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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm shamelessly plugging the Fake Sites forum here, and the brilliant mentoring system the guys there have running, and I am doing it here so that those of you who don't ordinarily visit the fakes forum will see it. Very Happy

I've been here over 4 years but have not had a great deal to do with killing fakes until recently, when a fellow mod suggested I try it. Thanks to the talented experts here, I've gone from knowing nothing to having 12 flags in a month. Although, given the advice and assistance I've had from them, the flags properly belong to Tsnerd, Ima Baeder, Artemis, and Freddy. There are many more fake slayers who have put their huge knowledge into clear useful information for new people, which helps a lot when you're starting out, or who post helpful tips and suggestions along the way. There's a real enthusiasm for teaching would-be killers, and you get a great buzz when your first fake dies and you know you've kicked a lad where it hurts. Not only does it save victims from being convinced by the fake site, but it also costs the lad whatever he had to pay the designer and/or hoster. Twisted Evil

Get over there and give it a go. It may not be your thing, but at least then you'll know. And it may give you a real kick, as it has me, and then you won't have to think as I do - that I wish I'd tried it years ago. Very Happy

Edited to add link to mentoring thread.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

As one of the most recent converts, I can say that even for someone who's not net savvy, it's fairly straightforward. Of course that's helped by the very good teachers that we have here, they are very knowledgeable and helpful.
I'm not going into site killing full time, but even for a standard baiter it's nice to have the skills to bump off any sites yourself that you may stumble on in your baits.
As they say over at aa419, "A lad cries when his site dies". Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Until now I saw it as just hard work with no or low entertainment value, but I might give it a try, if Eight likes it, it must be good Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm currently quite into it too and I must say it's quite time consuming !
But very rewarding indeed Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes to all of the above. I have several baits now requiring attention that have kept me away from it as of late but hope to return soon. It can be addictive and the rewards are quicker than toying with the lads in the usual way. I'm far from an expert but the mentors/mods over there have been more than helpful (and patient).

Aside from the satisfaction of hitting the lad where it hurts, you get some nice bling for your sig line too Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks, bill. Smile It may not be your thing, but then again you may find you really take to it. If you like researching stuff, and having a dig around the byways and highways of the internet, chances are this will suit you well. And if you like the smell of fakes being napalmed in the morning, it's definitely for you. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm more the sniper kind of guy, now you're here, now you're gone, but I can re-school of course, adapt and overcome like the Yanks say Laughing (do they? hangs in my head from some movie or so?, my main source of "new" English, around here we talk crop, cattle and weather and that's it)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes the fake killing is good. It is not as "funny" as baiting, but for me it is good when I have some time to devote to hurting lads, but don't think I'll have the time to devote to a bait over time. I.E. I have 20 minutes NOW to do something, but won't next week, so a bait is out.

It is like being a sniper to me.... you send the abuse note to the ISP and BAM the lad's site is down and he had NO idea it was coming Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for the plug, Eight. Very Happy

We're very welcoming and have very helpful mentors contributing to the group mentoring project. We've been likened to drug pushers, I believe, which is apt in some ways as killing sites is very addictive. Laughing

Even if baiters don't want to devote a lot of time to killing sites, it is great to have the knowledge to kill the sites that come up in your baits. I've done this and those deaded sites are extra satisfying.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Ima Baeder 77 kills! You are addicted Laughing
Read the info, very well organized, simple and thorough, I assume not every aa419 member will have access to the DB? So I best report it here.
Which brings me to my question, finding them pure luck or do we hunt organized over the WWW ? I mean is there a trick/way to find fake sites? Google for bank and check them all ?
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Results 1 - 10 of about 650,000,000
That's hard work Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

They come once in a while during a bait. Then I report them.
Sometime you can find others by looking for some common image in tineye, such as:
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You may get other fake sites in the results!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Bill2, thanks for counting my flags, I haven't recently. Laughing

To answer your question, and for general information for others:

Where we find fake sites: Some people research to find them. For regular baiters, the most likely place to find them is in the course of a bait; the lad will send you a link to his site. Additionally, we often find the domain being used for emails for a script. I have found many fake domains in the surplus forum here. You can find them in your catcher account as well. There are other anti scam sites that note/post the fraudulent domains but don't report them to the hosters and registrars. We also post and kill those.

If you think you have found a fake site, you can post it in the Fake Bank forum. Posting guidelines are noted in a sticky topic there (but don't worry, we'll help you out). Request help and Site Killers will help you with the research for evidence of fraud.

Fake sites should always be entered into the DB of fake sites kept at aa419 before being reported. Only some members do database entries as it is extremely important that a site be verified as fraudulent before being entered and/or reported. Gathering information regarding the registrant name and address used also helps to track prolific fake site lads. Sites can be posted in the fake bank forum here and those members who do the entries will keep track and enter when appropriate.

I'm glad to have interest in this. Very Happy

Edited to add a bit of info.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.copyscape.com/ is a very good resource for finding copied site content. Credit to Freddy for teaching me that. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mugatu wrote:
http://www.copyscape.com/

Great!
I just found two other fake sites, just by looking for the one I reported yesterday.
I won't have time to report them all Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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Some people research to find them
Now if they please could contact me and are willing to teach me the ropes or just putting me in the right direction, then I would say I spend my Internet time well Laughing Seems like the right thing to do or I should start baiting phone lads again and I didn't have much fun doing that. (copy and paste)
Just found my first steps to killing a site back, Thanks SP, but we were interrupted by a bot attack on the eater then.
Thank you all for the help and info so far. An interesting Sunday afternoon to say the least. THANKS

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't know if I should open a new thread for this one but I have a few questions.
With the great tool above, I found
http://brinks-sfc.info/
http://ppguard.org/
that use the logo of this legit one:
http://www.brinkscompany.com/

How can we be sure these are fake sites used in scams?
Could it be possible that it's just some poor legitimate security firm in Ivory Coast that paid too little for a web site and had blatant re-use as a result?

Thanks fellow scambaiters Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Post each one in a seperate thread in the fake banks forum. Start the title with the word "FAKE?"
The experts will look into them for you.

Edit: The first two are almost certainly fake, they are only registered for one year and the second one has very shaky registrant info.

They are hosted on Belgian and french hosting companies, go get them Bertrand! Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I can also recommend it

...and a registrar kill is the next best thing to....Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A great tutorial for learning how to look for evidence of fraud on a site has been written by justjay and is part of the Eater University forum, here

A current list of Site Killing mentors is:

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Posting guidelines for the Fake Bank forum are here

Please post suspect sites or PM any of the mentors for help. Don't forget to sign up on the mentor thread Eight linked to if you'd like the introductory information sent to you.

I also want to thank Artemis for being very dedicated to the FB forum. He does a lot of great work in there. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Super thanks to the continuing mentoring of the above listed. And for the n00bs, it is kind of fun and addictive. It really doesn't take too much time either.

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'error 404, this page does not exist' is one of the best errors I got from firefox lately Very Happy

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I'm going to check it out. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Eight's post makes it sound ideal for me. Tomorrow morning, once I've had my cig and the kettle's boiled, I'm on it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@ Eight: Very nice post and thank you for the "shameless plug" for this program. Very Happy

Now it's my turn to plug shamelessly, as much as the people helping in this program may be likened to drug dealers (nice one Ima Laughing ), I'll have to admit that the people that come running through this program are coming at it like spitfires and rabid dogs. To those who have entered and done their fair share of lad damage, you are DOING A GREAT JOB! We are just here to facilitate and help out whenever we can... you guys grease the wheels of this program with fresh lad pain, sweat, blood, and tears from all the site kills. Again, good job to the many killers I've seen coming through.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

More Predators ! Twisted Evil

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