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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4827443a13.html
This is absolutely nuts and hopefully unenforcable. A business could really suffer at the hands of one employee.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:05 am Reply with quoteBack to top

nope all the kiwi's are in Australia

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think Callum is currently residing in NZ?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Official Press Release

Anonymous sources express the opinion that the new copyright legislation due to come into effect in New Zealand the copyright is moronic nanny statesmanship at its worst. When asked to elaborate further, our source declined to comment for fear of being mistaken as a member of politcal activist group and being banished.

Shortly after the interview, it was reported that a masked figure produced a can of lime green spray paint and writ large upon the bonnet of a ministerial car "Hang the bloody bastards!" before disappearing into the town belt undergrowth near the Wellington Showgrounds.

From the Office of Director of Press Relations

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

"What new copyright law?" asks the politically unaware Nelsonsbattle.

Who was that masked man, callum? And lime green paint, tasteful but I hope it was a CFC free spraycan.

Note the copyright breach there, and apologies and attribution to the writers of "The Lone Ranger".

callum and I are of course organising a resistance movement to protest against this infringement of our copyright rights. Lime green paint is no longer unavailable in retail stores across New Zealand.

But aren't you alowed by international agreement to copy up to one chapter or 10% of a book (whichever is the lesser) without payment?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm joining Nelsonsbattle and Callum in their protest. I have a lot of friends on another forum who are dead-set against it too. This is pretty crazy. They might as well stop providing internet in NZ fullstop if they were to punish copyright infringement through ceasing internet access.

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But aren't you alowed by international agreement to copy up to one chapter or 10% of a book (whichever is the lesser) without payment?

I've heard something like that too, though that may be only copying for educational purposes.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Glorafilia wrote:
I've heard something like that too, though that may be only copying for educational purposes.


Maybe it was copying content, that you're allowed to copy one chapter/article/internet page or 10% of a book. I was told this in a business context some time ago, I'm a technical writer and never could get into the paperless office philosophy. Of course you can quote as much as you like, with the appropriate attribution.

Well, that's 3 of us. The government trembles!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm not sure on how much you can legally copy, but I know you can still be done if you copy the bit that's going to sell the book. IE, why Gerald Ford sued a magazine for copying 300 words from his 200,000 word autobiography. It was the part about why he pardoned Nixon.

Here is a delightfully long article on copyright. I had it bookmarked for some reason.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I heard about the "10%/one chapter" thing it back in high school, so I wasn't too sure how far that extended.

I was introduced to this proposal/piece of rubbish initially though a creative friend, and today I came across a link he gave me to a petition against it, though primarily though an artist/musician etc. point of view.

The page is http://creativefreedom.org.nz/ if you are interested in signing it or just seeing what they think. I'm glad that there are some people in this country who actually care about what's going on.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Im a New Zealander but currently living in Australia

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Stephen Fry has joined our plight! http://www.stuff.co.nz/4851675a28.html
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Newdonym.

Is the link in your post copyrighted?

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Sorry I am allowed one pointless post per day, NN said so!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4852936a28.html.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Master wrote:
nope all the kiwi's are in Australia


much to our displeasure Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ They weren't real Kiwis if they moved to Australia.

However, Australians aren't that bad when they're not telling sheep jokes.

Back on topic - I'm quite amazed to see that since I signed the petition there have been about 7000 more signatures.

If it does end up going through I am all for dobbing in the families of politicians supporting it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My understanding is that the law will force ISPs to disconnect anyone accused of copyright violations.

Well, just accuse anyone, the PM, Minister of Finance, Governor General, Chief of Police - the ISP would be obliged to disconnect them all.

And I thought that one of the basic tennants of the Westminster political system was that a person was innocent until proven guilty.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd expect that the government would have their own internet covered in anticipation of reports against them. Getting them through their families would be a more effective method of getting the point across. Well, so I've been convinced by some blogs about it that I've read the past few days.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Nelson Laughing

We'd also save the cost of the ISP bills to the tax payer.

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