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aggg
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

One to investigate, please.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Had a quick look - couldn't find anything obvious, but it doesn't look particularly legit either.

Website on both http://www.ebran... and http://ebran....

Sidebar links don't work in FF but do in IE

Payment by WU, MG or bank transfer - which doesn't help legitimacy Rolling Eyes

They have a blog advert here http://www.list4all.com/ebrandtrading/ and several other scattered around the 'net. Again, no phones or faxes.

Chinese registrant
Registered in 2007 for 2 years
No physical address given
Claims to be a Ltd Company (but doesn't say where registered)
No registered company number (can't check UK as Companies House website has Sundays off, but I can guess the result of a search)
Most contact details are throw-away email addresses, apart from [email protected] which seems to validate OK, (although a service scan of the domain shows POP3 and IMAP connections refused). Email appears to be on 222.76.218.81, which is
Quote:
inetnum: 222.76.208.0 - 222.76.223.255
netname: XIAMEN-TELECOM-IDC-XIAMEN-FJ
country: CN
descr: Xiamen Telecom IDC
descr: Xiamen Fujia Province

No other fake websites in the db for registrant's email [email protected]
No evidence of fraud or fakery; could easily be a scam, but I'd guess it makes and sells counterfeits.

Quote:
Domain Name: EBRANDTRADING.COM
Registrar: BIZCN.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.bizcn.com
Referral URL: http://www.bizcn.com
Name Server: NS1.4EVERDNS.COM
Name Server: NS2.4EVERDNS.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 11-mar-2008
Creation Date: 14-mar-2007
Expiration Date: 14-mar-2009


Quote:
Registrant Contact:
shawhua541
jinlong fan [email protected]
54654654 fax: 64565465
Xiamen
Xiamen Fj 361000
CN

Administrative Contact:
jinlong fan [email protected]
64654654 fax: 64565465
Xiamen
Xiamen Fj 361000
cn

Technical Contact:
jinlong fan [email protected]
54654654 fax: 6464
sh
sh sh 350000
cn


So my conclusions: can't prove fraud; probably sells counterfeit goods, but that's a Trading Standards issue, IMHO. I'd welcome other views.

Do we have any other evidence of fakery?

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Artemis
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I can't see anywhere on the site that says it is in the UK but several hints that it is in China

(This is a good site to use on a Sunday http://www.checksure.biz )

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aggg
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm baiting at the moment - so far, the only evidence is that they want payment by WU.

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Artemis
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

WU would not be evidence.

You need to determine if they take money and ship nothing or if they ship counterfeit goods

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Would we be involved if it just ships counterfeits?

This may be copyright infringement, but I'm not so sure that it's actually illegal in some parts of the world. (Lawyers, pelt me with accurate information wrapped around rocks at this point)

If it's just copyright, then isn't that up to the likes of Nike to deal with?

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Artemis
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

NO7, I think you are right.

I personally don't think these sites fit into what we do here. If you start looking you will find 1000's of these.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks, aggg, Old No. 7 and Artemis. Moving this to misc scams, with a PM to someone to see if it should be moved/reposted in the phone lads forum.

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