Chatting with an Oil Contract Lad

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:41 pm

J0nathan P3ars has a plan for :

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I wish to introduce you to this highly prospective crude oil sale venture. What do I mean? I propose that we become partners in a crude oil sales project under the umbrella of the National Petroleum Agency of Sao Tome and Principe.

We've chatted twice.

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Jonathan: Hello Mr Reynolds
11:30 PM Did you get my email?

11:32 PM me: Yes I did. I need some explanations from you.

11:34 PM Jonathan: I have been typing some mails to send to you, but I will explain...
11:35 PM you need not to own a company before going into the sales venture, all you need do, is to send to me some name(company) of your choice and I will get one registered by verifying from our data base the availability of the name sent, if available, I will let you know the requirements for registeration

11:39 PM me: You said as much. But how do I know that this will work? I'm no businessman. I'm an ex-soldier. I served my country until 2004 carrying an M-16 or flying an AH-1 Cobra gunship. I have to be sure about what I'm doing.

11:44 PM Jonathan: Thanks for that. This is a Venture. Any body can go into it, my proposition remains in getting a re-assignment from an already existing Crude Oil Sales Liscence. If we secure this liscence, we will be netting the sum of 6 million usd every month, wich will be from both the buyer and the seller. It is a kind of business you need not to do much, all you need do is to sit at home and be netting sales commission every month. I contacted you because as a staff of this agency, we are not allowed to take part in any crude oil sales or it's related activities. In as much as am proposing for a joint venture with you, I will be acting invisible due to my status as a staff of the petroleum agency
you can come to our office if you wish.

11:47 PM me: It's very late where I am and I need to be on deck early tomorrow. This is very interesting, but we'll have to mull over this at a more favorable time. I'll email you when I can.

Jonathan: Thats OK
11:48 PM I will be waiting for your email

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7:01 PM Jonathan: Hello Sir,
You free to talk?
7:02 PM me: Go ahead.
Jonathan: Got your message but was confused, You mean you still need more explanation after all i wrote to xplain to you in details
7:03 PM Ahmed Syed was the owner of PENTAGON OIL SERVICE, whose liscence we are trying to get re-asigned to US
He got the liscence and was not active with the sales due to ill health
7:04 PM his liscence now is more or less a doemant liscence, thats why we need to get it re assigned
you still there
I am already on my way to Church Service
7:05 PM me: OK, that's what I was talking about. You want your license reassigned to the US - I don't live there any more. Will this cause problems?
Jonathan: no
any part of the world
infact mr Syed was not from USA, He was from Orman in the middle East
7:06 PM it wont cause a problem
7:08 PM me: I'll level with you - if you have any problems with a colleague being a former member of a US military service (and some do), tell me now.
7:09 PM Jonathan: All I want is some one that can go into this venture with me, it does not matter weather a military or civilian
7:10 PM me: That's OK then. Do you still need a new company name from me?
7:11 PM Jonathan: if you do not have an existing company, please email me a company name of your choice for registeration proper
7:12 PM me: Like I said, I have no company - but onwards - would be OK?
7:21 PM me: Please respond.
7:29 PM me: I have to go. I'm sorry.

He accepted the name and is now asking for the "registeration fee".

He seems to be a chirpy Lad. Can't allow that to continue...

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:45 am

Make that three times...

Since he's really keen on the cash:

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Please it's September already, and we need to get this going in other, to stand a chance of this month's sale commission.
Send your own $1,020 through Moneygram International oe western Union to
Name: Frank P3t3r
Address: 29 Kampa1a Street, Wuse 2, 4buja. N1geria
I will take my own $1,020 to him to enable him proceed with the registeration Imediately.
I await your mail with the transfer information of the money sent.
Have a nice day.

I thought he needed some straightening out:

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I understand that you have concerns about timeframes, but even so, this sort of slipshod methodology doesn't impress me. We're doing business, so let's do it by the numbers.
Send me an invoice for the fee, and a bank account to pay it into.

Bing! Chat's on!

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6:51 PM Jonathan: Hello, Got Your Message but do not understand what you mean by INVOICE
6:53 PM me: Say what?
6:54 PM Jonathan: Please, tell me what you mean by Invoice
me: Do you have any understanding of the term?
6:56 PM Jonathan: No, Please explain...
me: Are you still there? Something flashed up and I missed it.
6:57 PM Jonathan: I am still Here
6:59 PM me: OK then - an invoice is a document that explains what is being charged, and why, from whom, and to whom.
7:00 PM Hello?
7:01 PM Jonathan: Thats OK,
I should get the Invoice from the office today
I will get the invoice including a bank account today
But I am after the time Frame
7:05 PM me: I'm surprised you had to ask what an invoice was! But then maybe English isn't your main language; I know very little about Nigeria.
7:09 PM Jonathan: I am not Nigerian, I am from Sao Tome,
7:10 PM In this case, I think it's strange to ask for invoice, I went to the offices and gotten the requirements verbaly
7:11 PM But I will go back to ask them to Make an Official Invoice for it and provide an account
7:12 PM me: I assumed you were Nigerian because the other guy was - my bad. Where's Sao Tome?
Jonathan: You have to know that Sao Tome and Principe is a very small Island in the Gulf of Guinea, We just had Independent and Most of the Governmental Parastatals are being scattered in HER variouse Liasions all over the globe
7:13 PM I am dealing with you from Sao Tome Liasion office in Abuja the capital City of Nigeria...This is where we have our Temporal office
7:15 PM me: If you think it's strange to ask for invoices, then I'm flummoxed. I thought all businesses gave them over as a matter of course. In Iraq the contractors were always submitting paperwork for base functions.
7:17 PM Jonathan: Not that Invoice is Strange to me..... I will get them at the appriopriate offices today, Is that OK with You?
7:19 PM me: Huh? You had no idea what one was. Is English your second language?
7:20 PM Jonathan: Yes, My First Language is Portugues
Sao Tome is A Colony of Portugal
7:24 PM are you still there?
7:25 PM me: Sorry - I had to feed the dog.
Jonathan: ok
7:26 PM me: Where were we?
7:27 PM Jonathan: I told you that English is not my first Language
My First is Portugues
Sao Tome is a colony of Portugal
me: Before that!
7:29 PM Jonathan: I also told you that I will get the Invoice from the appriopriate Office and a bank account
7:30 PM I also told you that Sao Tome is a small Island in the gulf of Guinea with one of the best qualities of Crude Oil in the World
me: Well, that's good to hear.
Jonathan: The second best Crude Oil Producers in Africa
AND ABOUT THE 7TH IN THE WORLD
7:31 PM We operate from Liasion office attached to Abuja
7:37 PM me: I guess you'd better get to it. I'd better be going as I haven't had dinner and Snowdrop wants to go for a walk
Jonathan: I am almost gone
7:38 PM so I will email you when I get them
Bye
me: Ciao!

More to come...

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:27 pm

I've been dealing with this guy too. But only by email; I haven't responded to his chat invitations.

Good job on the invoice thing. I think I'll hit him up for one as well.

Trophy Videos · Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:35 pm

I'm watching this one. Malcolm is such a no-nonsense type of guy, and never holds punches! Very Happy

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:11 pm

This is what he's sent me so far, document-wise.

Do you think the invoice would be enough evidence for Alan to get that account closed?

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:40 am

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Do you think the invoice would be enough evidence for Alan to get that account closed?

Give it a try.

I've been keeping him on ice by waffling on what my business name is going to be. Then, I'm going to make him send me a formal, written agreement between our companies.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:15 pm

The invoice has been sent to Alan. Meanwhile, latest chat...

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11:56 PM Jonathan: Are you there?
11:57 PM Dont you want to chat?
me: Not really - I was just checking things out before I hit the sack. Any problems?
11:58 PM Jonathan: I sent you the invoice with the account for payment...
11:59 PM me: Yes, I got that. I was waiting for you to tell me when you'd paid your half.
12:00 AM Jonathan: Mine wont be problem because I will be paying tomorow
I thought you will pay yours today
12:02 AM me: You said you'd pay your half and send me a scan of the payment slip and then I'd return the favor.
12:04 AM Jonathan: But, since you have yours ready, why not go ahead and make your own payment
12:05 AM me: Well, it's not possible now. My bank closes over the weekend except for ATMs.
12:08 AM If there's nothing else, I'd like to get some sleep as I've had a long and tiring day. OK with that?
12:09 AM Jonathan: Please tell me when you will make yor own part of the payment
me: As far as I'm concerned the deal is that I send my share when I get word your half is paid.
12:11 AM Jonathan: Thats, OK. Have a good sleep my Friend
me: Bye then

Just wait until I point out what's wrong with his invoice...

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:35 pm

I made a fuss about the invoice, then sent the Lad a note saying I'd paid over. Lad wants the payment slip. A question gets this reply:

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If you do not find a way of getting me a copy of the slip, at least state details on the pay slip let me see if its acceptable. If not, I dont think you made any payment.

Mal is course furious:

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So you're willing to believe that I'm a liar? Maybe I don't want you as a business partner if that's your attitude.

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If you want to continue with this I expect (a) respect, (b) a gorram apology. To casually assert that I might be a liar (why the Sam Frick I would do that is a mystery) is a low blow indeed.

Lad calls for chat:

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11:03 PM me: Then talk to me and let's get this settled right now!
11:04 PM Jonathan: Please do not be offended, but All I am requesting from you is just a copy of the pay slip...like you asked me to
and I did send my own to you
11:05 PM again, the office of the CAC will never consider any payment unless they see all pay slips as evidence of payments
me: There's the little matter of you having a scanner and my not having one. Not everyone is equal.
11:06 PM Jonathan: Then, how do we resolve this... Will you go else where for scanner or can you write down all the details in the slip you have and lets see if that will work with the CAC
11:07 PM If they're willing to accept your notes on a piece of paper, then maybe I don't want to be part of something so lax.
11:08 PM Jonathan: It is profesional and official for all the payment to be shown as a clear evidence
11:09 PM mind you they officialy issued you an invoice for this
and this is how it is done
me: And they'd take your word alone? Funny sort of office!
11:10 PM The invoice doesn't matter here. We're talking about my documentation, not yours.
Jonathan: no words...I am talking about eveidence of payments
11:11 PM me: For the love of Pete, I'm not getting through... are you telling me that if I give you the details on the payment slip, then you can somehow write it all down and present it as proof?
11:13 PM Jonathan: Sure, I will attach my own pay slip and the details of the payment in the slip you give me, then foward it all to the office and try to give them little explanation, so that if they have to contact the account officer of the bank, they will crosscheck with the detailed info and see if all is correct before issueing a receipt
11:14 PM Details suc as, your bank acc info where the money is sent out from, the branch, time and date and exact amonut transfered
me: Recipe for disaster. I'll see about finding a scanner. If any civilian contractor in Iraq had done what you suggested, I'd hand him over to the provost marshalls in an instant.
11:16 PM Jonathan: are you sending me the payslip info?
11:17 PM me: No, I am going to find a scanner and sent you the genuine article! Holy snapping duckshit, are you reading my messages?
Jonathan: OK, I will be waiting for it sir as soon as possible. Thanks
11:18 PM me: Good, then there'll be no further arguments. I'll contact you tomorrow with the information. That is all
Sent at 11:19 PM on Tuesday
11:20 PM Jonathan: hanks and sory for the little misunderstanding. Thanks as I look foward to a lasting partner with you.
11:21 PM me: I said that is all! No further communication before tomorrow.

Next stop; a suitable DLL file...

Trophy Videos · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:49 pm

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Holy snapping duckshit, are you reading my messages?

Malcolm is such an irascible character! Laughing

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:59 pm

The chats are over for now, but the bait continues...

Lad
Malcolm

He received this:

Here it is. I suggest you get on with it.

He also got a renamed dll.

Back came this reply - twice:

There is notting in the attached file, Please verify and resend in a readable file. Thanks

The pictures's clear enough to me. What OS are you using?

I do not understand what you mean by OS. But please, mind you that we are not making any headway by all these. Try to see another to re-attach the file again so that I can be able to read it and print it out.

I'll have to bill you for business training! When I say OS, I mean Operating System - as in, what software are you running right now? We may have a systems clash.
As far as I'm concerned the scan is good - either way, attaching the form again won't make a lick of difference.

I am using Microsoft Windows XP. The file is not readable, Please try and see if you can re-scan. There is no nee for us to be arguing, while time is running. You read my own slip and I need to read yours. Please do something.

Never let it be said that I'm not generous with my advice:

Well upgrade to Vista then! For the love of Pete, I'm damned if I'm going to jump through hoops because you're too cheap to stay up to date.

Please, you need to re attach the file with either of the following
programs, JPEG OR ACCROBAT READER. Thanks

So he'll get another dll... and what betting I'll get another whinge?

Trophy Videos · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:04 pm

I wanna see crying, and real tears... Laughing

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:15 am

It's been running hot tonight...

Friday...

I had the gorram form scanned and resaved. You've received it three times now. I don't want any more excuses - I want action and results!

Sir,
I am sory I tried all my best to read the attachment you sent, but
notting is inside it. I even upgraded my computer to VISTA still not
readable. The error report was that there is notting inside the file.
I suggest, you take the slip, to someone else and tell him/her to help
you attach it in a simple format so that it can be readable. We can
not go further until this is resolved.
Have a nice day.

You have got to be fricking kidding me!

can you fax the payment slip?

I don't have a fax.
Maybe it's time for Plan B! What details do you need from the payment slip? Give me a complete listing.

Today...

YOU MUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO SEND THE SLIP BY FAX OR TRY ATTACHING IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT CAN BE READABLE. THE WRITTEN DETAILS MAKES NO SENCE WITH THE CAC. I ADVICE YOU LOOK FOR HELP FROM OTHER PEOPLE, BY EITHER BORROWING THEIR FAX TO SEND IT OR LET THEM HELP YOU ATTACH IT WITH A READABLE FORMAT.

What the Sam Frick has changed? You originally said it would be all right if you had the details on the payment slip!
Explain yourself.

I NEED PHISICAL EVIDENCE OF PAYMENT. YOU MUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO SEND THE SLIP BY FAX OR TRY ATTACHING IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT CAN BE READABLE. THE WRITTEN DETAILS MAKES NO SENCE WITH THE CAC. I ADVICE YOU LOOK FOR HELP FROM OTHER PEOPLE, BY EITHER BORROWING THEIR FAX TO SEND IT OR LET THEM HELP YOU ATTACH IT WITH A READABLE FORMAT.

The question's become academic anyway. I got a message from the bank to pay them a visit - it seems the transfer didn't work; that there are problems with your account. Check your account and make sure it's good.

The Account is good. Notting is wrong with the account. Mind you that
it is in the same account I sent my own shear of the fees. If yours is
not working, Try sending through western Union or moneygram, that way,
we will not have problems with scanning and attachment. I hope you can
recall your money, cause since the evidence of payment is not sent, it
is as good as notting was paid in your end.

I won't be able to do anything about the payment before tomorrow. Double-check with your bank anyway.
I have the details you gave for a WU payment, so I can do that if I haven't heard by tomorrow.

That will be better, please remeber to get back to me with these info
as soon as the WU is made..
MTCN
Your Full Name and Address
Text Question and Answer
Exact amount sent and
the rconfirmation of the receivers Name and Address
Please do, we have wasted enough time, and need not to waste further.

Tried to initiate chat...

Talk to me. I have a question.

CANT CONNECT CHAT...HAVING A SLOW LINK

WELL KEEP TRYING! I HAVE A GORRAM QUESTION! HOLY SNAPPING DUCKSHIT, DOESN'T YOUR OFFICE HAVE BROADBAND YET?

OK, I'll ask it here; why does your guy need a Q&A protocol? He has a valid ID, right?

The reason is because, any money comming into this country through
western union requires question and answer, ofcourse he has an ID. If
you go to Western Union yourself, they will want you to add q&a. It is
a must

The hell it is. The Q&A is only for those without proper ID. That's what it says on the gorram form!

With Moneygram, one needs no Q&A, but with Western Union, you have to
put it. They wont even allow the transaction from your end if you
refuse to put it. Its just for security check. Ask them, they will explain and stop shouting please. It is a simple thing, dont pick offence with me, when you get there, ask them, I am not western Union, they will explain better and please stop shouting at me I did not make the law.

Stop lying to me! The Q&A is for people without ID. There is no law that says I have to include a Q&A. I know this, so don't try to bullshit me. Why are you doing that?

Go ahead

I will - after 9 am tomorrow. That's in 12-1/2 hours at least.

I await the info

Let's see if he'll snap at this...

You'll get name, amount, and sender, as required.

Dont forget the MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) very important

You don't need the MTCN to collect the money. It says so on the WU website.
You're not making much sense.

Go to western union outlet and stop making a fool of yourself. They
willexplain to you on how to send money. No money transfer without
MTCN. You better stop playing games with me or I look for more
seriouse person.

This is from the Western Union website:
Customers receiving money only need a valid form of identification or, in some cases, the answer to a test question provided by the sender.
You may pick up your money transfer at any Agent location. You will need to complete a "To Receive Money" form with the following information: name, address, amount expected, as well as the sender's name, telephone number, city and state being sent from. Valid identification is also required
NOTHING about MTCNs, and NOTHING about compulsory Q&As.
Have you ever received WU from overseas? I don't care how it's done in Sao Tome or Nigeria..

YOU MUST HAVE TO CARE HOW ITS DONE HERE BECAUSE YOU NEED THE MONEY TO BE HERE. AND BESIDES. GO TO WESTERN UNION LOCATION, BEFORE YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH ME FURTHER. IF YOU KEEP TELLING ME WHAT YOU SEE ON WU WEBSITE, I WONT BOTHER RESPONDING TO YOU AGAIN. GO TO WU LOCATION AGENT AND THEY WILL PUT YOU THROUGH.

Are you telling me that the Western Union website isn't to be trusted? How the Sam Frick does that work?

Go to a location nearest to you, either post office or so, they will
put you through on how to send money through western union. Obey for
once and stop arguing all the time.

Fine. It's in the main shopping mall. I'll go there, follow the protocols, and send you the three things I mentioned, and then you'll have to admit that I (and the website) are right. I don't know why you feel the need to defy reality, but hey, if you want to look stupid, it's your privilege.
That is all.

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