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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow, you guys are pro's. I wish I had the time to participate in this, but I have 2 jobs already, and don't need a third.

I got taken in the very first part of a scam today. First time. I gave them my address and phone number. They replied to an add I had for a vacation rental. Sounded legit, they would send the deposit... and of course now, they say they sent toooo much and want me to IMMEDIATELY send it back by Western Union. Argghhh I hate being scammed. And he is sooo smooth, not trying to get alot, just enough to "ship his equipment" to the states while he, a medical professional, participates in a week long seminar.

Besides being a bit worried peeved at the moment that they got my name/address/phone number. I would just love to see them hanging by their...

I am only slightly worried about them having my address. Now I just want to get even. I want blood of course, but hair pulling will do. Would others here like to help drive the guy insane?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Others here may disagree but in my opinion, your scammer is likely a punk with no resources to do anything nasty to you w/ your address. However, you just don't know. I would not loose any sleep over it.

The protocol is for you to cease all communication.

You'll likely have many baiters offering to toy with your scammer on this thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

juju4u wrote:

You'll likely have many baiters offering to toy with your scammer on this thread.


Yeppers!

Wanna post his/her details! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

We'll revenge bait the hell out of him. Very Happy

I also agree with Juju4u - Err on the side of safety and leave him be and ignore.

Welcome to eater. You will become addicted and will have to give up one of your jobs to make time for baiting.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Nurse Nasty wrote:
You will become addicted and will have to give up one of your jobs to make time for baiting.


You don't need sleep, just bait between 1 and 6 am.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for the advice of not contacting the guy anymore. I was considering playing along for awhile and see what I could get him to do, but since he has my actual contact info, I will just drop him.

Hmmmm, drop him where???? I know. 419 eater Smile

His email is [email protected]

He contacted from my Craigslist post in Seattle for vacation rentals. I suppose he probably responded to a bunch of the adds on CL or something like that. This is the 1st email he sent me.

Quote:
Hello, I am Larry ,from ROME , ITALY 50 yrs Medical professional .I'm coming over to your location for a short training.Hope is It's still available.


So, you could probably just pretend to be another apartment in Seattle, or maybe even another city.

Let the games begin Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Jeez, he can't even bother to change 'your location' to the name of the city in the initial e-mail! Lazy, lazy, lazy, Larry...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My russian hooker persona isn't very busy at the moment.

She has just sent a first contact.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Hey Larry,

As listed, the apartment is in wonderful condition and priced at what I believe is an incredible deal.

There is the issue of the brothel next door, but the women have ceased with the sexual conduct on the apartment's doorstep. One tends to get used to the various noises coming from said brothel after awhile as well.

Let me know when you would like to come and view the apartment!

Sincerely


Lets see what this lads got.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ hehe we could be neighbours Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh go on then, I haven't done a comedy bait in a while..

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Good morning!

Thank you for your enquiry about the property available for rent. I can confirm it is still available. Please let me know when you would like to come to view it, and also please confirm that you are willing to undergo the stringent medical testing that will be performed by Doctor Helena Russell on arrival. The good news is that Disposal Area 2 is now considerably safer since the problems we had with it a few years ago, so that should not cause you any concern.

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Needless to say, there isn't a Western Union around here for a few million miles, and the Eagle won't fly that far.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Nice touch with the brothel. Maybe that will be interesting to the lad.

I just got a new scam letter. I rarely get them. I think the original lad has sold my email to a list, or maybe just using another persona.

This one is a standard "I am representing a dead official".

Maybe I need a new email / persona and start working with you. I have read some of the threads and how you stick together and very effectively drive these lads nuts.

Here is the header and some bits and pieces of the last email if you want another lad to educate.

Quote:

Received: by 10.114.158.15 with SMTP id g15cs172903wae;
Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:52:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.214.218.16 with SMTP id q16mr6351441qag.353.1233744774711;
Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:52:54 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from xsmtp14.mail2web.com (xsmtp14.mail2web.com [168.144.250.179])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 33si7201059yxr.32.2009.02.04.02.52.47;
Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:52:54 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of [email protected] designates 168.144.250.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=168.144.250.179;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of [email protected] designates 168.144.250.179 as permitted sender) [email protected]
Received: from [10.5.14.9] (helo=exfe04.ad2.softcom.biz)
by xsmtp14.mail2web.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <[email protected]>)
id 1LUfMS-0005JE-40; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:52:46 -0500
Received: from CL5EXBE04.ad2.softcom.biz ([10.5.13.20]) by exfe04.ad2.softcom.biz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
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X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C986B6.536D46CA"
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:49:59 -0500
Message-ID: <[email protected]z>
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: i believe we can work together
Thread-Index: AcmGtlNmlNhw+7KKQ+qY6zRS1qNysQ==
From: "Richard Ellen" <[email protected]>
Bcc:
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2009 10:50:00.0357 (UTC) FILETIME=[53B8F550:01C986B6]
Subject: i believe we can work together

Hello,
... being utterly "CONFIDENTIAL".
...<snip/>
I am Mr. Richard Ellen, of Dept of Bill and Exchange with National Wide
Bank in the United Kingdom. I need your consent to handle this
transaction because it entails a large amount of funds (6.4 Million GBP) deposited by a deceased customer in our bank who died long time ago but has an open beneficiary mandate on his file though, there has not been anyone from his family to make claim of this funds.
<snip/>
stand as next of kin to my deceased client
<snip/>
lost their life in Kenya air crash in 2003
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/07/20/kenya.crash/index.html
<snip/>

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome to Eater somerenter. In the future, feel free to post your scam emails in the Surplus Forum for everyone to see.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

OxygenDeprived wrote:
Welcome to Eater somerenter. In the future, feel free to post your scam emails in the Surplus Forum for everyone to see.


Gothcha, thanks Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome to Eater somerenter. I see two potential problems here. I am not accusing anyone of baiting us but we have this ITP rule and also hate to be scammed. Your lad's email only Googles back to your Eater posting and of course there was no original script, just his/her reply. We try not to pile on an email address or phone pimp a number until we know for sure that it does not belong to an innocent third party. I believe that it was because you were almost victimized and your lad has your details that members here would like to help you by distracting the lad from you with their baiting characters. I think the modality of just dropping all contact is the best. I hope that the lad did not open this Gmail box for only your CL offering. If that is the case, he would know that you are responsible for the 419Eater pile on and probably will not do anything but that is not what we call safe baiting.

@ All- Has anyone that has piled on the lad received a response?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not a peep back to M4gda...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Connie

Yes.

Quote:
Hey,

Thank you for your prompt reply. interested in taking the place for one week.from the MARCH 30 . to - April 7 .Please get back to me as soon as you can with:the final asking price for the one week. I don't smoke and don't have any pet and no kid and its just me alone coming..I have got a few machines,books and luggage for my research and training.I would like have the place booked urgently,as my sponsor will issue a Certified Bank Check/Cashier as a mode of payment for full payment:So kindly get back to me with:

1.Full name to issue payment to

2.Full Address to mail payment to.

3.working phone #s.

Send me the address of the place i am renting so i can look it up on the Google map.As soon as all these have been emailed to me,payment will be overnight to you.Waiting to read from you.
Thank


Definite overpayment scam.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

That is the same form letter that he sent me.
Sadly, I bite and give him my info. His next letter though is what made me realize what was up. That's when he said his sponsor had overnighted extra funds and needed a refund. I was supposed to get the extra cashiers check yesterday. I will let you know if it comes in today. Now I know if it even does come in, that it will be fake. I will have the bank verify of course.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Somerenter

I wouldn't take it to your bank.

You could bring yourself under scrutiny by walking into a bank with an item that you even "suspect" is fraudulent.

Best to just wipe your a$$ with them and move on.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

the lads next reply to me was
Quote:

date Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:02 PM
subject PAYMENT BREAK-DOWN
mailed-by gmail.com

Hi,
How are you doing.this is to inform you that the payment was issued and was mailed out.However,my Sponsor added an over payment which is the delivery fee for the properties i am bringing over.My Sponsor is from the States...He assumed he was paying all the expenses so issued the payments all together.
So i believe i can trust you to handle this for me deligently and honestly?Please as soon as the payment gets to you,deduct the rental fee plus and additional $100 for yourself and help me have the rest sent to the DELIVERY COMPANY:so that they can have my luggage and other stuff delivered before my arrival.
The delivery fee will have to be sent over to the company via MONEY GRAM or WESTERN UNION.
So as soon as the payment gets to you my properties will be on it way.I will email back with the actual amount that was issued and sent.Also,with the Ups tracking # for the payment and the Delivery Company's Information from China where you will send off the rest of the Money to.

Attached is a copy of my recent picture.I hope to see your in your reply.Thanks

Cheers!!!
=============================================

PAYMENT BREAK-DOWN
=============================================
In regards to my previous email: the amount that will reach you is - $3000

RENT FEE : $872
........................................................
RUNNING AROUND : $100.00
........................................................
DELIVERY FEE : $2028
.........................................................
TOTAL : $3000

Please take note : as soon as you receive the payment,deduct the rent fee and running around fee.And get the rest sent off to the delivery company:i will email you their information in my next email: Send the payment via Money Gram or Western Union.Please can you come pick me up at the Airport?Once i arrive,i can call you: Only if you are chanced.

Regards


I relized I was scammed but was "slipping into denial" and thought "just in case, I will send a short polite 'I will help if I can' reply". I did, and he hasn't emailed me since, nor I to him, thats when I found 419 Eater.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

blah wrote:
I wouldn't take it to your bank. You could bring yourself under scrutiny ...


Thanks, I didn't think of that.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

somerenter wrote:

Thanks, I didn't think of that.


Had you actually lost any money to these guys by unknowingly trying to cash a fake check then I would encourage you to go to your bank and explain what happened.
But seeing as you never lost any money to them or presented a fake check to your bank I would just say let it go.
If you can avoid having your name associated with "fake check" at your bank then I would definitely go that route.

Law enforcement can't do much with these guys unless they are somewhere in the USA, and the scammer being in the USA is very unlikely.

I'll post up some of his replies as soon as I get the a$$hat off script. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ blah- Great job.

@ somerenter- You may want to take a marker and write "FAKE" across the check you have received.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I hope this post is within eaters's use guidlines.

The original lad did get back to me. He apologized for the check not getting here yet, he has been busy... his father was in surgery.

Yeah right, he was just giving me time to bite on the kenya airplane crash sob story. I didn't, so now he is back to try another tact.

arghh, I wish there was a faster way to get him off my tail than ignoring him. I have realized that replying to spam with a remove request only multiplies it.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

See if you can set up a bounce in your mail client.

If you apply it to his email address you will never have to see him again.

He definitely doesn't want a flat share with a hooker...

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