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thomas-the-tank
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Two recently to my catcher account which I decided to test out:

1. Investment orphan scam:
Scammer wrote:
I am MISS Rose Komu. and I inherited this sum from my late father who died in recent crisis in Cote d'Ivoire. I wish to request for your assistance in investing... yada yada

Now permit me to ask these few questions:
1. Can you honestly help me from your heart?
2. Can I completely trust you?
3. What percentage of the total amount in question will be good for you after the money is in your account?

My reply just to see if she's listening:
I wrote:
> 1. Can you honestly help me from your heart?
YES, BUT NOT FROM MY HEART
> 2. Can I completely trust you?
NO
> 3. What percentage of the total amount in question will be good for you after
> the money is in your account?
90%

She comes back to me with a personally addressed message:
Scammer wrote:
My Good Friend, Thanks once again for your response in regards to this co-operation... yada yada
Now only what I need from you is to be good and honest partner who will assist me to receive this consignment over there for establishment while I continue my education.
To enable us proceed in this transaction without further delay, you need to reconfirm to me the following information:
1. If you will remain sincer to me throughout and after this transaction?
2. If the percentage which I offered you is acceptable by you so as to avoid any aguement when the fund arrived to your account,
3. Your full name/ address
4.Your private telephone number.
5.If you will mantain the confidentiality of this transaction?
For your assistance in these areas I am assuring you that I will offer you 15% from the total fund after the transfer while 5% will be for any expenses that might incure during the transaction. Then rest will be for the investment programme.

And my reply again:
I wrote:
> 1. If you will remain sincer to me throughout and after this transaction?
No
> 2. If the percentage which I offered you is acceptable by you so as to avoid any aguement when the fund arrived to your account,
90% as agreed
> 3. Your full name/ address
As below
> 4.Your private telephone number.
As below
> 5.If you will mantain the confidentiality of this transaction?
No

I look forward to working with you and seeing your picture. [she said she'd sent it earlier but didn't].

So she comes back to me:
Scammer wrote:
Received your mail together with your nice details and the contents was well understood, Also I will like you to know that we have to proceed without wasting any more time since you are with me I will like you to hang all what ever you are doing for now and let us face this transaction with all our mind so that within few days you will call me for good news that you have received this money

Now I must contact the bank, etc. They really don't read what we say, do they?

Here's another...

2. Sick widow
Scammer wrote:
I don't want a situation where this money will be used in an UNGODLY manner, hence the reason for taking this bold decision. [though the late husband was Tunisian and named Idris, he was Christian, as his is sick and grieving widow]

I replied (taking a leaf from the book of various other baiters here) - and this was the whole of my message:
I wrote:
I would like to use your money to fund a mail-order bestiality service for underprivileged perverts. Please respond.

She replies (with my baiter name in a different font, so a little work has gone into this: 
Scammer wrote:
May the blessing of God be with you, Richard  this is to show you that the holyspirit of God sees every secret of a men and knows when to render help to people, l have being praying to God to help me show me the right person who can be able to handle this money for his work, then in my dream the holyspirit directed me to you that you have a God fearing heart to help the needy.
 
yada yada

Because I made a vow to God about this money so please make sure you keep to your promise God knows about this money and also l want you to pray about this very well for God to give you the wisdom to use this money. After this mail i am sending a security company a mail now introduceing you to them, as i wait for the information needed.
May you be bless and the spirit of God lead you and your project in Jesus name
Amen.
 
Your Sister in Christ

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:29 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That's funny. Laughing

Most don't read it, and some read only as far as the first line, but no more than five lines at the most.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That is funny. Lads will be lads

I usually don't read my lad-mail, only skip through it if I even bother to do that Embarassed

Turns out it never matters what they wrote Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I know they dont bother to read replies. I got an esophagael cancer person with lots of money saying he wants me to use his fortune to serve God, etc because he had done so many wrong things in his life. He wished to repent so he could go to heaven, bla bla

Quote:
I have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer .
It has defiled all forms of medical treatment, and right
now I have only about a few months to live, according to
medical experts.
I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I
never really cared for anyone(not even myself)but my
business. Though I am very rich, I was never
generous, I was always hostile to people and only
focused on my business as that was the only thing I
cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know
that there is more to life than just wanting to have
or make all the money in the world.
I believe when God gives me a second chance to come
to this world I would live my life a different way
from how I have lived it.


Here is an excerpt of my reply:

Quote:
It is no wonder you have been stricken with esophageal cancer. Those who live their lives in such a way will often receive what they deserve. Just because you learn Christ's way in the end, it doesn't mean you have been spared eternal damnation

I am more than happy to have 40% of your fortune.


Of course, next email I got from him was the form letter that follows every reply he receives.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'd once responded to a email with: 'I am a plank of wood. It is difficult for me to write without fingers.'

I baited that lad for a few months. He just thought my name was Plank Wood. I rolled with it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ Hi Nasty!

There are some members here who will say otherwise about lads not reading their replies. (Ya hear that Otter? Where'd you go?) In fact some valid points have been made and I truly respect those who offer the "opposing" viewpoint. I don't necessarily agree, but that doesn't invalidate the points that are made.

But I'm mostly with you on this one Thomas. Oh sure they pay attention later on in the game, like when they just can't seem to get that MTCN, but the first few e-mails are just scripted most of the time.

I have one on the line right now that I did nearly the same thing to, and I've had to remind him twice that he has to answer my questions, which are exactly his questions, before we'll go anywhere with his risky-free proposition. I don't know if I'd say this (or anything for that matter) applies to all or even most lads, but one thing is for sure: It can be fun. I always find it amazing what degradation a mugu will put themselves through just for a measly few hundred dollars!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I wonder if it is that they are just lazy to read the emails? Or are they just so focused on script that they reply with just their next bit of the script.

I am going to have to try that out now...and answer all kinds of crazy things.

Then again, I read a blog while ago (sorry for being off topic) that talked about a person who experimented with signing receipts with funny names, and writing random stuff instead of signing. He had some hilarious emails/dialogues with the bank regarding they don't read the receipts or process them. I think he even did it to the memo sections of checks as well...

I think society is just lazy. And if you read this entire post...pat yourself on the back.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

They are lazy. They automatically think that if they get a reply, the person is interested.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^
And the fun comes when you later ask them to read the small print they agreed to at the beginning of the whole business.

I'm not sure whether to pick up the ball and run with these two or not. Both have potential, I think, but I am in the middle of two quite satisfying baits right now, and have a couple more on the boil. If anyone wants to play with the two I've quoted, PM me, and I'll pass their names to you.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^Indeed. I have one Lad who unknowingly committed himself (in the Lord's name), to paying every fee, charge, dumerage, tax and whatever needed for the release of my trunk boxes. He's doing a pretty good job, has "taken out some bank loanes" to pay various charges.

I have to do nothing at all as the bait rolls on, so I've christened him The Incredible Self-Baiting Pastor Joe...

The other way to get them to pay attention is to write in all caps. That seems to strike a chord with them.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

MOST don't read some do.
I had a vlad a couple of months get really angry when I asked her what food she likes. As she/he pointed out that topic was covered several weeks before. It all looked like script to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sometimes they read insults. Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I agree that most of the time they don't read a word and you just get part 2, 3 and 4 of the script before getting handed off to the "Barrister" but sometimes they do. I recently replied to a "rich dying widow" that I would love her money to turn my life around as I was a porn star who had found God but needed to keep doing the porn for money. For the last two weeks she's been quoting bible verses at me, way off script, assuring my that I will be redeemed, as I recount my charachter's adventures on set in painful detail. I keep thinking I should remind her about the money Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Nurse Nasty wrote:
I'd once responded to a email with: 'I am a plank of wood. It is difficult for me to write without fingers.'


Laughing Laughing Judging by the way they type so do they.

I recently sent out an ASEM with a contact phone number in it and I got back either their opening or second "give us your details" script. <sigh> I just resend the original ASEM which seems to kick start them out of their script addiction. At the moment their lack of attention to what I email them has really started to get on my nerves. My replies tend to range from "GO BACK AND READ MY PREVIOUS EMAIL" to large scale abuse at their inability to exercise this business properly. I also like to compare their private parts to those of an undersized titmouse.

i think I'm suffering a bit of baiting burn out right now and any lad that tries to flex his muscles just gets it. End of bait. So what. On to the next one or the same one with a new character.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hmm, well I will have to reply with some hilarious replies that I can use later similar to Wright B Hindyou's post. Once you did that, showed them that they agreed to a variety of fees, did they drop you, or did they keep going?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Tommo Shanter wrote:
I also like to compare their private parts to those of an undersized titmouse.


Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Obi-Wan Knievel wrote:
There are some members here who will say otherwise about lads not reading their replies. (Ya hear that Otter? Where'd you go?)


Here!

I have nothing more to say about it. I've given up trying to show that the myth ("They never read your replies") is just a myth. Throw in a large dose of confirmation bias (= you only notice the examples that confirm your pre-formed assumptions) and it's an impossible struggle. I'd probably have more luck trying to deconvert all the followers of a major religion (pick one, any one) than convincing people that this baiting mantra is not reliable.

All anyone can really say about this is: X% will read your reply, 100-X% won't.

Any more than that, even with vague words like "most" or "a few" or whatever, is guessing. Pure, absolute, nothing-but, total guesswork.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

They only start to really read when you have problems with Western Union Bank payment.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ That's very true. I had a lad reply to me that the picture of me that I sent him was very beautiful. That would have been believable if I had actually sent a picture. My actual response to him was that I didn't have a picture to send.

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