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Crimson
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I have recently been thru a very bad experience with a scammer. I'm still not 100% he is this.. but everyone around me tells me he is.
Please follow this link to see my experience with him so far..
I am in need of advice badly from you all here.
Thanks!

MOD EDIT I've pulled the link until I have talked with this member.

Please please advise!!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:38 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Crimson and welcome here.
It sounds like you were the victim of a very elaborate check scam.

Other members are much better at doing research on romance scammers and finding out details, so I'll wait for them to come along and do so. (Murry Guru will be a great help).

Meanwhile, I'll advise that you drop all contact with this person and take steps to secure your personal information that you shared with him. Contact your bank and let them know that your account information is compromised. You'll also want to close all email accounts you gave him access to and never use those same passwords again.

You should take steps to safeguard yourself regarding anything you shared with him.

I'm so, so sorry to hear what you went through. Romance scammers are particularly vile, they rob you emotionally and financially. Our sister site is www.Scamwarners.com. Please do go there and post your story, with information on this man. If other women that he contacts do an internet search, they will be lead there.

Lastly, if the link that you posted here connects to your real name and real life information, you may want to remove the link and just copy/paste the information here for others to read.

Good Luck to you.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:07 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome Crimson, I sent you a PM, you should probably check with a moderator to change your screen name so there is no tie to your real identity.

I am sure you will get some terrific advice from some of the experts on here.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson,

You were definitely a victim of a romance scammer, and no matter how much he swears his innocence, he is lying. Read a few of the baits here in the romance forum, and you will quickly see that his behavior is textbook--rage when you don't come through with the money, then a quick change to apologetic if they think they can still get more out of you. Read the "Dumb and Dumberer" thread in this forum, and you will see a perfect example of how naturally lies come to these scammers (and how staunchly they will hold on to and defend their stories). The fact that he (or somebody) flew you out to meet him and he was able to play his part in a face-to-face meeting suggests that he is a highly experienced and skilled scammer--and he is likely not working alone.

Essentially he was using you as a money launderer and a mule. Given the opportunity, he would have continued to launder money through your account, and he would have sent you more fake checks to cash. He would also have continued to use you to reship merchandise bought with stolen credit cards. Then when you were arrested for one of these activities, he would have disappeared into the sunset. As you now suspect, he (or his gang/organization) undoubtedly paid for your plane tickets with stolen credit cards, so he probably spent next to nothing out of pocket. Based on his initial activity level, if he had managed to keep you hooked and the fraudulent check weren't spotted so soon (often it is weeks or months before the institution will declare the check a fake), he could have cleared tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and merchandise through you before you caught on.

Break all contact with him. Don't even try to have it out with him--he knows your vulnerabilities and he will play on them. Don't give him that chance. Block his number, his email addresses, and close any email addresses he has access to. Actually, if it isn't too difficult, close any email addresses of yours that he knows, even if he doesn't have access, to reduce the number of new scams targeted at you. Also be on the look out for recovery scams (offers to get any money you lost back)--your name and info is now going to be on a list of those who have fallen for scams before...And be aware that some scammers introduce new characters who claim to be with the FBI or Nigerian crime commission, etc, when they aren't getting what they want--so also be suspicions of these communications, whether they are by email, phone, or snail mail.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson, I am in Utah. PM me if you want a phone call.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Did somebody say Murry Guru, Ima, as the information has now been moved if you can PM me I can do some research.

Crimson, I dont know exactly what you have been through but by the sounds of it you have had the misfortune of dealing with a scammer.

We deal with scammers every day but the difference is we deal with them on our terms, we waste their time, we frustrate them, we humiliate them but best of all we can them from many of their victims, unfortunately we cant keep them from all of their victims but we do manage to save a few here and there.

Old Bag Lady is a very skilled scambaiter who specialises in romance scammers and can offer some help if you allow her to talk to you.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Okay I've been thru something lately that's very messed up! I got hooked into one of those internet schemes and wanted to tell you all about it here. It came to a boiling point this morning and I'm left feeling so very used. This was from the man whom I mentioned I was going to marry in a couple of other previous posts.
I feel very stupid that I did a lot of the things I did as far as trusting him. But I'm known to trust more then I should. And I'm known to be extremely naive and so I walk right into traps where people use me for my money.. which sucks for them because I am by no means rich. I'm a single mom with 2 kids at home...
I appreciate any constructive criticism and advice you all may have.
Anyway.. this is a copy of the report I filed online.

I met Simon Lawrence on myspace. There he goes by Tony. We chatted for awhile and he told me that he owned a business which he inhearited from his father who passed away and that he is a Construction Engineer. He said that he has about 15 people under him. He said that he travels a lot for his job and it seemed that everytime I chatted with him he was in another country such as Cuba, London and Yemen. We chatted for awhile when he told me that he was developing feelings for me. We talked on the phone too but just a couple of times since it was very long distance. I was a little questionable on how he could develop feelings for me so quickly. He even brought up us getting married. He offered to fly me to Yemen to meet him and if we hit it off.. possibly get married.
With me being a single mom with two kids at home, this sounded like a fairy tale. He said that once married, he would apply for citizenship here in the US and we would get a fiance permit and marry. Then he would buy me a house and new car.
And so on 7/15/08 I flew to New York from Utah which I paid for. Then Simon paid for my flights from New York to London.. then from London to Dubai.. then from Dubai to Yemen. All these people showed up just to meet me. His co-workers, friends and 2 of his sisters (now I wonder about the sisters). I was there until 7/24/08 then he flew me home. (you can see some of the pic's on my myspace)
I was on cloud 9 after meeting everyone and seeing just how much Simon seemed to love me. Everyone told me how much he loved me. He rented out an entire apartment complex for him and his workers in Yemen. I don't know the exact address.. I remember seeing the number 1 (could have been 11) on the building. And I remember hearing them ask the taxi drivers "do you know Saffia?" And I remember this was about a 20 minute drive from the Sanaa airport.
Simon promised me a lot. He said that he would help me with my car payments too. I am now 2 almost 3 car payments behind. (August,September and October due on October 20th)
Anyway.. when I got home he wanted me to set up a high interest account that he could transfer money to me in. I have terrible credit, so I was denied from a few institutions before his "partner" (as he called him) helped out and suggested that I apply with Bank of America. I did this and was approved. I asked why my own bank here wouldn't do and he gave me some explanation that I didn't understand.. but trusted.
So on 8/27/08 Simon's partner (John West of John West Consultants)transfered $3,000 to my bank of america account. I thought some of that was going to be used to pay off my parents and to make a couple of car payments. My parents paid about $1,000 to partly pay for my plane trip to New York and to pay for my flight home. Also they paid $140 for my parking ticket when I parked at the airport while I was gone. It came to just under $1,000. And two car payments of $250 each.
When I was chatting with Simon online, he told me that he needed that money to help pay for my plane tickets. He said that he has a limit with his bank in Yemen of $5,000/month and that he went over his limit, so he needed me to Western Union that money to him. It didn't sound quite right, but I trusted Simon... so I sent the money Western Union.
Simon and I continued to chat on Yahoo messenger and he said that he missed me and wanted to fly me back there and we would fly to Armenia, Switzerland and Dublin. He wanted to arrange for me to get a job and an apartment for the both of us to live there instead of the states.
So I quit my job here in Utah of almost 4 years to do this. All the while my parents are questioning Simon as well as everyone around me. But I was insistent on proving them wrong. I wanted to have my fairy tale life in Dublin with Mr Wonderful. With my parents constantly pressuring me about the money I owe them and the bank financing my car calls constantly about my missed payments... sometimes as much as 4 to 5 times a day.
Simon told me there was a $6,000 check on the way to pay my parents off, pay the car payments to date and on some of my other bills. I waited and waited for this check to come and it never came.
Soon came 9/5/2008 which is when I began my flights again to Yemen to meet Simon. The check never came, but I went anyway hoping it was just a hold up. This time it was different. He didn't spend so much time with me and I actually spent the majority of the trip in his room reading my Gooberz book. Here's the stupid part.. I had given him all of my personal information such as bank account numbers and passwords, email addresses and passwords (for the transfers)passport information so he could get me a visa for Armenia online (which he did).
So I had sent an email to my 16 yr old daughter asking her if that check had arrived yet. She said no, but the following day it was there. I told Simon it arrived and he wanted to fly me home so I could deposit it into my account. This seemed odd to me since I figured it would cost about that much for the flights.. or close anyway.
So he set up the flights, paying extra to change my existing flights home which were scheduled for 9/28/2008. I flew from Yemen to Dubai and had to wait a few hours for my flight to New York. During this time, I found out that the check came. So I asked my dad to deposit it for me, which he did. I am able to log on to Yahoo messenger from my phone, so I was chatting with Simon this way. He told me that he again needed the money so he could pay his employees. He said that since it was Ramadan, he wasn't able to get to his money with the banks being closed. By this time I was feeling very uneasy about it all and questioning him. So I figured it's not my money anyway, so I should send it. I found a bank at the Dubai airport that sent Western Union. I sent him $5,000 leaving $1,000 in the bank. I at least wanted to pay my parents back. I got my things together and headed for the check in at the airport for my flight. I get half way across the airport when I get an angry text from Simon asking why I didn't deposit the whole check. I told him that I wanted to pay my parents. He became very angry and began shouting at me. He told me that if I didn't send him $800 right now that we were over. This totally shocked me. I couldn't believe that he was going to end our relationship based on that. I told him how I was going to miss my flight if I went clear across the airport to send him more money. He said that was my problem, told me not to call him anymore, then hung up on me. So I ran across the airport and got held up at the extremely long line for customs. I began crying and ran back the other way so I wouldn't miss my flight. I didn't want to be stuck in Dubai with no way home. I couldn't find my way back to the gate and asked an attendant with Emirates airlines how I could get to my gate quickly since I was going to miss my flight....again I was sobbing by then. They let me go thru their gate and I found my way back.. barely in time to catch my flight. I remember flopping down in my seat feeling like I was going to faint (I'm diabetic).
I was just feeling totally numb at that moment. I texted Simon that when I got home I would western union his money to him. (just to be done with him). He ended up apologizing to me and we kind of made up. Kind of because I couldn't clear his tone of voice or the words he said to me out of my mind. So on 9/17/2008, after spending the night in Las Vegas (my connecting flight to Utah), I sent the $800 Western Union to Simon.
When I got home on 9/18/2008 there were 2 boxes that came for me while I was gone. One of the things Simon promised me was a laptop. He also said that a friend here in the states was sending me clothes and shoes to take to him. So when I saw those boxes I was thinking this was probably that. I opened them up to find 4 laptops. Okay.. this was strange. I know he said he'd send me one.. and one for him. I opened one of them up and began chatting on Yahoo messenger with Simon about them. He said none of them were for me or him. He said that his friend who has a business in New York ordered them for his workers. I asked why he didn't have them sent directly and he said that he told his friend that I could monitor the packages for him. Strange as that sounded, I shrugged it off and sent them to his friend in New York via DHL the next day.
He said that another shipment of 4 more laptops were on their way and that I could have one of them. This package never came. He also said that another check of $6,000 was on it's way so that I could pay off my bills. I felt better about that and I'm the type to forgive easily....especially where I dependeded on that money.
Yesterday I got online and found that both of those checks for $3,000 that went into my Bank of America account and the one for over $6,000 which went into my local bank both were reported as counterfeit.
They were sent from 2 of his "partners" in different states and they both bounced! At this time I was sure that I had been scammed by Simon. I got online ready to be angry with him. He seemed shocked and very upset that this happened. He said that he was very confused. I started thinking that okay.. I'll give this guy a chance to fix things. It was late so I went to bed and wanted to give him a chance to "fix things".
The next morning (today) my daughter brings me in a fed ex envelope with a $6,000 check from another of his partners. He says that I needed to cash it and send it Western Union. By now I'm tired of this song and dance. Again, he needed the money so he could fly himself and his PA (personal assistant) named Sylvester to Dubai. He said that he has work there and would send me $12,000 by Monday to pay off everything. I didn't think any odd bank would just cash it for me, so I went to Check City (a local check cashing business) to cash it. They called the company on the check called Netbrain Technologies to verify the check and.. surprise.. they said the check was fradulant. This is the final straw with me. I don't believe him anymore. Yes, I am very naive. I wanted the whole fairy tale ending. I went home and got on Yahoo messenger to confront him about this and he again played all innocent. He said that he needs to talk to his pastor and call the person who sent the check, etc etc.. and that he would fix things soon.
I am done trusting him and I can see this happening with one check... but not three..sent from three different people.
So now, I am stuck owing my current bank over $6,700 and another bank $3,000 and my parents $1,000 and three car payments $750...
I feel very cheated and I doubt he will fix anything. I'm pretty sure he was scamming me. And I am pretty sure that my flights were paid for by fradulant credit cards since I had problems with one of my flights from London when I was told there was a problem with the credit card that paid for the flight.

When I called my bank they suggested that I file a complaint online, which i did.

One other thing Simon told me is that he has 3 different names. He said it's tradition in Africa (he said he's from Nigeria) for babies to get 3 names at birth. One from Mom, one from Dad and one from his sister. (can anyone verify this for me?) So he goes by Simon Lawrence, Olaniyi Samuel Olajuyigbe, and Abraham M (cant remember the rest of the last name but it started with M).
Sorry it's so long, but so was my experience.

Again.. if anyone wishes to expand on this it would be greatly appreciated. I know that I probably deserve this... the red flags were all there but I wanted to believe that he loved me and wanted to take care of me..
Why do I attract these a$$holes!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I was told by my bank to go to www.ic3.gov to report an online scam... so I did.

Then this morning I was still very upset by this all and I got online to see if he was on messenger. I just wanted to chew him out.. still feeling very hurt.
Well it turned out he was online. He proceeded to tell me that he swears to God he didn't know anything about the counterfeit checks. He said that he's very confused by this all.. etc etc..
I'm thinking.. yeah, right. You had to have known something.
Next thing I know, my phone rings and it's him. He was sobbing on the other end of the phone telling me how he's sorry and how he needs me.. He tells me how he's considering killing himself, which totally shut me down. I did a complete turn around. I'm trying to tell him to calm down, that everything will be okay..
It's all very confusing... on one hand I want to take a bat to his head and on the other hand I wanted to soothe him. I'm so confused right now.
He said that he borrowed money from one of his sister's to go to Dubai and collect money from one of his jobs. He still says that he will pay me back once he gets that money.
And I'm a tender heart who's way too trusting. You tell me you need money, I'll give you my last dollar.. I'm just like that.
So he's on the other end of the phone telling me he's not okay.. how he needs me.. I'm concerned that he may attempt suicide, so I told him to fly me out there when he can..
Meanwhile, I'm sitting here wondering what he's doing.. is he okay..
or
is he sitting there congratulating himself on another Oscar winning performance?

so I don't know..
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have received dozens of emails from myspace with guys from Nigeria or the UK and their story is so similar. They always say that their family was in some terrible accident and lost their lives. And he's some poor man trying to rebuild his life..etc.. Oh, and they are almost always Engineers of some sort.
Here was my first red flag that I ignored. Simon is from Nigeria and showed me pictures of his ex wife and her son whom he said both died in an airplane crash. Oh and did I mention he's a construction engineer?
What gets me is how religious he is. The first time he flew me to see him.. one of the first things we did together is pray. It felt so right and so loving that I cried.
And his sister Stella whom I spent a lot of time with. She didn't give me any bad vibes.. matter of fact, nobody there gave me any bad vibes. It FELT right. And I am very sensative around people. I can feel things around people... hard to explain. But I didn't get any bad feelings around them. Until the second time.. things felt different then.
Even this last time. I was there for 12 days and during that time he took me to his church, introduced me to his pastor.. and before we left his apartment, he took my hands and prayed for my safe travels.
I had a hard time.. still do.. believing that someone so religious would go to such lengths to be so devious.
Yet... I think of what Peace Angel wrote and wonder if that was a part of playing into my emotions.
I chatted with him a few hours ago and he was worried that he took too many sleeping pills. He said he took 3 instead of 1. GOD I wish I was a fly on the wall over there.
So for now I think I'll just wait until Monday and go to the FBI to see what my options are. I can in no way re-pay that money right now so I hope whoever is responsible will be held accountable.
One thing is for sure... I've learned one hell of a lesson the hard way.
And I don't think it will be so easy to earn my trust in the future.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson wrote:
is he sitting there congratulating himself on another Oscar winning performance?



That's where I would bet my money. Overly trusting people such as yourself are exactly who these scammers depend on. He couldn't care less about you, he sees you as a slot machine and he knows if he keeps pulling your handle, sooner or later money will come pouring out.

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So for now I think I'll just wait until Monday and go to the FBI to see what my options are. I can in no way re-pay that money right now so I hope whoever is responsible will be held accountable.


Going to the police or FBI is a good idea. Bring anything you can to support your story. Unfortunately, there is very little possibility that this person and his accomplices will be caught, and your chances of getting your money back are probably slimmer. Cooperating fully with the authorities is your best chance of working something out with the banks. You may want to check out www.fraudaid.com for help with this.

I'm very sorry this happened to you and wish you the best of luck getting through it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson: I know this must be so very hard for you and you have my sympathies. Please remember that these people are con men. Some of them are very good at what they do. They WILL use religion or anything else they can to get what they want, and that is your money.

Some of the scammers we have baited here have threatened suicide. They will stoop to nothing to try to get a victim to continue paying once they have gotten some money from them. We know of victims who have payed scammers for three years, going bankrupt and losing everything.

I recommend that you contact a counselor local to you to help you work through this.

Please, do not believe his stories. Stop contact with him so that he can't continue to play on your emotions. Please feel free to PM me anytime and Lotta, and admin here and the moderator for this forum, also has some great contacts and can point you in the direction for further help.

If it would help you to be able to let go and move on, send me his email address and I will send him an email pretending to be a new victim and see if he bites and tells me the same story. Him doing this might help make it crystal clear to you and give you the conviction you need.

Good Luck with this.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson, please do not feel bad about this. The person you have been dealing with is a manipulative deceitful criminal who has abused your good nature and innate trust in humanity to steal from you. It is not your fault. Many others have found themselves in the same situation, through no fault of their own, so do not beat yourself up, please. Very Happy

I suggest that you need to take some actions quickly to get yourself back on track.
- Stop communicating with "Simon" - block his email address and remove him from your YIM contacts. Don't take his calls. He will try to contact you because he wants to scam you some more, but don't give him the chance.

- Don't believe anyone who tells you they can recover the money from him - they are also scammers. I am afraid you have to accept that it is lost.

- Contact Fraudaid as luckey suggested. They are in the US and have tons of experience at dealing with banks, etc in circumstances just like this and will be able to advise you in a more personal and direct way then we can here.

- Fraudaid will be able to advise you in this too - speak to your bank and explain everything to them. Take copies of emails, YIM archives if you have them, and anything that will support what has happened to you.

- Contact your local police and tell them you have been the victim of crime and would like to be referred to local victim support services. They will be able to offer practical and emotional support, and they will have an excellent understanding of all the emotional issues you are dealing with. They will have seen many many cases of abuse of trust in relationships, and will understand what you're feeling on that front.

- Pat yourself on the back for realising what was happening, and having the courage to admit it to others. You have been brave and strong - carry on like that and you will come through this. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Crimson, first, welcome here! Smile

Next - you did not deserve this. You are a trusting person who believes in the goodness of human nature. That isn't a bad thing in itself, but one who is inherently that way needs to learn to be more cautious. You have had a hard lesson, and you didn't deserve to be taken in that manner.

Please do as the above posters have recommended. Cease all contact with him. Don't over-analyze things; you were scammed by a very good scammer who was part of a big organization of good scammers. You mean nothing to him except as a source of more money.

So - become pro-active in resolving your end of the situation. Don't feel guilty. Drop him like a bad habit. Hold your head up high and face the world straight-on.

You deserve better, and with knowledge of how this worked, you will find what you truly deserve. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

@Crimson

My heart is breaking for you. I'm so sorry this happened. Please follow all the advice given here. These people know what they are talking about.

The most important piece of advice that I'd like to reiterate to you is this:

Break ALL communication with this piece of garbage. Block his emails, block his phone calls - change your number if you have to. Do not listen to anything he has to tell you.

As for the religion thing, read the Dumb/Dumberer thread as someone else mentioned - it is long but you will see the lengths these people will go to attempting to get your money.

And remember this: you did nothing wrong other than to be a trusting soul who expects to be treated as you would like to be treated. Don't let this change the person you are - just learn from the experience. I'm sure most folks who got all these paid flights around the world would have a difficult time thinking something bad about this person who did this for you and whom you were in love with. Don't beat yourself up.

I'll be praying for you. Please keep in contact here. We all care what happens.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crymson, I'm very sorry you got scammed.

I'll just echo what others have said, it's not your fault. You were generous and trusting, traits that a scammer loves to exploit. Some excellent advice has been proferred above, so I won't repeat it. I'll just offer you my sympathies.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson,

I agree with the other posters, and the advice they have given you.

This is not your fault. You did nothing wrong. I am so sorry this has happened to you. Thank you for having the courage to come forward and tell your story.

I have discovered in my short baiting career that lads will use God to deceive victims.
I can't tell you how many times my lads have threatened suicide, yet they are still trying to scam me.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:32 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I just wanted to say thank you for the information and advice you all gave me. I will heed your advice. I am very good at beating myself up lol. Especially because I consider myself a smart person... who made some not so smart choices. It should have been so obvious yet it wasn't. I kept thinking "he couldn't be after me for my money since I have none" and if he's into it for the money, why would he spend money to fly me everywhere... but I've been putting these pieces together over this past week or so and it is all falling into place.
I will just chalk this one up as a lesson learned and move on.
Thanks again!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You're very welcome, Crimson. A positive attitude will see you through this, for sure. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson, what can I say, your story is what motivates most of us to do what we do, it is unfortunate but yours is not the first story we have heard of that nature.

Dont think your foolish, I certainly dont, scammers are very good at what they do, after all it is their jobs and they do get a lot of practice.

I do have one piece of advice for you that I dont recall seeing, those laptops and other goods you had delivered to your place, they were, as you have probably guessed, paid for with stolen credit cards, eventually the merchants will realise they were sent to you and you may get a knock at the door, be sure to keep any correspondance regarding that including any delivery paperwork or reciepts, you may need it.

There are many of us here who have helped others through the same situation as you have found yourself in, if you have any questions dont hesitate to ask.

Wehn your ready if you send me the emails from him I can make it a little more difficult for him to do this to somebody else.

If you stick around we can also teach you the warning signs and how to avoid these scammers in the future

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson, I am so sorry you experienced this . Scumbags like this are the reason I started baiting . Stay positive and be glad you got out when you did. Some poor souls are bled dry by these batards. You've come to the right place for advive .
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Crimson:

As Murry said you may get a call or knock on the door regarding the merchandise. Keep every record and e-mail (WITH FULL HEADER) you have. It may come in handy.

Please go to fraudaid.org and see if they can be of help.

If that knock comes on the door DO NOT talk to either the police or any kind of credit card security types with out a lawyer by your side.

I am sorry for what you have gone through, the above advice is not meant to sound callous, but is more to help you prevent the problem from becoming ever larger.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

thankyou for sharing your story

it inspires me to make this lad pay big time
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Okay.. so I've been to Yemen twice to meet Simon. After coming home the first time I came home to a $400 cell phone bill (ouch).
Thinking back, he would take my phone and make calls on it. I thought that odd, but shrugged it off. He also would call me and tell me to call him back.
The second time I went to Yemen Simon did more of the same...and more of it. Today, the cell phone bill came again and this time it's over $1,500...!!! Shocked

I am so screwed!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:31 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I have done some searching on some extra details provided to me and found some proof that this lad is in fact a scammer, the details have been passed onto our mod team who are busy dealing with the situation.

As you will all agree, Crimson deserves our utmost respect for coming here to share her story, it hardens all of our resolves to do what we can to deal with these vermin and this is a particularly vile specimen.

Rest assured that this lad will be slowed down and I just know that it will feel all the better knowing what he has put Crimson through when we get to read about what has happened to him.

Where are those Lad Huggers now Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hiya Crimson and welcome to Eater.

I have not been around for a while due to pressures of work, BUT reading your story has brought a tear to my eye and a lump to my throat. This scumbag has had you over good and proper. If you haven't already done so, I would STRONGLY suggest cancelling your cell phone contracts...at least that will stop his free calls!

Be positive about this (I know it must seem hard, BUT there is light at the end of the tunnel, and it will not be a train heading your way!), I am sure that 'Simon' will by now be on a baiting hit list, and rest assurred, he will get his just rewards!! Evil or Very Mad

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