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 Uncle's email account cracked... any suggestions?

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Edge83
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello All,

I ran into this forum a few years ago, and then was reminded of it the other week when I listened to the story on This American Life [hate on me all you want].

Coincidentally, my uncle's email account was cracked by some 419er and sent this email out to most of his family and friends (bear in mind my real uncle doesn't type this illiterately):

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Hello,

How are you doing?hope all is well with you and family,i am sorry that i didn't inform you about my traveling to England for a programme called Empowering youth to fight racism,Hiv/Aids,and lack of education.

I need a favour from you as soon as you recieve this e-mail because i misplaced my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money,and other valuable things were kept i will like you to assist me with a soft loan urgently with the sum of $3000 USD to sort-out my hotel bills and get myself back home.

I will appreciate whatever you can afford and i'll pay you back as soon as i return,Kindly let me know if you can be of help? so that i can send you the Details to use when sending the money through western union.


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I'm not planning on trying to bait this guy myself (as a noob), but I thought I would offer some help to you all if you wanted me to try to get another email address/phone number or whatever to get back at this guy for being a dousche. wasting his time is the name of the game.

thanks, hit me back or PM.

Edge


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Edge, your uncle wasn't scambaited... but someone tried to scam everyone in his address book.

By all means put this Lad up for some executive action... I'm sure there'll be plenty of volunteers.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I realize that after I had posted it -- he hadn't been scammed, rather cracked and then tried to scam me. But for the sake of getting people to read the post a little false advertising never hurt...kidding.

If anyone has any suggestions as to what I should write back, I would appreciate it. I'll reply what he writes and hand this off to whoever wants to continue it.

The only thing is that we probably have to hurry. My uncle has already contacted hotmail and the address is likely to be shut down soon, if it hasn't already been done.

Edge


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

went ahead and wrote:

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Roger,

So sorry to hear about that! I had no idea that you were in the UK, but then again we hadn't talked in a while!!!

I'm sure that I can get some help for you one way or another. In the meantime, do you have a phone number, address, the hotel name, or even another email address that I can contact you at? while we figure this out, I might need to get a hold of you. I'm sure with the time difference email is easiest.

The programme (love the british spelling!) sounds amazing! How long had you been there.

I know it's been a while since we talked last, but I really know how it feels to be without cash in a foreign country. Let me know how I can help!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Edge83 - Welcome to eater. Please post the lad's email, complete with full header information, and I'm sure lots of baiters here will jump on his butt and enliven his life. I'm sure your uncle has notified everyone in his address book that the email was a scam, and not to send any money?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Edge welcome to the site. I'm glad to hear that nobody actually got scammed. Very often we only hear about this when it's too late.

Incidentally "the british spelling" is actually the correct one. It's called English Laughing .

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Edge83
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Everyone in the family has been notified of the scam -- so no worries there.

If I get a new email address from the lad I will post that here (right now he's still in control of my uncle's and I won't post that.)

Incidentally, how do I get all of the header information through gmail (my email service) I looked for the IP address but didn't see a way in google to retrieve that information.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:53 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Once the email is open, on the line where the subject of the email is (I believe), there is a box that says "Reply" and has a little down arrow next to it. Click on the down arrow, and then click on "Show Original." This will display (in a new screen) the entire message, including the headers.

Of course, if the address that sent the email is also gmail, the IP will be masked. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

When you get an email open it, on the right of where you click reply is a down arrow-click on it. One of the options is show original-click on that and loads of goofy geeky stuff will appear in a new tab/window-copy and paste the geeky stuff and either post it here and we'll look at it-OR copy and paste it into this http://headertool.apelord.com/ The last (bottom) number is the one you want copy that number into here http://www.ip-adress.com/ipaddresstolocation/ and that will show you a map of where the sender sent the email from.

It won't work on emails sent to you from gmail, fastmail or hushmail as they all strip the IP information~which is why we use them. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

We have a winner! Nigeria.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Just a terminology thing here, but...
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he hadn't been scambaited, rather hacked and then tried to scambait me

Your uncle had had his email account broken into/cracked (original true hackers are the good guys - the natural allies of baiters, and it hurts to hear the word hacked synonymised with criminal activity), and the scammer tried to scam you (not scambait you)

Scambaiters are the good guys - scambaiting is the act of counter-scamming, of wasting scammer time, resources and money to reduce the risk of real victims being victims of scammers.

Also I note you implored Hotmail to kill the account, and with it closed there's little that can be done Sad

Glad to hear nobody fell for it Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:30 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry for the semantic flubs. I feel like Sarah Palin on a date with Katie Couric.

If I get a response, great. It's worth a shot.

thanks for what you all do.

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EDIT TO ADD:

He responded! Apparently Hotmail hasn't shut down the account in more than 24 since it was reported. The problem is (still) that it will be shut down soon and yet he didn't send me any more information. and Given that he's probably in Nigeria, I'm not sure how he would receive his payment given the scant details provided.

At this point I really need someone's help to figure out how to get him on the line. If you want the email address to try to contact him please PM. Again, it's my uncle's real email address so I'll probably only give it to people that are recommended from this community.

Thanks for the help!

-Edge

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From: XXXXXXX<[email protected]>
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Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 04:19:57 -0500
Importance: Normal

Thank you for your concern,am sorry that i did not inform you before i left for Uk.yes is has been a while we talked last,my phone can't work in foreign country.I have been there for a while.you will help me to send the money through western union with this details below and once you have it sent,send me the money transfer control number (mtcn) with details of the transfer.

Here are the details to use:

Name : Roger Carter
Address :121,Kensington High St
Zip code : W8 4PT
State : London
Country :England
Test Question : Thank
Answer : You

Please help me to send it as soon as you receive this email.

Roger
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