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dutchkroket
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So, I recently received a possible (But highly likely) scammail from Irina.
As usual, I had to respond to a different email.

In the first email, she claimed to found my emailadres through Soul Mate service.
--> Awesome! didn't even know I was registered there. gotta check myself out someday.

I responded with a short return email. The typical thank you , etc, etc.

While awaiting her 2nd email, I've been looking around the internet concerning this particular scammer.
emailheader:
Received: from kdn.ktguide.com ([59.1.209.209]) by col0-mc3-f22.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:02:20 -0800
Received: from [59.1.209.209] by bougret.hpl.hp.com; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:02:20 +0900
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:02:20 +0900
From: "Yesenia Hewitt" <[email protected]>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.10) Business
Reply-To: [email protected]
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>


The dear girl responded today with below email. I found this one a little disturbing. especially the part concerning scammers....

Are the scammers getting smarter? I am definately convinced this particular Irina is a scammer.

Anyone else experienced below type emails yet?

I think ill be looking to get a mentor. The scambaiting is interesting. At least it keeps the scammer busy.

best regards,
Dutchkroket


Hello my new friend Ronald.
It is Irina. How are you? I am fine and become more better when
receive your answer to my message.I am sorry, for that that so long
did not answer you [24 hours is a long time indeed].. I had problems with mine inbox. If you still are
interested in me, here there is some information on me..

I get your E-mail at Soul Mate service - agency of
the international acquaintances in my city. At Soul Mate service to me
has told that you looking for women for serious relationships [oh really?] as me. I
have interest in acquaintance with you and having correspondence to
found each other better..

Now I have some free time and I will answer to you.... At first I want
to ask you that you always close read my letters and answer on all
questions which I will ask you in mine letters and also I will always
close read your letter and always honest to answer on your questions.
Simply i get tired from men on internet who even not read mine letters
and answer on it by a couple of lines and it insulting for me because
i spend usually not less than hour what to write letter. But if you
will notice that i not answer on any of your question please ask me
again and i will obligatory to answer it. Simply i am not so good in
English and sometimes simply can not understand or not notice
anything...[I got lost here already]

Thank you for spend time to write me [1 min]... I hoped that you will answer
to my message and very glad to have your answer. It show that internet
really work Smile I not so good user of computer and I feel myself a
little similar savage in it Smile I have a computer at home but not have
internet on it. I have learned to use it on rates of computer science
when I studied in college. I am paper worker in firm of advertising
and I work there already 4 years after I finished college. I like my
work very much not looking on that it sometimes become very rigid to
me. But I use to it and cope with it good, as I think. Now I write to
you from computer at mine work:-)

I live in Russia as probably you understand already, at city Perm.
I am 28 years old, my birthday on 29 of December. My growth is 171 cm,
weight is 51 kg... I hope you understand how much it in cm and kg,
probably at your country you have other things to measure weight and
growth....

I live with my sister in appartament not far from center of Perm
which we rent for us. Name of mine sister is Olga, she is 30 years
old. It is she advised to me try to search man through internet in
your country. Matter in that my sister one year ago also using those
agency acquaintances has got acquainted with one man. He live at your
country, but he is russian. He leave to your country already about
five years ago and till now he live there. His name is Eduard. He have
good work there, he is boss of one from branches of the big company
which is engaged in consulting. Eduard was at us on visitors on
last Xmas, also he plan to come again here soon to Olga birthday.
I am glad that mine sister have luck to find her soulmate... She was
alone too long... Eduard also was alone enough long time, he
lost his wife before leaving to your country....

Ok I will back to me...... Not looking on that that I am savage in a
computer Smile I not badly know English, which also I has studyed in
college. I can understand what you write and answer to you without
translator, but if we will to continue our correspondence I will use
translator sometimes if I to not will have time to answer to you,
because I spend much time to think what to write at first and after I
think how it better to write on English. I hope you not will against
it that sometimes i will use e-translator... Also I can speak and
understand but not so good as write because it more difficult to me
understand on voice than on reading. If our correspondence will
develop we can talk by phone one day in future. I am very glad that
with help of it all we can communicate with you. To Olga was more
easy to find and communicate with Eduard because they have no
language different.

Ok, now i should finish and back to work. I hope my letter not was too
boring for you and you still interesting in me. Probably you hear
about scammers - people who use photos of girls and saying words of
love and later asking for money. I hear in internet it is a lot of
similar vermins. So i want to say you that i am not one of them and i
would NEVER start ask you money. Especially i would never start write
you that i fall in love in you, because i consider that it is not
serious and a little absurd. I am here what to find right man with
which i can be happy and can develop serious relationships for real in
FUTURE not for relationships in internet. [scammer talking about scammers, interesting]

I applied a couple of mine photos what you know how i look, i hope you
like them. Please send me also more of your photos, I would want to
have it.

Ok, have great day! And write me soon.

Irina
[/b]


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Definitely a scammer. Also note the use of the mass mailer "the Bat!" in the headers, which allows mass mailing of scripts with ease.

It is actually not all that uncommon for scammers to include some kind of "I am not a scammer" disclaimer in their opening scripts these days.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome dutchkroket.

Quote:
From: "Dona Connelly" <[email protected]>

Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:32:56 -0530


google says vlad and also links to spamming of viagra.

Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks!
Vlad should be kept busy for a while me thinks.

Greetz,
dutchkroket
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

i've started with some innocent chatting with Vlad. I sent a "thank you for your email" type email. abt 3 lines. And got another truckload of text back. Absolutely no relation to what I wrote. the "lady" even referred to my email several times, while I never wrote about that stuff which she was referring to. Scripted stuff isn't really cool.

I'll need to draw Vlad to the pc to start writing himself. Got 2 lovely pics again, with family and friends. But the script is a bit boring to read through.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So sent him a nice (fake) picture too and explain that you work for WU as head clearing department, add a picture of your new car and ask his opinion.
Just keep doing that, sending the same email, until he runs out of script Laughing
Working for the WU does imply that you can't use their services of course Twisted Evil

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dutchkroket
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I told the lady that I work for an organisation that funds poor people (the short version here, wont post full version to keep things safe).

i'll be entertaining myself in photoshop tonight to brush up my new car. Great idea, thanks bill2 Smile.

Already got a new email again. The lady told me her parents died in a car crash. While in the previous email she showed a picture with her mother and some other family...

She also saw a lot of my country on television. She must be visionairy because untill now I didn't tell her where I live.

Anyway, time for some more preparation for the next email.
Only concern I have is that it's a hotmail.com emailaddress im using.
Some advice on this would be welcome. In case its a problem, i can always switch, since my account got "hacked". Just want to know if Hotmail is a good thing to keep using. The email address itself is a bogus address I used in the past to register on different sites.

cheers!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Dutchkroket, You might want to switch to a gmail account just to hide your IP. Though I hate the way gmail groups together all of your in and out emails.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ dutchkroket

It would depend whether the IP pointed too close to home. If I used Hotmail it would just give a city of 50,000 homes, so I would say that is fine.

Send yourself a mail and check where the IP shows.

http://www.ip-adress.com/

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I created a fake emailaccount on gmail.com. The hotmail address was pointing to a place too close for comfort. I don't want to take any chances. But unfortunately "irina" is not responding currently. Even though I haven't mailed yet through gmail (had a mail out from hotmail already).

Fortune does smile upon me, that a Natalia contacted me for some love.
I gave a beautiful response through my gmail account and setup the stage for some deep loving through the internet. Let's see if "she" takes the bait. She emailed me through gmail herself, so checking the origin is a bit difficult. I'll be working on that for a bit more.

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Dutchkroket,

Welcome to Eater,
If you have not already done so please take a look at the romance baiting sticky, there is lots of good advice in there on how to find and play with love scammers safely and effectively, you will find a link in my large signature line Wink

Nice research Kate Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for the welcome. Going to read the sticky Smile.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The 6th post has some good information about headers Wink

and this link will lead to loads of reading on what you can do with them http://spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/19.html

Edited as I forgot to add the link Embarassed it's there now

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That was some interesting reading. I hope that my "girls" will respond to my interest-email. Time to start baiting and have some good fun.

Got my character in place. Email is set-up and got a K7 phonenumber in case needed.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow, you are set up, I dont even have a K7 yet Wink

I am glad you took the time to read up, having done so will make your baiting experience much more rewarding Laughing

Please ask if you have any other questions and when you would like to read up some more, we have an Eater University that includes several romance baiting classes, you will find the Uni at the bottom of the index list.

Happy baiting

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

dutchkroket wrote:
I sent a "thank you for your email" type email. abt 3 lines. And got another truckload of text back. Absolutely no relation to what I wrote. the "lady" even referred to my email several times, while I never wrote about that stuff which she was referring to. Scripted stuff isn't really cool.

I'll need to draw Vlad to the pc to start writing himself. Got 2 lovely pics again, with family and friends. But the script is a bit boring to read through.


Unfortunately there on there script, and nothing will get them off it, until there ready, or the softening up process is well under way. The chances are there not bothering to read your replies, That's why the replies bear no relation to what you have spend time to write. In some cases, your reply e-mail simply triggers the next scripted reply. This can run for 15 or 20 e-mail's Then you might get a couple of "I love you and can't live without you e-mails" then the script for money requests starts all over again. And you might get a load of scripted requests, on how she can't possible raise the cash to visit.

However if you do discover how to break there script pattern, Please, please let us ALL know. Wink Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Got things running with 2 scripts. First one sends pictures. Second one sends pictures and even small movies of herself. Awesome stuff. In case I get them offscript, i'll offcourse let you now. But I guess it will definately be hard for that to occur.
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