAITER TO SCAMMER
Mr. Owen Blair,

I thank you for your email and consideration of my loan. The terms
are reasonable and I have fowarded the information to my
accountant. My accountant has agreed that this will be mutually
beneficial. I am in the process of gathering up my documents and I
should have it overnighted to your address in the United Kingdom at
85 Fleet St, along with my bank account information, by monday 30th of March. I assume you would like the package to be in your name Owen Blair. If not, let me know before friday morning, so I can change the name for the signature of receipt. If you need anything else please feel free to email me.

BAITER


I thought this should rile them up, "sending" my document hard copy style overnight to their fake real ITP address. And I CCed it to the Oceanic Merchant as well just to see what happened.

Quote:
Fri, 27 Mar 2009 Owen Blair to BAITER
Good Day BAITER

We are writing in receipt of your mail,we understand the fact that our repayment was accepted by you.Well you talked about sending your document to our address,that will not be neccesary because if you went through the repayment schedule we sent to you it was clearly stated that the only document required from you is the scan copy of your driver's lincensed or national identity card.So you are here by required to send down the scan copy of your valid identity via email for proper identification,documentation of your file and for security reasons.

Lastly you will be required to contact the insurance company to obtain an insurance cover on your loan amount.the insurance company address again is([email protected])we have already contacted them and we are waiting for them to come up with the cost of the insurance premium.Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks for your patronage

Regards
Owen Blair


Obviously, he was a little upset that I "sent" hard copies to him. And I get the feeling that Owen Blair is DONE talking with me, since he passed me off to the real money scam, the LOAN INSURANCE SCAM BDI-BestDeal Insurance.

Fri, 27 Mar 2009 BDI to BAITER
They sent me some piece of junk form loaded with protected stolen images, so I just get a bunch of red X boxes with poor writing skills. This "form" wants all my personal info again. I will not even try to repricate this atrocity here, the servers here do not deserve to be overloaded with this tripe.

Quote:

Fri, 27 Mar 2009 BAITER TO Owen Blair
I just got back from the post office from sending you the required
documents. It should reach your office before noon on monday. I am
puzzled by this email that you sent me. You told me to mail you a
scan of my documents. As it is well known and done in the business
world, I had my documents notarized as it is required by both
United States and United Kingdom law. They are now on there way via
registered international mail, as it is required by law. You spoke
of being legal on this transaction and I am. I know that your
company does abide by the laws of our respected countries. Now if
you wish for me to email a copy of what I sent you, then I will as
a courtesy. Now an email scan cannot be the basis for a business
contract, legally speaking. I thank you Sir for keeping me mindful
of the law. I also thank you for your perservance in stopping
internet fraud. I did email the insurance company but they have not
gotten back to me as of yet. Do I need to also send a copy of my
personal documents to the insurance company or will you be doing
that? I offer you good day and great profits in our future
endevours.


Then I sent another email to the BDI
Quote:
Sat, 28 Mar 2009
Attached is the information you requested for my loan. Ocean
Merchant said that they will also send over my loan documents to
you at BDI. Also my lawyer and accountant has prepared a notorized
draft of credentials to be mailed to BDI, I have used the address
at the bottom of the email confirmation to send you an
international certified mailing of all of my personal information,
documents, tax forms, etc. as required by United States and United
Kingdom laws. It should reach your office by postal carrier before
noon on March 31st by the latest. I will just send you to sign the
mandatory reciept and customs forms. The postal carrier will
forward those to the Customs Office in London. Again thanks for the
help! Good business to you.


INSURANCE REPLY FORM THAT I FILLED OUT FOLLOWS, but ops a server error occurred!

START SERVER MESSAGE - FROM ENITWITS - ASK SENDER FOR PASSCODE KEY -
>
###################WARNING>SERVER>DELETED>INFORMATION###############
####################ASK>SENDER>FOR>PASS>CODE>KEY>ENITWITS###########
######
END MESSAGE


Of course I never knew the server error happened, let's see if the Insurance company noticed.

Quote:

Sat, 28 Mar 2009 BDI TO BAITER
Hello

We received your mail sent to us,in our previous mail we do sent you our required form to fill and get back to us with the required form and not to posta any document to us.So kindly fill the form we sent to you and get back to us so that we can evaluate the cost of the insurance premium.

Note that we are not responsible in giving out the loan to you but your loan lending company who has refered you to us.our duty is to insure the loan,so what is needed from you is for you to fill out the form we sent to you so that we can evaluate the cost of the insurance premium on your loan amount.We await your swift responce regarding this email.

Thanks
Customer's Care Service Department


Nice, now I have been elevated to dealing with the Customer's Care Service Department instead of an agent/rep/sales. For a LONDON, UK based insurance company that has been around for over 60 years, their command of the English language is seriously lacking. Of course they resend me the jacked up finger paint quality form again. I guess they have not noticed the server error either.

I decide to take an aggravated customer stance due to their incompetence and lack of common professional business standards.

Quote:
Sat, 28 Mar 2009 BAITER TO BDI & CCed to Owen Blair @ Oceanic Merchant
Customer Care,

First off BDI already has my loan documents and they
told me that YOU got a copy of them FROM Oceanic Merchant.

Second I already filled out the INSURANCE form you sent me and returned
it to you.

Third I have already sent the required documents BY LAW to you
registered mail.

I have had no problems with this loan UNTIL I met up with your
insurance company.

DO NOT try and blame me for your mistakes. I have done EVERYTHING
that I am required to do by law! I have followed your processing
rules.

I am tired of your company blaming me for when BDI and Oceanic Merchant keep screwing up this deal.

I have a good mind to go to Banc Of America and get my loan without your stumbling through a simple transaction that a child could do
better. If you really want my business then appologize to me for
you guys messing up and FIX THIS!

Good Day Sir,
BAITER

PS I sent a copy to Oceanic Merchant so both of you can fix this big
screw up!


Let's see if I can nudge them a little off-script. Nope they immediately send me the same form. So I wait until monday, since it is the weekend and I am out of my BAITER office.

Up Next, Monday morning at the office...

And they send me the same junk form, so I reply to BDI
Quote:
Mon, 30 Mar 2009
TO Bestdeal Insurance,

My Internet Service Provider has been deleting your files because
YOUR Email Message Center at your end is NOT secure. This attached
form will set up a SECURE transmission for everything and then we
can talk freely in the emails. Fill out form and send back with the
price of the insurance.


I try to get them to bite.

Quote:

Tue, 31 Mar 2009
We sent you the terms of contract and agreement for you to sign and send back to us and we have not hard from you.please kindly sign the terms of contract and agreement and get back to us so that your loan sum can be approved and ready for transfer.Do make sure you obtain an insurance cover on your loan amount so that we can commence the transfer of your funds once the terms of contract has been signed by you and once we receive a notification from the insurance company that your loan sum has been insured.Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks for your patronage

Regards
Mr Owen Blair


Attached is some scammer fake contact made on construction board paper. I ignore and send this back. I am getting bored with him so I lit a fire and waited for Owen to dance.
Quote:


Wed, 01 Apr 2009
Mr. Owen Blair

I got a phone call from our IT department a few days ago. It seems
that your email software is not secure, so all attachments sending
or going and some contents of emails are being deleted. We use a
specific service enitwits that encrypts all of our emails for
security purposes. We already have paid for a license for it, so
you do not have to pay for it. It is free to add you on for you to
use but I need you to fill out a special form for the company to
activate your email to receive information from our accounts
servers. Just fill in the
form and send it back, it has been flagged "paf-form1" so it will
go through our computers. Thanks for understanding. When this is
done, I will then be able to give you all of my bank and personal
information. I also ttached enitwits error message that IT
discovered, don't worry about it, the PAF will fix it.


They have not bite yet, so I am getting pretty pissed at this point. I decide to throw a curveball at them.


Quote:
Mr. Owen Blair,

I thank you for everything and the loan. I am not trying to get you
into trouble by sending you this email, but I thank you. Also thank
you for calling me yesterday to sort all this out all the way from
your business dealings in Nigeria. Yes I know it was a long weekend
but it was nice of you to stop by your office and find my packet
waiting at the front desk. I was really worried about that packet I
sent international mail. I really do appreciate you fixing all this
and I hope you find an insurance company who is not under ministry
ivestigation that of BestDeal. I never knew that an insurance
company was going to steal my money. Whew I am relieved that you
called me today when you did. Because I was about to send BestDeal
my bank account to pay for the insurance. As a precaution I
canceled any transactions waiting for them, per your instructions.
Your boss just emailed and called me to say that everything is
fine. Here below is a copy of your boss's email today. Let him know
I will send the money to the Nigeria Bank's Swift Account he told
me on the phone. I am sorry you had to move your business from the
UK office to the Nigeria Office because of the BestDeal scandal. I
hope it works out and you are claered of any wrong doings. Good
business to you Sir!

BAITER


I got another scam email in my catcher account so I doctored it to see if Owen would fall for it. Da Dolla Chop Bait. I attached it to this reply to Owen.

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------
------
Subject: FROM OCEANIC MERCHANT LENDING HOUSE
Date: Tue, March 31, 2009 23:25

OCEANIC MERCHANT LENDING HOUSE
Contact Address:85 Fleet Street.
London EC4Y 1AE.
Manchester United Kingdom.

Office of the Director General (Nigeria)
From The Desk Of:
Mr Stauffacher Werner.

Attention:BAITER.

I am Mr Stauffacher Werner, working as an Director in OCEANIC
MERCHANT
LENDING HOUSE, I am Instructed to officially inform you that we
have verified your loan file and found out that why you have nota
received your payment is because you have not received your ATM
card given to you in respect of your loan.

Secondly, we have been informed that you are still dealing with
sone officials in the insirense all in your attempt to secure the
release of the fund to you. We wish to advise you that such an
illegal act like this has to stop if you wish to receive your
payment since we have decided to bring a solution to your problem.
Right now we have arranged your payment through our SWIFT CARD
PAYMENT CENTRE.

This card center will send you an ATM card, which you will use to
withdraw your money in any ATM machine in any part of the world,
but the maximum is Fifty Thousand United States Dollars
($50,000.00). So if you like to receive your fund in this way,
please let us know and send the back to email as listed below:

1. BAITER
2. BAITER K-7 #
3. FedEx to USA address, 1 weeks after dey fanil payments.
4. 495$USDS Fee to ATM Swift Account

We will forward your informations to the director of ATM CARD
payment
officer MR.Francis Okumagba upon our receipt of the above
information. Note that the ATM card payment center was mandated to
issue out $50,000.00 as payment for this fiscal year 2009 to you so
bear with us. Also for your information, you have to stop any
further communication with any other person(s) or office(s) to
avoid any hitches in receiving your payment. Note that because of
impostors, we hereby issued you our code of conduct, which is (ATM-
2020) so you have to indicate this code when contacting the card
center by using it as your subject.

We anticipate your total compliance to this message immediately.

Yours sincerely,
Mr Stauffacher Werner. Director General


Three hours later, Owen accepted the dance with this letter

Quote:
Attention:BAITER.


This is to inform you that your message has been

received in this office and it's content well noted.In

regards to my previous email i want to advice you once

again not to make any payment to the insurance company

because we have figured out that the insurance payment

is all a scam...


To deliver your ATM you are requested to make a payment

of $495 which will be forwarded to the director of ATM

CARD payment officer Mr.Francis Okumagba.



You are to make the payment to our agent in your country

via bank to bank transfer.and the money must be paid in

cash not cheque


Find below the account details from the swift payment of

your delivery charges.


REAL BANK INFO AS HERE and I sent it off to Alan


As soon as you make the requested payment you are to

forward to us the payment confirmation slip for

confirmation.


Note that you are to make the payment as soon as

possible so we can conclude this transaction ASAP.

Also note that this office shall not call you until we

receive your payment,so you are to disregard any call

that relates to the loan request.

We await your most prompt response.

Best Regards
Mr Stauffacher Werner. Director General


WOW!! He went for it hook, line and sinker! Surprised me. He even changed his name at the same email addy! He spit out a bank account that quick. Freakin Awesome. Puppet master here we go...

Quote:
Mr Stauffacher Werner. Director General

I thank you for your communications with me and fixing these
issues. I was told that I need the following format in order to
transfer international funds to process to the right account in
USD:

ACCOUNT HOLDER NAME:
BANK NAME:
BANK ADDRESS:
BANK SWIFT CODE:
SORT CODE :
ACCOUNT NUMBER:
IBAN CODE OF THE BANK:

Again Thanks for everything.


Let's see what else I can land at this fishery!

Quote:
Attention:BAITER.


I must thank you for your prompt response.In regards to your email i wish to inform you once again that you are not making an international transfer but rather a local transfer since you are making the payment to our agent in your country (INDIA) so you do not need the below details.

BANK ADDRESS:
BANK SWIFT CODE:
SORT CODE :
IBAN CODE OF THE BANK:

Once again you are making the payment to the account of our agent in india..

You are to make the payment to the account informations below..

HE GAVE ME ANOTHER BANK ACCOUNT! I OF COURSE FOWARDED IT TO ALAN

You are hereby instructed and adviced to make the requested payment as soon as this email is received.

If your wish to make the payment in United States dollars,you are to make a payment of $495.00US.

$495.00US converted to indian rupees is 25,068.27 INR,you have the option to make the payment in United States Dollars or in rupees.

Once again you are requested to make the payment as soon as possible.

Note that you will required to send the scan copy of the payment slip to this office for verification.

I await your most prompt response.

Regards
Mr Stauffacher Werner. Director General


This one got me confused? Apparrently Owen/Stauffacher was confused also. I told him I was in the US. I don't know how he got the idea I was In India? I had other pressing matters and did not read this email until after the next one arrived.

Quote:
Good Day


Sorry there was a mistake in the email we just sent to you,it was due to some error from my secretary,you were not supose to make the payment via Bank to Bank account but rather Via Western Union to our account officer.but my secretary made the mistake because she thought you were the india customer because your names is simillar.All the same we are very sorry.the email we sent to you is for our india customer and not you.

You will hereby be required to send the money via Western Union Money Transfer to our account officer whose details are stated below.

Name:Mr LAD
Location:Nigeria.

the information you will send to this office should include

1:mtcn number
2:sender name and amount sent
3:senders address
4:scan copy of the payment receipt
5:the text question and answer should be
Question:what is the best planet,Answer Earth.

You are advice to make the payment as soon as possible so that we can commence the delivery of your ATM CARD to you at once.

Thanks for your understanding.

Best Regards
Mr Stauffacher Werner. Director General


Whatever, he already gave me 2 bank accounts and now wanted to go backwards and use WU. So I replied with this...

Quote:
Well bloody hell! I thought you had this fixed. You TOLD me on the
phone it was fixed. I have already got approval from my bank in the
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to wire the money. I have already PAID the
fees to my bank for the secure transfer. I had to wait three hours
while they tried to figure out your indian account information. And
boy that sure raised some red flags, the Manager had to sign off on
the preapproval form. Then when I am in the bank some guy with a
heavy african accent called me saying he was from the UK finance
ministry asking about if I sent the money to BDI, of course I said
NO like you told me. I am really getting nervous here. All I have
to left to do to finish this loan is for you to reverify the
account numbers that I asked you for. I am not fooling with Western
Union, or checks or anything else. We are going to finish this wire
transfer like we talked about. OR If you want I could just use the
accounts you gave me over the phone the other day Mr Stauffacher
Werner. The $495 is in a wire hold account, waiting for the
following information to transmit. It cost me an extra $75.00 for
the special service cash on demand. I only have 2 hours left to
transmit it so you get it today.

ACCOUNT HOLDER NAME:
BANK NAME:
BANK ADDRESS:
BANK SWIFT CODE:
SORT CODE :
ACCOUNT NUMBER:
IBAN CODE OF THE BANK:


No answer, so another attempt

Quote:
Mr Stauffacher Werner. Director General

We only have an hour left to get that money transferred today. You
keep telling me to wire to different accounts, so in the morning I
will just wire the $495.00 USD funds to MR.Francis Okumagba,
Nigeria Bank, of your Swift Card Payment Centre. Please contact me
before the bank closes in an hour with the correct account
inormation. The bank will not hold the funds for wire to cash past
Friday due to US Wire Laws. We have to move now for us to get a tax
advantage on this.

ACCOUNT HOLDER NAME:
BANK NAME:
BANK ADDRESS:
BANK SWIFT CODE:
SORT CODE :
ACCOUNT NUMBER:
IBAN CODE OF THE BANK:
SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS:


Thu, 02 Apr 2009, a day later he finally replies

Quote:
ATTEN

I am sorry for the mistake we made yesterday by asking you to send
the money via wire transfer it was due to the mistake on the part of
my secretary.all the same you are to make the payment via western
union money transfer to our account officer in Nigeria.

So you are there for adviced to go and withdrew the money from your
bank and go to any western union outlet close to you and make the
payment.below again is the information you will be sending the money
to.the amount to be sent by you is $495.do this as soon as you
recieved this email so that we can commence the delivery of your ATM
CARD at once.

You will hereby be required to send the money via Western Union Money
Transfer to our account officer whose details are stated below.

Name:Mr LAD
Location:Nigeria.

the information you will send to this office should include

1:mtcn number
2:sender name and amount sent
3:senders address
4:scan copy of the payment receipt
5:the text question and answer should be
Question:what is the best planet,Answer Earth.


In real life, I went on vacation and got sick for 7 days, so I was out of the cyber loop. I will try to roll with Owen some more later this week.

_________________
->"Due to the high rate of Internet insecurity we have our own method to prevent Fraudulent people from obtaining a Loan."

->"THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR DEBT AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS !!! "

->"In regards to my previous email i want to advice you once again not to make any payment to the insurance company because we have figured out that the insurance payment is all a scam..."

->"I am not a doctor or a counselor you can visit the nearest sacatric hospital just take good care of yourself and help us fight cyber crime."

->"You are to understand that these Mr. Gomer and Mr. Booth are dead Hackers, from Africa. Please do not respond to them anymore okay."


->Closed lad accounts X 6 Easter Egg 2013

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 4:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow sound familiar I have had like three situations like this same names same senerio

I have been making a huge list of these guys names and have in fairness it started because i was stupid enough to buy into it twice then have goofed around with over 9 of these idiots so for but the fact is they are bleeding others dry of money and sit in lile computer rooms and make up this shit it is so scripted I am finding at times and many of it matches and the minute one lan gouy I wear out bank i have a new offer i 5 minutes differnt company in my yahoo account mail go figure same senerio starts
some of the e-mails and garbage these guys have pulled of like goverment stop orders done at western union but pay 850 for legal fees and boom you get your loan then i make him send me the western union took me over 10 days to get him to send the scanned copies of this so called loan transfer that had been stopped and guess what a million errors on the fraude little western union transfer dates messed up list goes on I tell the dip head look at the dates and all he does is so oh no western union fault maybe i can get the stop order fixes this goes on for like 4 days he comes back oh western union says all their fault and stop order but the FBI goverment has been pulled of but oh by the way your loan insurance no cause of this has run aout and you have to pay 380.00
to funny it just get crazy with these guys but in fairness hurting alot of people
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