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 Interesting possible scam, but is it?

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D11
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Long time no see, missed you all i was ill with horrible ear infection.

Anyhow in my daily shouting at her to check me email came across this:

suspicious

Now ive been around too long to see when something sounds too good to be true it might well be - but the guys insisting that its because it needs to be kept secret that it sounds like a pyramid scheme and that the £150 is just to eliminate "time wasters"

We have all heard of this before right? YUP so what do you guys think?

its a scam right?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Has pyramid written all over it IMHO

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Secret money things (pay 150 pounds and get 666% return on it per week for only a couple hours of work but I can't give away any details!) are always suspicious. And the odds that this guy has figured out such a unique opportunity, and has to solicit donations before talking to anyone (because, of course, no serious big investor would recognize the inherent worth of this unique, revolutionizing idea) is doubly suspicious.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yea im fairly certain its a scam but the guys so adamant, i was in bed on tramadol when my other half found it lol, i was like gimme the keyboard and shes like nooooo

I think he needs a few baiters to let him know perhaps?

I cant see it being genuine -
the up front fee to eliminate time wasters - alarm bell 1
the cant tell you its soooo good - alarm bell 2
dont have to part with cash until they know - alarm bell 3
legal team said it was ok - alarm bell 4
if they say what it is it cant be done - alarms and an air raid siren
He uses the phrase "risk free" nuclear alarm lmao -

I think we should join and voice our concerns.

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Infact anyone who has concerns should call me and not write any libelous comments on this forum.

I also rang SEO2/Keith and left a message on a recording this morning. Apparently he did not get this message either. However, we have since spoken and I await his response.

The whole purpose of starting this thread was for research purposes only to see if there were enough open minded entrepreneurs out there willing to express an interest in a new business idea.

I have repeatedly explained that no one is to pay any money until I have told them exactly what they are getting into.

I am initially looking for 100 people in the UK. I do not want a thousand timewasters who will not make this work. The contract would give us the right to return the £150 and cancel the contract if anyone within the 100 were not making it work and making money. So no risk involved.

The 100, as I have repeatedly explained would then look for other people who are interested in making money. The people they recruited would not have to invest a penny. They would be provided with a business opportunity for zero investment. Therefore no risk and no danger of ever losing a penny.

there is no downline, no upline, no pyramid of any nature. Only managers and reps who don'y have anything to sell.

Having explained a brief outline to Debs who has had dealings with me before; she instantly grapsed the concept and saw the huge potential. Please do not embarrass her by trying to extract info from her that was given in confidence.


Now call me stupid but havent we all seen those tactics 100's of times before? wonder if this is a lad with a new angle?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Your new benefactor sure looks like an arrogant prick! Click. He reminds me of this guy. Click.

I don't think it is the normal scam we are accustomed to (advanced fee fraud). This smells more like the MLM, Pyramid and Amway variety.

Edit: I also highly recommend the book Amway: The Cult of Free Enterprise by Stephen Butterfield. It gives an interesting look inside the world of Amway. Here is the Amazon link. Click

*If there are any Amway fans in the audience please send your hate mail to my catcher account. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^

To be fair Frank, the potential "benefactor" is actually some guy calling himself Paul Herbert posting on the Peter Jones' blog "Community Page". The profile you found is of Peter Jones.

As Peter Jones is a UK millionaire and wannbe TV celebrity with legitimate businesses; I don't think he'd want to be associated with a pyramid.

Unfortunately, the "Contact me" link on his blog appears to be broken - I tried both FF and IE7

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If anyone insists they aren't running a pyramid scheme, it's a pyramid scheme.
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2008/11/pyramid_gifting.html

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Old No. 7 wrote:
To be fair Frank, the potential "benefactor" is actually some guy calling himself Paul Herbert posting on the Peter Jones' blog


Thanks for the clarification 7.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Silenced and made to back off by threats

I heard a rumour the guy seowriter2 was made to post his retraction by threats
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think I will send him the £150 by western union digital-one
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

If the scheme is that great that it generates cash from thin air with no up or downlines, can you imagine the bank not lending him the 15k, so he can go crazy making millions?
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D11
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I already offered him 150 via wu Laughing

he didnt want it - so the question now is, just sitting on hands waiting for him to provide more information.


So far its all smoke and mirrors with him, but theres a little bit more too it atm, so please bear with me, whilst i get some mod to try to get to the bottom of it.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm not sure what that is- it isn't AFF. Strikes me more as an internet parasite?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^You still work here? Where the hell have you been?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Ive given up on it.

It made my head hurt!

whatever paul herbert is doing looks suspect, but until he actually does something theres nothing i can do Sad

btw he mentioned 6p formula, google has little or no reference to that other than probability gambling, anyone know what that actually is?

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