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Ferdinand
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24642117-23375,00.html

Apologies if this has already been posted.

It kind of got my back up a tad.

Apparently, we are all geeky, racist homophobes who treat our lads no better than the prisoners at abu graib Shocked

I wonder if she feels as sorry for an old widow who has just lost the lot due to these scum.


I think a mass bait is in order Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I posted this same story in Main just now, but deleted my post after noticing your post here.

Darn ladhuggers...these guys haven't done any research on baiting at all. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

OOOOOO!!! look Mavis, it's another one of them lad hugging journos, that really should have done more research and spoke to the victims and a spokesperson for this site.

I do like the digilante quote though. It makes me sound edgy and dangerous, Shocked Laughing Makes a change from being called a dilatante, I suppose.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd hope he's a better journalist than he is an immunologist, but his analogy sounds cool without being accurate, which pretty much sums up his journalistic style.

Having come a hairs breadth from losing my immune system last year I read up on the subject. I suggest he does the same about baiting too before passing comment.

Baiters do it better (than hacks). Cool

... and why pray does he quote British statistics ?

Are there no Australian baiters ? (we know otherwise) or Australian victims ? (we know otherwise).

Lazy journalis(m)t.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Awwww, poor scammers.

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Obviously he needs to acquaint himself with "dark humor" because I find this hysterical. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

She needs to get off her damn high horse.

I guess the lads don't willingly send these pics. - She's an idiot and should spend more time researching the damage the scammers do to people's lives instead. Rolling Eyes

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Conning what looks like an entire village into posing with "arse bandit" signs seems to be taking things an Abu Ghraib too far


She clearly missed the tattoos. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

lotta wrote:
She clearly missed the tattoos.


That's what I was thinking. If she's upset by some signs how would she feel about the tats--or one of the wicked evil safaris? Shocked Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Or the baaaaaad photos? We can blame NN for it, she/he talked me into going along with that. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I hope someone points her to us, so we can have a pleasant talk. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^

I sent her an email. Amongst other things I invited her to join...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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Straight-baiters rarely get any nastier than childish sneering in their final "ha ha, I tricked you" message. But elite practitioners (or master baiters, as they like to call themselves) treat scam-baiting as an out and out blood sport.


[1] Who burns the Lads these days?

[2] The elite don't call themselves Master Baiters - do you NN, YW, Shiver and JJB and others?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:29 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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[2] The elite don't call themselves Master Baiters - do you NN, YW, Shiver and JJB and others?


Nope, we call them assholes these days, (well except for shiver, he still is a god to us Laughing Laughing ) and they love it. Wink Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Well there was some fine words of balanced reporting. Describing us as;

"brutal underground warriors"
"ruthless"
"childish"
engaging in "blood sport"
"geeky"
"crass, cold-blooded and possibly even homophobic and racist"
Shiver got off fairly lightly as the "dark prince".

Gee, anyone else suspect that [email protected] is baiting us?

I get the very strong impression that this "learned journalist" considers that the scammers we target are solely purveyors of the greed-inspired NOK or dodgy funds transfer variety; pointedly ignoring the pet scams, payment reprasentative scams, adoption scams, lottery scams, craigslist scams, romance scams, etc..

I suspect that this person has got hold of a tiny, teensie scrap of a scambait epic and then tarred all baiters with the same brush. A pity.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

No doubt Emma will read this thread sometime later today.

I've sent her a note explaining one or two things including a link to this thread.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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I suspect that this person has got hold of a tiny, teensie scrap of a scambait epic and then tarred all baiters with the same brush.

Of course she has -- she's a journalist.

I wouldn't get too upset over this, folks.

All publicity, even ignorant publicity, is liable to help our cause. We should be thankful she's even tried to tackle a serious subject, a major departure from her usual witless ramblings about the desirability of personal perforations and other similar topics of major import.... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It refers to "The Atlantic" which led me to this.
www.theatlantic.com/doc/200706/cyberscam
Also somewhat hostile. It refers to scammers as "petty thieves", which is hardly an accurate description of criminals who are quite happy to take victims for everything they've got.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well I defend Emma's right to shoot from the hip and spout complete and utter nonsense about topics she knows absolutely nothing about. I do it all the time. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I guess I'd better stop now then before I get serious! Oh wait, I've just had an email from a mugu moaning the attachment I sent him was too big, hang on
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The only upset is that some journalist should make such sweeping comments based on such superficial knowledge.

There is a story - and we know that Australia has a specific problem with victims of 419 scammers - but this article appears to have been researched largely by use of Google whereas if the 'hack' had contacted the Australian authorities (with whom one of our members has contacts), then they may actually have written something of factual significance and relevance.

It's comic book journalism from a seat high atop Mt Olympus with a view clearly obscured by the clouds.

To aid future investigative google-based journalism may I recommend this link

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=28&ContentID=99972

It also provides some relevant facts and figures relating to Australia.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Roycropper wrote:
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think she has nice teeth. I wonder if anyone ever told her that? I think I should write her an email... Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Anyone had a reply from her? I guess it's pretty late over there now...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

"Geeky cohort"? Eh, I've been called worse.

The article is really not that surprising. It's an opinion developed by a novice, who knows little about the damage these people cause.

I would encourage this young woman to do a bit of baiting herself. I'm sure an experienced person on this board would be more than willing to help her out (not jojo...not jojo....not jojo...) . Have her present her character as an elderly woman struggling to make the mortage payments and provide support to her husband who is undergoing cancer treatments. Or have her pose as a 15 year old runaway that has access to the money her grandmother left her. Or possibly a person sending in the house payment, with the understanding that if the money doesn't come quickly her house will be taken by the bank.

I'm not trying to sound crass, but I don't believe that a person truly understands the lads until that person baits a few lads. Emma suffers from the somewhat normal opinion that nobody could possibly be as cruel and heartless as the lads are.

The article was written not with malice, but with ignorance. Oh, and it's best to avoid the topic of the tats. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Actually, I totally get that to someone coming in from the outside, some of the more extreme trophies (how do I put this nicely) look a little . . . racist and homophobic? I know there's a strict policy here about racism, but not all baiters live here, and it's not initially obvious (thus the posted, strictly enforced, and much appreciated policies on racism). And personally, I find some of the trophies uncomfortably close to GBLTQ phobia.

It would have been nice if the reporter had requested interviews here, and talked to some victims. (She didn't, did she?) It feels like the characterizations are off - it's not blood sport at all. The damage is 99% virtual, time-wasting activities, with people arriving in Abeche holding anti-Muslim signs a shockingly small percentage of the time.

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