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son of crazymum
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd given up baiting for the last year or two (it can really envelop your life), but thought I'd have a wind-up for old times sake when a friend of mine nearly got scammed on Gumtree. It started the usual way - flat up for rent that was too good to be true. She applied for it and got the old "forward me a deposit to Western Union" crap - thankfully she new about these scammers after me showing her previous successful baits. She was genuinley gutted, as she really needed somwhere to stay, and hadnt realised it was a scam until a few days into the correspondence.

So I offered to take over. Now my friend is French (and gets the piss taken out of her constantly for it) - so I thought I'd play on some French stereotypes. There are also some in-jokes that may not be funny to others, but you might be entertained at just how much bullshit the scammer is prepared to ignore.

I knew Id never get any trophies, this was more just an exercise in entertaining my friends and demonstrating how persitent these lads can be.

The scammer was named Katherina, and my friend was Lucile. She was looking for a place to stay with her friend Stella. I'll skip the opening emails - its the usual crap. I'll pick it up where she begins to smell a rat...

Hi Katherina,
so sorry not to have written today. Its just been really busy at work.

I do of course want to proceed. There are a few things I am concerned
about. One of them is what details you need to know from the Western
Union transfer I do to my friend. I obviously can't give you all of
the details from the transfer as that would allow you to take the
money out before we meet. What I could do is email you across a
confirmation of the transfer once its gone through and then give you
all of the details once my friend has withdrawn the money. Would this
be ok for you?

Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks so much,

Lucile

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Hi Lucile,
Thanks for your email.I hope you have a stress free day.I want you to
erase all negative thought in you.Let us put our heart together and
face the future.I am not here to take anybody money.I am a legit
person.I need to confirm the transfer before your friend collects the
money.I want you to trust me and i promise you will never regret doing
this.I just need to be sure before i can come down.
After the transfer just mail me the receipt of the transaction so that
i can confirm it.Once i confirm it,i will mail you so that you can
tell your friend to collect it and we meet up.

Thank You
Katherina


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*** THIS IS THE PART WHERE I TAKE OVER*******

Hi Katherina
Thanks for your last email - it has put my mind at rest a lot more. I spoke to Stella yesterday and we are are both still very keen to make this happen as quickly as possible. Im going to the Western Union today to transfer the money - when this is done can we arrange to see the place in the next few days? Stella is getting the train over from France tomorrow for a couple of days, so if we could both come see the place on Monday or Tuesday that would be great.
You said in the description that the place has a garden. Is it going to be a problem if Stella and I farm garlic in there? Also, about once or twice a year, we like to bring home a petite vache to just slap about for a while before eating it. Its sort of a French tradition, and sometimes English landlords don't really understand, so I thought I'd raise it with you first.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Lucile

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Hi Lucile,

How are you doing?I am sorry for getting back to you late.I went out with some friend.I just got back now.

There is no problem if you and Stella farm garlic on it.I have no problem with that.Anyhow,when we meet,we talk about all this.We can meet on Monday.That is okay with me.Let me know if you have go about the transfer so that i can confirm it and book my ticket to come down to show you the place.
Let me know if there is any development.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards,
Katherina

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Hi Katherina
Here is the receipt for the transfer - I hope this can now confirm for
you and we can go ahead. Stella and I can meet you at the property on
Monday morning - it would have to be early so I can still get to work
on time. Shall we say 7.30am?
I think this place will be ideal for us - its right by the Thames. We
are looking forward to riding our bicycles down the side of the river,
singing "Alouette, gentille Alouette" whilst playing the accordion and
smoking a Gauloise. Do you think the neighbours would object to the
sound of a goose being force-fed at 4 hour intervals throughout the
day and night? Its best to check before hand.
I look forward to seeing you Monday - do you have a contact phone
number so we can call you?
Lucile


**** THANKS FOR THE WU RECEIPT GENERATOR I FOUND ON HERE
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3428/3196227069_3e1b3b4148.jpg?v=0[/img]
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Hi Lucile,
I have been waiting for your mail and ready to plan for our meeting on Monday.I just got the receipt now and i try to verify the transaction using this Link
https://wumt.westernunion.com/asp/orderStatus.asp?country=global
I was told that there is no money available.I am sorry i need to confirm that the Money is there so that i will be 100% sure about it before i can book my ticket and meet you..Have the receiver collects the money.Our agreement is that i confirm the fund before the receiver collect the money.is this a Game or what.I am sorry i will like to hear from you so that i will know what is happen.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Thank You
Katherina

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*****SHIT, I DIDNT REALISE YOU COULD CHECK THESE ONLINE - NO WASTED TRIPS TO THE LOCAL WU BRANCH

Hi Katherina
Of course the money was collected - that was what you said to do in
your previous email. Ive never used Western Union before, so was just
doing what you instructed. Tiny Rick had to go into town and carry all
those bank notes back to me - he could barely lift them with his
miniscule body, which is about the size of an ant. I thought the idea
was just to show you that I had the money available - why would you
need to have access to it?
Im not sure what the delay is - a ticket from Portsmouth to London
only costs £18.40 - it cost more than that in fees to do the Western
Union transfer. Stella only has a couple of days here, so we would
like to see the place as soon as possible.
Im not trying to be difficult, as I really want this flat. Maybe you
can explain more clearly what it is that you need. This flat sounds
amazing - I am 100% genuine and committed to getting it. Im looking
forward to spending long summer afternoons on strike, hanging out in
the hot-tub drinking wine and eating onions. Does the garden have a
view over the Thames? Id like to be able to shoot pigeons from there
(not to eat them - just really hurt them).
Kind Regards
Lucile

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Hello Lucile,

Thanks for the email and also for your effort in making this work out though I will like you to be considerate of the fact that I've had so many time wastage offers and it has really been frustrating for me so that was why I said I will need to verify with western union that there are funds available before I come down.

This is a copy of the last message I sent you "Hi Lucile,

>> Thanks for your email.I hope you have a stress free day.I want you to
>> erase all negative thought in you.Let us put our heart together and
>> face the future.I am not here to take anybody money.I am a legit
>> person.I need to confirm the transfer before your friend collects the
>> money.I want you to trust me and i promise you will never regret doing
>> this.I just need to be sure before i can come down.
>> After the transfer just mail me the receipt of the transaction so that
>> i can confirm it.Once i confirm it,i will mail you so that you can
>> tell your friend to collect it and we meet up.
>>
>> Thank You
>> Katherina".


With this above, I clearly stated that I need to verify the transfer with western union which is contrary to what you said in your message that you were following my instructions.

On this note, I will suggest a re-do of the transfer and you can make it this time to Stella since you'll both be viewing the flat together and when we're done with the viewing, Stella can then go to western union to get the funds for me.

All transfer charges on western union will be at my expense so i will ask you of the total when we meet.


Let me know what you think of this as i'm been optmistic that we'll work this out.


Cheers,

Katherina.
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Hi Katherine
OK - There is no need to point out my errors - as I said Ive never
used Western Union before so Im trying my hardest to get this right. I
went into town again today and got this transfer done - you are lucky
as the Western Union office only opens for a short time on a Sunday.
Ive attached the receipt, so we can now go ahead. Ive set my alarm
early for tomorrow morning - what time is your bus getting in from
Portsmouth? How is Portsmouth at this time of the year? I bet the
extensive snowfall we have had over the last few days must look
spectacular on the mountains there. Do you ever go ice-skating when
the channel freezes over like this? I love ice-skating - put prefer
surrendering to the Germans.
Bonjour à vous, mon peu singe d'escroquerie.
Lucile


[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3427/3196227073_f972364978.jpg?v=0[/img]

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Hi Katherina
Just checked my email and I still havent heard from you. Is everything
OK? Are we still on for tomorrow morning? I hope we are still all good
- Stella and I have been chatting all afternoon about the flat. We
just had a couple more questions. Stella and I own about 3 or 4
hundred berets between us - will there be enough storage space to keep
them? Also, Stella has a pet smurf which she keeps in a small cage.
Its very clean, and we can keep it outside, but would prefer to keep
it indoors if we are allowed. Finally, we have mime classes on
Wednesday night, and like to host sometimes, so is the garden big
enough for about 20 French people, all trying to escape from an
invisible box?
Looking forward to seeing you in the morning. Shall we just meet
outside the flat?
C'est bon poulet!
Lucile
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Hi Lucile,

Thanks for the mail and I'm happy that we finally found a way out on this, it's not as if I was trying or pointing out your mistakes but rather was trying to be on clear terms with what I have instructed.

I got the attached receipt and I'm still yet to confirm the validity of the transfer since I cannot find the 10 digit code on the receipt. Can you please write that out in your next email so that I can go ahead with verification and then plan ahead for our meeting tomorrow so as to let you know necessary details also?


Hope to hear from you soon.

Regards,
Katherina
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Hi Katherina
Im not sure what code you need. I assumed it was on the receipt that
was stapled to the front.
Ive reattached a copy without the receipt - you can see most of the
other info on there.
Sorry about the blood stain - I was on the way home and saw a veal
calf in a field. I had to run over and just punch it in the face as
hard as I could - it's my duty as a French national. It cried and bled
for a little while and calmed down, so I punched it again and left. I
was holding the form at the time and it got a bit dirty.
You havent answered any of my questions about the living requirements,
but I suppose we can discuss this tomorrow. I still want to clear up a
few things, like if Im allowed to wax my moustache in any of the rooms
apart from the bathrooom, and if it's OK for us to build a snail farm
in the elevator. You also said in your description that the flat has a
"Diswasher" - Im not familiar with what this device is. My
understanding of the word "Dis" is to insult someone (like if I told
you that you mother was a rancid spunk receptacle with a face like a
slapped twat, who felates goats in exchange for crack). Im not sure
how you would wash one.
Anyway, I'll see you bright and early - Im off to bed now.
Bon soir
Lucile


[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3427/3196227075_c4f06e837f.jpg?v=0[/img]

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Hi,

Thanks for the mail again, i've not answered any of the question because it's what we can talk about on meeting.

From the word "Diswasher", you should know that it was just a typographical error so you need not to make an unnecessary attention about that because you ought to understand that just the letter "H" is missing between the "s" and "w" of the word.

I got the receipt and you do not need to send me attached receipts again, just write out the the name of the sender of transfer and also the money transfer control number (10 digits), i think it's the one on the corner of where the blood stain is on the receipt and then i can verify with western union from here (https://wumt.westernunion.com/asp/orderStatus.asp?country=global) to know the status of the transfer.

Thats all for now,

Cheers,

Katherina.
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Hi Katherina
Well I am very confused - why did you not meet us this morning? We
waited at the property for 2 hours, and I was late for work. Are you
even in London right now? I tried calling the buzzer at the address,
which seemed more like a gothic castle than a block of flats. Somebody
called "The Claw" spoke to me - he was a hideously deformed man with a
strange accent and a giant crab-like hand. He kept babbling on about
his revenge upon mankind for the shame of his monstrous hand, and
every time he spoke there was thunder and lightning. Is he a friend of
yours, or the current tenant in the property?
Can you come meet me again tonight after work? I can be there for 7pm.
I cant afford to waste time, as Stella has to return tomorrow.
As for the Diswasher confusion - you have to undertand that I am
French and so have no concept of washing or personal hygiene, and so
do not know of such a device. I thought it was odd that you said "Dis"
as in to insult (such as me saying "you are a lying scam artist with
the brain of a wasp. You smell like a turd covered in burnt hair and
enjoy guzzling your uncles cum from a bukkake trumpet"). Thank you for
clearing up the misunderstanding.
So I shall see you tonight - please dont stand me up again. Id hate to
think you were some kind of joker - you're not a joker are you
Katherina?
Votre mère le reçoit dans l'anus!
Lucile

____________________________________________________________

Oh i see,i havnt confirm the transfer,can you provide me with the money transfer control number so that i can check the transfer and book my ticket to come down.i am sorry i need to confirm the transaction before i can come down.

__________________________________________________________


Hi Katherina
So am I right in thinking you are not even in London at the moment?
Are you some kind of joker? I hope you are not wasting my time. I need
you to trust me and go buy a ticket right away - how are you expected
to make the 8 hour bus journey to London in time for tonight? Do it
right away and send me the reference number so that I know you are
serious.
I have looked on the form and I dont know what number you are refering
to. There is a code on the receipt saying URA419MUGU - is that the one
you need? I thought you said that when you are here in London we all
go to the Western Union together and collect the £500?
Please go book your ticket right away - Stella is heading back
tomorrow so we need to see the place tonight. Im still very keen on
getting the flat so that Stella and I can set up our French maid
brothel service there. If you have been wasting my time I will insert
a baguette in your cul.
Bouffe ma queue calisse de fag.
Lucile

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****I GUESS I LOST HER / HIM AT THIS POINT, SO WENT FOR A SLAP...

Hi Katherina
I just got back from the property again, and you stood me up again.
What the fuck is wrong with you? The Claw was so enraged when I
disturbed him a second that he went on a rampage around town, snipping
of peoples heads with his massive deformed hand. The finally fended
him off with pitchforks and burnt his castle to the ground. How am I
supposed to live in a flat that has been on set fire? Answer me that?
ANSWER ME!!
Tiny Rick was so upset by his wasted trip that he stabbed about 15
people. Stella has now returned to France to smoke Gauloise, play
boules and drink red wine at 9am. You have upset a lot of people,
Katherina. For shame.

I think you need to and sit in a corner and have a long, hard think
about what you have done.

Here is a poem I wrote in French for you. Its called "Timewasting
Mugu" by Lucile Weigel 2008

Nne gi na Nna gi na umunnegi nile nwukwa idiot. Nne gi bu akwunna. Nna
gi na ara mkpuru amu. Amu jie gi. Agwo tupiakwa gi anya. Egbe burukwa
umu gi. Ama nna gi chiekwa. Chineke kpokwa gi oku.
Onye ohi, igaghi ahu ife oma na ndu gi. Ka m juo gi? Mugua obu Nne gi
ka obu Nna gi? Olee i he ina ebere akwa, You bastard. Uchu gba kwa gi
,onye aji ike nsi,ihere adighi eme gi,otule di ka gi.
AJI OTU NNE GI OOOOOOOO. O GI KA M GA EJI EME YA, GI NA UMU NNE GI
Chineke kpokwa gi oku,

Bon Soir to you, silly mugu timewaster.

Lucile xxx


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"you are a bastard, so to say, let me ask you one question,what is your
profession. all your cours has follow your genaration including your
mum and dad. bastard."

"you dey fuck you sister the same mama the same papa.
Snake don bite you.
you bi dog.
your mama toto the sweet.
the last time way i fuck your mama,she nearly finished me oooooo.
Her toto they smell,abeg make you help me tell am say make she they wash the toto well well befor i go come fuck again ooo.and make una keep money for me after i don fuck am so i go get strainght to fuck again.if no bi so, if she invite me i no go come ooooo."
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome back to Eater. Very Happy
First and foremost, from reading your post, it sounds like you just took over writing in your friends email acct. I really hope that the scammer does not have any of her personal info as that wouldn't be baiting safe.

Sadly the lads can indeed check WU numbers online, but for MG they still need to walk to the store to verify. Search around the forums (sorry, I don't have my links at the ready) and many baiters have created a number of tools to help drive the lads nuts at the WU stage.

Personally, I wouldn't have burned the lad at the end, but a French poem was indeed an interesting way to do it. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

ah yes - how do the french express their angst? through poetry!

It is actually a compilation of Igbo insults that Ive been sent over the years, so Im hoping that "Katherina" will have less difficulty understanding it. I guess she doesnt speak French, as each of my emails is signed off with something insulting her mother or such like.

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"you are a bastard, so to say, let me ask you one question,what is your
profession. all your cours has follow your genaration including your
mum and dad. bastard."

"you dey fuck you sister the same mama the same papa.
Snake don bite you.
you bi dog.
your mama toto the sweet.
the last time way i fuck your mama,she nearly finished me oooooo.
Her toto they smell,abeg make you help me tell am say make she they wash the toto well well befor i go come fuck again ooo.and make una keep money for me after i don fuck am so i go get strainght to fuck again.if no bi so, if she invite me i no go come ooooo."
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sonofcrazymum,

1st, As OD noted hope there isn't a concern with the email address?

2nd, This was great Smile I love how you seamlessly incorporated the business at hand with the attendant (hilarious!) questions and insults Laughing
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