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 An idea for a twist on m7cn sec. - neverending captcha?

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hoorah
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So I just had this idea after reading the M7CN sec. thread - how about a neverending Captcha website to retrieve the M7CN code?

I'm not a programmer, but you could make a site that has horribly impossible to read captcha code, then when the get it wrong 3 times - it locks them out for 30 mins. Just long enough that they would want to wait in the internet cafe burning time to try it again. 3 more tries - bam, locked out again for another 30.

Thats an easy hour you can waste. Of course, they could also be scamming others while waiting, so its not as involved as M7cn sec. On the other hand, some scammers just give up too easy on m7cn, so maybe if you feel your lad is too clever, you could use the captcha one.

Just an idea.

Oh, for anyone that doesn't know, Captcha is that thing on email signup or file downloads that has the twisted picture and they make you type in the letters.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That's a great idea Very Happy

It could be made so it fails all the time and tells you the error.. like the 2 was a Z or vice versa Laughing Also symbols from the greek alphabet could be a nice addition.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes!

At random you could change the image just as he gets 5 out of 6 characters in too.

Shame RL isn't going to let me get this done soon.

If noone picks it up I'll come back to it when I am next free.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes!

At random you could change the image just as he gets 5 out of 6 characters in too.

Shame RL isn't going to let me get this done soon.

If noone picks it up I'll come back to it when I am next free.

I don't think we should give any feed back or hints though - captcha doesn't because it would make cracking it easier.

Edit - how the fecky fek do I manage to do that!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

sounds nice

captcha - 3 wrong - bamm - lock them out for 15 min, but write there: sorry, try it again in 3 (5) min.
and nice would be a random mode, so that sometimes it just works straight, and in 6 of 9 tries he gets tortured.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crap if I can get a 'normal' captcha right the first time anyway let alone if it's made impossible to get right on purpose. Great idea!!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The more I think/read about this the better it gets.

He could have to type in a ten-digit captcha in order to reveal the M7CN...one....digit...at...a...time...

And then of course he will "allegedly" screw up and get kicked to the back of the process again.

The possibilities are endless!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I love this! I've got my first bait in a long time just about ready for the M7CN sec...too bad this doesn't exist right now, I'd love to use it. Oh yes, the frustration factor on this could be outrageously high! Twisted Evil

Unfortunately I'm not a programmer type. Just yer standard baiter.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

*paging windypops* Laughing

great idea, hoorah!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

With a little work you could make the individual captcha characters gifs that change subtely so that he has no chance of getting them right - and another layer of characters could be the ones they use to test colour blindness, except that these are altered so that you appear colour blind.

Of course you'd need an audio option for those who are having trouble - you don't want to be a complete bastard do you ? - but you make the language options available - German, Russian and Japanese.

You could add an English version - but clearly, as it's overused, it's become a little distorted and goes from s - l - o - w to fast making it impossible to understand.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
If you have trouble completing this, you may have the rare UV colour blindness. Please click [here] to view an alternative Captcha for those with this affliction.


with another one in bright rainbow colours Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow guys, glad you like my idea!

I've had a few more ideas to expand on it. You'd have to play around with the "lockout time", but if you could combine the lockout time with the "expiration time", you could time it so that after 2 lockouts, the M7CN expires.

Then, YOU have to go back to the WU office AGAIN. And you aren't happy about it, not one bit. Why are YOU (the lad) making this so difficult?

Another idea is something I pitched on the M7CN sec. thread - after they sucessfully retrieved the M7CN number :

Congratulations! You've successfully validated your western union money transfer! Please select a pickup location from the dropdown box below:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

This has to be one of the best ideas I've seen here...I get a big smile on my face just imagining the lads sitting in the cafes getting angrier and angrier with every time they mistake a 5 for an S, a 9 for a g, a 1 for an l, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

sorry, has ANYONE successfully retrieved the full MTCN from that service? I seriously doubt it Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You could chuck in a few Thai characters which the Lad will find very hard to find. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:31 am Reply with quoteBack to top

H_Potter wrote:
This has to be one of the best ideas I've seen here...I get a big smile on my face just imagining the lads sitting in the cafes getting angrier and angrier with every time they mistake a 5 for an S, a 9 for a g, a 1 for an l, etc.


And what makes it even better is you KNOW they have to type in the captchas all day long for new free email accounts, mass multiple email logins, all kinds of stuff. They probably hate them already!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^But the best part is that they are AWARE of them...they are familiar to them. That has been one of my problems with M7TN Secure - it's all rather unfamiliar, and any mugu with a few extra brain cells can start to get suspicious. But they all know these captcha things! This is BRILLIANT!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That is a really good idea. Captcha gets me pretty much every time on the first go Sad Fuzzy, upside down letters are the worst.

Actually, if someone wanted to go a step further, you could make up a website with passphrases that the baiter sets up. In order to get the MTCN, the scammer would have to answer a number of questions, such as

"What is the fifth letter of the second word of your second passphrase?"

"What is the ninth letter of the first word in your sixth passphrase?"

One site I have used is like that, and it takes me forever to log in mainly because I have a terrible memory and can never remember which passphrase is which.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^That seems excessive. I approve.

There are some great ideas in this thread. I hope some of them come to fruition.

The eater captcha had me raging with its firefox bug. I can only imagine what pain a baiter approved set up will cause.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You could also have dropdown lists for answering the question when is your birthday - and then reply 'WRONG' - 'this does not agree with the date you specified' when they never specified a date, or have the drop down lists with missing or jumbled numbers/letters.

Or have them answer simple questions like - 'Name an animal with three letters that dislikes cats' - answer 'dog' - WRONG 'pig'

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Cool idea hoorah. Very Happy

This would be easy to do using random gif image loads and maybe one of those rotten never ending javascript popups.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

@ hoorah

Kisses and hugs, babe.

It's devilish, simple and effective.

My blood boils everytime I have to use one.

Endless lad frustration. I love it.

Bravo!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@horrah, love the idea!

Now hurry up and get it made Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This is great!! I hope it happens!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Include some nasty words once in a while. And how about a new security feature: having them speak the decoded word into the microphone to confirm the Captcha. Of course the computer can't hear and will ask "louder please" several times...

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