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Ralph Wiggum
Master Baiter
Joined: 11 Sep 2008
Posts: 225
Location: The People's Republic of California
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:13 pm |
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To quote Dirt McGirt:
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I think when stupid people do stupid things, they deserve what they get |
They sent me a money order, that the post office "verified" was legit for 1 months rent + deposit. I deposited it to my account. The "terrible car accident" happened to her dad. Being hospitalized after being hit by a car, I sympathized. I sent real money orders back, the exact sum "she" sent me. Not a dime more nor less.
Yes I was foolish. Compassion is foolish in the end, I guess. Hopefully in your time of need someone will understand that it is foolish to be compassionate. My friend helped me out of the bind, because he felt foolish for me. He was repaid in full, plus some. Sometimes being foolish to your fellow man is the right thing to do. |
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Ima Baeder
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 18313
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:15 pm |
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@ Ralph: Thank you for sharing that. I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you.
If you're willing to do so, please go to www.Scamwarners.com and post your story there, especially if you have the scammer's email address, name they used for the scam, etc.
Educating as many people as we can is the best defense against scamming. |
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bombardier
*** BANNED ***
Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 2021
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:16 pm |
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lotta
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 13613
Location: 2 Speckled Cct Springfield Lakes QLD 4300
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:17 pm |
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It's really good to see you back, Bombardier. We missed you! |
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Alan James Watson (AKA Bi Gal, AKA Big Al, AKA De Master Yoda) -2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 "Doos of the year" award winner
Frederick Fokker:
"I am giving you about a month to get your act together, i am cutting you and the eater a bit of slack"
Dec 11, 2007
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DirtMcGirt
** SUSPENDED **
Joined: 17 Sep 2008
Posts: 42
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:18 pm |
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bombardier wrote: |
Based on Dirtbags reply to Ralph i am calling 100% troll, if you get the f*&k kicked out of you by some mindless gang on your way home from work don't come crying to us.... you shouldn't of been on that street in the first place.... iv'e heard enough. |
1) because I don't have sympathy for Ralph for falling for this scam, doesn't mean I don't think the scammer's activities are criminal. Of course they are.
2) getting your ass kicked by a random mindless gang is obviously not the same thing as being scammed. One requires being out numbered, the other requires you being out witted. While the person scamming you is a criminal, the victim has to acknowledge that they made some sort of error, in logic and judgment, to have fallen for the scam. Just because you are "smart" doesn't mean you can't be foolish too. When you get mugged by a random violent gang, no decision by the victim is ever made, there can be no error. |
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Ari
Elite Baiter
Joined: 17 Sep 2004
Posts: 1269
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Posted:
Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:21 pm |
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Ralph Wiggum wrote: |
Yes I was foolish. |
Nope, you weren't a fool at all. It looks like you were being honest and straightforward. The scammer wasn't, which makes him the fool. |
Last edited by Ari on Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:22 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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bombardier
*** BANNED ***
Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 2021
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:22 pm |
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lotta
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 13613
Location: 2 Speckled Cct Springfield Lakes QLD 4300
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:22 pm |
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@dirt
I'll be suspending your account, which means you cannot post, but can read. I suggest you take the time to educate yourself on 419 scams, the victims hurt by them etc. I've provided many stories and links for you but it seems you're not interested. Please go back and read them and when you're ready to post without insulting our members, send me a pm.
@Ralph
I'm so sorry to hear that you were a victim of these scamming bastards.
Thanks for sharing your story and please do take the time to post about it at scamwarners. |
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Alan James Watson (AKA Bi Gal, AKA Big Al, AKA De Master Yoda) -2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 "Doos of the year" award winner
Frederick Fokker:
"I am giving you about a month to get your act together, i am cutting you and the eater a bit of slack"
Dec 11, 2007
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Ralph Wiggum
Master Baiter
Joined: 11 Sep 2008
Posts: 225
Location: The People's Republic of California
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:23 pm |
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It was years ago. Eff it. But thanks, Ima. I got through with help, and the sum was only $1500. I can only imagine what others have felt. |
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Ima Baeder
Baiting Guru
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 18313
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:23 pm |
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Dirt: You wanted to explore the morality/ethics of the baiters and we have indulged you.
I have already asked you to please refrain from using negative terms for describing victims. If you have no sympathy, that's your business, but stop characterizing any victims as foolish.
We want to support victims when they find this site and will not tolerate them being belittled.
Edit: Darn, Lotta suspended already. I still stand by my point here. |
_________________ 348 Fake Sites killed
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GomerPyle
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Posts: 8875
Location: Wherever I lay my hat
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:24 pm |
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The problem is quite simple DirtMcGirt.
You don't possess a coherent argument.
You have already stated that scam victims deserve what they get and are victims of their own foolishness. If you really believe that, then what's your problem about baiting and baiiters ? Scammers fall into that category too.
If you think I'm mean or vindictive, I could give a hoot. If you think it's unfair because no scammer will ever get a dime from me, well that's their problem, and then you're just complimenting me that I'm better at my pastime than they are at theirs. Thanks.
Those two arguments don't fit - so don't try. The minute you put them together you have argued yourself into a losing position - and funnily enough that's what happens to scammers I bait. |
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- the 'Asparagus Kid' - Accra to Lome - You Must surly Die in The Name Of Jesus Christ
- Steve - Lagos to Accra
- Frank - Lagos to Cotonou - co-bait with the vampire
- Shorty - Lagos to Cotonou - My Agro Base farming where i rearing chicken and other animals was set ablazed overnight and we do not know who is actual behinde all these evils! -
I and my crew was locked up for 3 good days….They wanted to charge us to court but later we are fined an huge amount of money…I asked them why did they arrest the men, they started laughing and saying all sorts mockering words! -
…because now, am left with nothing and remember i told you my Guy (Joe) gave up earlier this morning |
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Professor So And So
Elite Baiter
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 1337
Location: Hash Conditions
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:24 pm |
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I grew up in Philadelphia, and I can certainly say that you can get your ass beat to a pulp for simply walking through the wrong neighborhood. If you don't know where you are, or are simply unfamiliar with certain sections of that city, there is a chance you'll pay for it. The internet can be the same way to someone unfamiliar with what goes on.
And it's not always gangs. There are plenty of one-on-one ass beatings. In short, you should check that city out. It's beautiful. |
_________________ - Ibrahim - Lagos - Parakou - "Find out if there is any western union money transfer from the 5imba camp"
- Mr. Green - Germany - Amsterdam, Holland - "I'll be in a brown check suit and trousers and a brown shoe."
- Mr. Mark - Accra - Tamale - "I thank you so much for the pain,time,money and life that you caused."
- Mr. Neill - London, England - Glasgow, Scotland - "Yu are really causing confusions between us all."
- William - Accra, Ghana - Maiduguri, Nigeria
- Miracle - Benin - N'Djamena, Chad - "Too much mosquitoes"
- Godspower - Ghana - N'Djamena, Chad
- Adamu - Lagos, Nigeria - Abeche, Chad (100 days in hell) - - "SAVE ME"
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Simba
Baiting Guru
Joined: 19 Nov 2006
Posts: 4093
Location: Bila Shaka
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Posted:
Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:25 pm |
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_________________ =5imba Safari Camps
=King Zongo-Ouaga to Accra to Lome to Accra to Lome
=Mr Duru-Ouaga to Accra to Ouaga to Abidjan
=Mr Yetonde-Sierra Leone to Accra
=Mr Jiullus-Abidjan to Accra to Kumasi to Tamale
=Mr Dandy-Abidjan to Monrovia-SSC Liberia
=Mr Mandela-Jo'burg to Maun-SSC Botswana
=Mr Danka-Dakar to Bangul-SSC Gambia
=Mr Twumasi-Accra to Cotonou-SSC Benin
=Mr Gomer-Lagos to Douala to Parakou-SSC Cameroon & SSC Benin
=Mr Chukwu-Lome to Accra to Koforidua. Lome to Lagos. Lome to Cotonou.
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Ralph Wiggum
Master Baiter
Joined: 11 Sep 2008
Posts: 225
Location: The People's Republic of California
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Posted:
Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:25 pm |
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Dirt-
I grew up fighting in a rough neighborhood. An ass-kicking is a lot easier to take. It's over in a few minutes. This can last years. |
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Professor So And So
Elite Baiter
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 1337
Location: Hash Conditions
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Posted:
Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:28 pm |
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We have recently gotten some other hate mail to our radio show box, so I request this thread be left unlocked, just in case some other people want to come express themselves. That way it doesn't happen in our radio thread again.
Why the hell has my postcount been locked at 1574? |
_________________ - Ibrahim - Lagos - Parakou - "Find out if there is any western union money transfer from the 5imba camp"
- Mr. Green - Germany - Amsterdam, Holland - "I'll be in a brown check suit and trousers and a brown shoe."
- Mr. Mark - Accra - Tamale - "I thank you so much for the pain,time,money and life that you caused."
- Mr. Neill - London, England - Glasgow, Scotland - "Yu are really causing confusions between us all."
- William - Accra, Ghana - Maiduguri, Nigeria
- Miracle - Benin - N'Djamena, Chad - "Too much mosquitoes"
- Godspower - Ghana - N'Djamena, Chad
- Adamu - Lagos, Nigeria - Abeche, Chad (100 days in hell) - - "SAVE ME"
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Ralph Wiggum
Master Baiter
Joined: 11 Sep 2008
Posts: 225
Location: The People's Republic of California
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Posted:
Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:29 pm |
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Nice round number? |
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"The law of cama is still in exixtence and I know what the consequences of your action will be"-Rimi |
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lotta
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 13613
Location: 2 Speckled Cct Springfield Lakes QLD 4300
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:30 pm |
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Professor So And So wrote: |
Why the hell has my postcount been locked at 1574? |
Mine's stuck too I'll get your's fixed to reflect the 1609 posts you have. |
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bank kills
Alan James Watson (AKA Bi Gal, AKA Big Al, AKA De Master Yoda) -2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 "Doos of the year" award winner
Frederick Fokker:
"I am giving you about a month to get your act together, i am cutting you and the eater a bit of slack"
Dec 11, 2007
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Professor So And So
Elite Baiter
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 1337
Location: Hash Conditions
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:33 pm |
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Can you just make it 1337? That will show everyone what up. |
_________________ - Ibrahim - Lagos - Parakou - "Find out if there is any western union money transfer from the 5imba camp"
- Mr. Green - Germany - Amsterdam, Holland - "I'll be in a brown check suit and trousers and a brown shoe."
- Mr. Mark - Accra - Tamale - "I thank you so much for the pain,time,money and life that you caused."
- Mr. Neill - London, England - Glasgow, Scotland - "Yu are really causing confusions between us all."
- William - Accra, Ghana - Maiduguri, Nigeria
- Miracle - Benin - N'Djamena, Chad - "Too much mosquitoes"
- Godspower - Ghana - N'Djamena, Chad
- Adamu - Lagos, Nigeria - Abeche, Chad (100 days in hell) - - "SAVE ME"
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maggiemay
Adamu's soulmate
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 337
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Posted:
Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:36 pm |
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Phew- glad this thread is moving on |
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SlapHappy
Baiting Guru
Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 9612
Location: Floating up and down with happiness.
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:45 pm |
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lotta wrote: |
SlapHappy wrote: |
Mods? Remove the troll, please. |
That just would not be fair to Snerd. He's still sharpening his stick. |
I'm looking forward to TS's comments, or the impaling, whatever, Lotta.
I guess that was rather selfish of me to ask too soon. |
_________________ x Reven U., Fats Walla, Donny
x10 X2 MM:Mikex2, JohnK, D@rlington, Ob1, Armstrong, Ismail, TG&Friend
x3 Nancy, Security Guy, Robert Accra-Tamale
(19 mo.) Tina and Joe's Safari - Accra to Niger & Timbucktu
Z@ke & Charlie -Wulugu Or Bust Safari- Lagos to Paga & Tokwari X2 - 3800mi.
x3 H3ctor & C@leb - Yankar1 & Parakou
x2 Charles and Friend-Amsterdam to Vatican
Issac to Chad
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Ralph Wiggum
Master Baiter
Joined: 11 Sep 2008
Posts: 225
Location: The People's Republic of California
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:12 pm |
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2) getting your ass kicked by a random mindless gang is obviously not the same thing as being scammed. One requires being out numbered, the other requires you being out witted. While the person scamming you is a criminal, the victim has to acknowledge that they made some sort of error, in logic and judgment, to have fallen for the scam. Just because you are "smart" doesn't mean you can't be foolish too. When you get mugged by a random violent gang, no decision by the victim is ever made, there can be no error. |
Wow...missed this. You are sheltered, aren't you?
Let's assume, to take away a redirect, that it is a person who is the aggressor, not a gang. He needed a job. He went to fill out an application. He wore a blue shirt. Or he was black. Or he was white. Either way, he wanted a job, and he got robbed. Your argument doesn't make sense. |
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FrumpyBB
Baiting Guru
Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 5988
Location: Germany
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:47 pm |
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I´m glad this discussion seems to be over (for now). Only thing I was missing were KD´s comments
Still do not know whether reading this whole exploding thread was worth the full 60 minutes or not...I guess it was...sooner or later the next person will come and say "Hey, you are not better than them. You have a sadistic hobby! You like to make fun of criminals. You like to prepare elaborate plans to make their life a misery for your entertainment! Victims are greedy." It´s good to have the arguments at hand then. And maybe this is part of educating people, occasionally stumbling upon big mouth ignorants, who nevertheless need their chance to learn all about it.
I wish there were more safaris like this one!
I even have the usually highly private, brutally sadistic theory (knowing or at least guessing how media that are orientated to sensationalism work) that I really come to wish a lad would die while on a safari! The media would finally report about it on a more regular basis, and fighting 419scams and how to do it and where to find help would become as self-explaining to the general public like having winter tyres for a car or not smoking in a dry forest in the summer! - I knew i should not have posted here oh well, why not. |
_________________ SIR,I DON'T ENTERTAIN RIGMAROLE AND THERE IS NO ROOM FOR DILLY- DALLY.
the ball is in your cult
x 5 ARK & Co. incl. 1 safari w/ RS17 & NTBS
Dan the lotto man, ARK mugu wedding
Dennis the hitman, co-bait w/ Murry Guru
Zake (w/ SH, SL & Craig)
x 5 Modeling Mugu Meeting, w/ mewing_ghecko & Otterfan & SSC
x 2 another MMM w/ SH
x 13 Later shows and trips for the benefit of M00seknuckle, incl. the 0budu Fact Finding Mission
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Titania
Hell on wheels
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 2442
Location: Rollin' rollin' rollin'
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:57 pm |
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^^^ I don't know that I'd go quite so far as Frumpy But I have enjoyed the discomfort of the lads.
That being said, I know that if a lad were truly to die or be seriously harmed (physically) while on a bait of mine, I would have a hard time dealing with it. I would have a hard time believing it, though, because - as all baiters know - lads lie. We tell them our character has died, why shouldn't they do the same?
It's confusing, and the ethics debate goes on in my head - oh, not the debate about the moral rightness of what we do here, but about how far am I personally willing to take a bait. |
_________________ i do not know you.you need to expanciate more - C0llins W3aver
those words really made me felt completely bad..and i had to dust my ass and wipe tears Micheal David
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YeaWhatever
Baiting Guru
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Posts: 4188
Location: Secret Lair
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:58 pm |
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WTF? I leave for a few hours for a company picnic, come back to find all this? I'm glad that I was gone, otherwise I would have wasted a whole afternoon reading the ignorant rants of McDick or whatever his name is and would have felt compelled to join in.
By the way, it was about 75 degrees out and totally sunny. So sunny in fact that I started to feel a little bit hot. So see? Adamu is not the only poor guy that has to put up with hash conditions. |
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Nurse Nasty
Baiting Guru
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 7251
Location: Australia, where a dingo stole my eski
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:05 pm |
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