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 My Mum went to Gambia & all she got was this lousy Scamm

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi all, I have just joined because I really need some help. I firmly believe that my dear old mum has been scammed for the best part of 10 years.

Some background:

10 years back my mum went on holiday to the Gambia - on her own as she often does. She came back with tales of gorgeous sand and scenery and 5 stray dogs. Yes, 5 of the mangy scamps. To put them through quarantine must have cost her 10K, but that's not where it ends, only where it starts. Oh, and she even appeared on TV because of this charitable stunt (and got a stalker out of it too...).

Now, the dogs are all dead, but my mum keeps her sense of philanthropy alive by sending money and gifts every now and then to a certain Abdou Jobe - a lad she befriended whilst out there. Over the years she has paid for a new bike, school equipment and college fees - and who knows what else (she doesn't tell me everything after all). Every once in a while my mum does get off her planet and asks me to check out if the guy if for real. I do my best to put her off, but she doesn't seem to be able to stop. Here is his latest email (note that the address/name details are left out for obvious reasons). Note also that he likes to address her as 'MUM' and it is partly this that guiles me so.

There are two things to note:

1. The burtontrust.com web address - a proper spoofed site if ever I saw one - check out the whois.org on it. Registered using cheapnames.com - hardly befitting a banking institution.
2. Telephone number used for corrspondance - it is 'attached' to the UK office, yet a mobile number - one that is of a similar range given often in scamming details.

BEGIN LATEST EMAIL

Subject: FW: very urgent .....need urgent respond from u


ben, any ideas if the link given for burtontrust (at bottom of these emails) is bona fide? abdou is the lad from The Gambia that i have helped put through school and who is now in a job. i don't know what he's on about as his english, though 150% better than my Gambianese, is not good enough for me to get an understanding.

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From: ABDOU JOBE [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 17 February 2009 18:56
To: Sue
Subject: RE: very urgent....need urgent respond from u


yes mum i have recieved the money u did send to me.
is not that case its something different.
just i want to know more about them and tell me about them please call to know if its bank or not.
its all about one of my friend case ok....later i will tell u more info ok. plz do it as soon as u can ok to find about them.
your son
abdou jobe

--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Sue wrote:



From: Sue
Subject: RE: very urgent mum.....need urgent respond from u
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 8:01 AM


abdou, i haven't heard of CIC. i gather you have already collected the money i sent over via western union?
you should have collected it at the same bank as normal.

if you haven't collected the money then don't do anything about this CIC until i find out more.

i'm going out now but if you receive this and let me have more information, i can pick your email up when i get back in.
sue

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From: ABDOU JOBE [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 16 February 2009 18:56
To: Sue
Subject: very urgent mum.....need urgent respond from u



Anyway mum my uniform are ready and i start using it to go for work.
But tomorrow i will scan my photos for u and i have already take the photo.

Mum for your information i need u to make enquire for me and give me correct detail about this bank. is very urgent mum and its something going on and later i will tell u all what is going on ok.

I want to know about them and its true about them.
This is the Customer Interaction Center (C.I.C) of Burton Latimer Investment & Trust Finance Ltd. We can confirm the availability of your funds from the Promotional Websites and the Heritage Funds, forwarded to us by Geek Associates, UK. We are glad we have been given the honour to transact this with you. The security code in the forwarded email from you, has been duly verified with the appropriate authorities.


here are there information and please call to confirm them and also make visit to there centre.

Our Representatives for accounts are available at +44.703.197.8591:
Monday - Friday
8 a.m. - 9 p.m. GMT
Saturday and Sunday
8 a.m. - 4 p.m. GMT

If you have additional questions about other Burton Latimer products or services, please call customer service at +44.703.197.8595.

and this is there address...............
High Street, Burton Latimer, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 5LA, UK.
and this is there website
http://burtontrust.com.

Please i wait to hear from u so soon and later i will feed u more info. very important mum.
your son
Abdou Jobe
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That all seems very dodgey.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The telephone number is not mobile. It is a personal redirectable number. It can be redirected anywhere in the world.

The only link I can find for Burton Latimer Investment & Trust Finance is that website. The postcode is correct for that address, but a google search for it shows no business with that or any similar name. Burton Latimer is the name of the town, so CIC maybe the name of a business on that street and the scammer is hoping the confusion with the town name will make it look more convincing.

Geek Associates doesn't sound like a reasonable name for a British company (There is a company in Pittsburg of that name). The email that Jobe quotes sounds very much like a scammer.

And yes, the domain name is registered for one year and is less than a month old.

On the other hand it certainly looks to me like it is Abdou Jobe that is being scammed by Burton Trust. He is simply asking your mother if they are real.

Of course, in his turn he may be taking more money from your mother than he needs, but that seems to be a relatively clean "scam". He doesn't seem to be offering your mother millions of dollars, and I don't get the impression from what you say that she is spending more money than she can afford. Some people here go after begging lads; they can be good sources of trophies, but I don't think they show the same level of criminality that the real scammers do.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Just looked quickly and visited through a proxy, but this reeks of fake bank--standard UK redirect number for phone no, plus very new registration, only a year, for a bank that has supposedly existed for 3 years (at least there are supposedly 3 years of annual reports). If it is supposed to be in the UK, then it is fake based on the English alone.

However, based on this and a couple of other lines from his emails:

Quote:
just i want to know more about them and tell me about them please call to know if its bank or not.


It sounds like at this point he is asking her to help him to determine whether the bank is real or not, which is not evidence that he is a scammer. The son/mum thing seems to be more of a cultural thing, and is not necessarily evidence of scam either.

I couldn't say either way whether he is a scammer, but there is no evidence in the info provided that he is.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Ironic really, and I think perhaps you are right - no one is safe from scammers.

One note of interest: I like the interest rates offered by BurtonTrust - approx 8.5% - which in today's climate is tempting!! LOL.

Thanks for all the input, I shall speak with my mother and try understand a little more about what is happening. It all feels to fishy - someone somewhere is getting scammed.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd say fake bank, registered for only a year:

Quote:

Created: 2009-01-23
Expires: 2010-01-23


(Edit: Just realised I'm about the third to say that)

Times out at the moment when I try and access it.

Burton Trust is not listed on the FSA Register either.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You could also try baiting him yourself and see what happens. Set up a fake email for yourself and send an ASEM(Accidently Sent EMail) saying something like:

Hey, sorry for the long delay in responding, can you tell me more about your proposition?



Or some variation of that. If he is a scammer, he'll probably send you a script detailing his latest scam which may be different than what your mother is being given. If legit, he may come back with a 'What are you talking about?' response. However he responds, you will have more insight and info to determine what it is he is up to.

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