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Sir Blimly Windy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

This one seems to work quite well ...............

From: "mrs constance mathieu"
Date: 30 June 2007 12:06:05
Subject: Dearest in the Lord.

Dearest in the Lord.

PLEASE ENDEAVOUR TO USE IT FOR THE CHILDREN OF GOD.

I am Mrs Constance Mathieu. I am married to Dr.Johnson Mathieu who worked
with Bahrain embassy in Cote d'ivoire for nine years before he died in
the year 2000.We were married for eleven years without a child. He died
after a brief illness that lasted for only four days. Before his death we
were both born again Christians. Since his death I decided not to
re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is
against.

When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of (USD 8. 3 Million
dollars) with one bank in Cote d'ivoire. Presently, this money is still
with the Bank. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the
next three months due to cancer problem.

Blah Blah Blah ………..

Yours in Christ.

Mrs Constance Mathieu.






Dear Mrs Mathieu,

My name is Professor Lou Smorrels and I am a consultant and professor of pharmaceutical research here at the St Alma Chisit's hospital and research laboratories in London England.
Thank you very much for you interesting email; it was kind of you to contact me with your proposition but unfortunately I am not in a position to help you at this point in time.

However we are looking for patients with your particular illness to participate in trials of a new treatment we are developing and you fit our criteria.
To date we have had a 74.5% success rate with Alkadexabenzathera-podazalamide.
Our treatment has been engineered and developed by our biotechnology company GeneDyne to combat your condition.
It is a blood substitute and consists of human haemoglobin manufactured by altered E. coli, purified using GeneDyne's proprietary GEF purification and artificially encapsulated.
Due to flaws in the GEF process there is unfortunately a possible side effect and that is it could cause haemoglobin poisoning and insanity within months but this is a 1 in 1000 possibility.
If you wish to know any more or you are prepared to undergo treatment with a good chance of a cure for your terminal illness then please signal your agreement by replying to the hospital email address alma_chisit@***.com and subject to certain conditions, we will fly you over to the UK and obviously take care of any accommodation, visas etc by sending you your travel expenses by whatever way best suits your means.

My kind regards,
Professor Lou Smorrels MBAcA, Bsc, MCh, MChir, BPharm


Naturaly they have to fill out a very long and detailed set of forms giving spurious details about their medical history, passwords etc……..

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

have u had any lads filling forms thru that email?

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Sir Blimly Windy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Nope, not as yet but many enquiries, seems they cant print the form or wont .......
Heres the form if you want it:-
http://www.savefile.com/files/1700277

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i ask people about Inmate Rehabilitation & Reform group which is an organization but they told me that they don't know and my taxi became upset and collect more than what i expected and drooped me unknown area shouting to people that i am a thief that i took him where i don't know and he is afraid .then i explain to people and they let me go my way after spoiling my image.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sir Blimly Windy,

With all due respect to your station in life and creativity, no self respecting scammer would read all of that and shift their game to yours on the first email exchange.

Think of a chess game. The pieces are all set up, sides are identified and you come in, knock the table over and start playing Horse Shoes... Shocked

If you want them to get off script (as you say you want), you will first have to play their way for a bit and drift them off script.

You don't look like a willing victim at this point. Just to check out what I am saying, respond with a simple: "I am interested" or "I don't know what I could do to help you." You can even use the same email account and see what results from that approach. Then start moving things the way you want.

Your creativity will come into play when the time is right, just slow down a bit and act like a victim.

Welcome and keep trying... just a bit... slower. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^ What he said.

Low and slow for a while to establish your credibility as a victim.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^^ I concur with both of the above posters. A great way to get lads off of script is to ask them questions (while seeming sincerely interested in their "transaction"). A great stalling tactic is to ask these questions one at time. Also, I try only to respond once or twice a day to the lad I'm baiting (i.e., don't hurry up and answer their e-mails immediately).

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Sir Blimly Windy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am appealing to their greed which is their reason for being. I have had several successful baits over the years this is just another way of annoying the hell out of them. Another string to the bow so to speak.
I agree slowly does it most of the time but don’t write this off out of hand, if you get 1 in 20 to reply it means you have at least got a foothold. Play them for a while, build their confidence in you then play around with them. Ok, so most won’t bite but we are all here for the same reason to take up their time and recourses.
I guess most of you are familiar with the map making modality http://www.419eater.com/html/abu_moses.htm
Off topic straight away and a successful and humours bait, so mine needs work…… I’m working on it.

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i ask people about Inmate Rehabilitation & Reform group which is an organization but they told me that they don't know and my taxi became upset and collect more than what i expected and drooped me unknown area shouting to people that i am a thief that i took him where i don't know and he is afraid .then i explain to people and they let me go my way after spoiling my image.
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Julian Day
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sir Blimly Windy wrote:
Nope, not as yet but many enquiries, seems they cant print the form or wont .......
Heres the form if you want it:-
http://www.savefile.com/files/1700277


There seems to be some prob with that link...could be that the lads can't get into it either? Seems to be some security issue blocking it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sir Blimy Windy,

maybe i missed it, besides travel, lodging and help with visa's what are you giving them?

and not to be a stick in the mud, but is 1/20 realistic reply odds? if so, my ASEM really sucks. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Depends on the day of the week MG. Wink

I have had 1/5, 1/50, 1/500


I used one modality about 2 years ago - (damned if I can find it now) that I sent out and received upwards of 40% replies. Way too much to handle, but it was an exciting time.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There is a lot of sense in the suggestion that a lad should be gently taken off script, particularly as the first few mails from the victim are seldom read carefully for detail. However, I do believe it is possible to take the lad off script in the first email - I have successfully done that on numerous occasions. My best effort is this one...
Quote:
I think you are a scumbag who is trying to trick me. I bet there is no money - you just want a visa. [...]
What a crappy story you told - well tough, you have come to the wrong place. [...]
Get a job, and get lost!

In case you are wondering where you can go from there, read and enjoy - that bait lasted three years.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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With all due respect to your station in life and creativity, no self respecting scammer would read all of that and shift their game to yours on the first email exchange.

Think of a chess game. The pieces are all set up, sides are identified and you come in, knock the table over and start playing Horse Shoes...

Awesome advise! That post & the two after it paint an accurate picture of the scambaiting world. The baiters posting in this thread are not knocking you, they are trying to help you.

Your scripts are probably great! I don't read lad scripts, I rarely even read what they write when they are off-script, as is probably the case for most baiters here. Lads wont read your script either... Unless you have 'em hooked. In order to do that you need a couple slow typical victim-like replies.

As a suggestion, why don't you write a series of scripts that leads up to your script above... Chop it up over a half dozen or more emails... Starting with something like: "I am so fortunate, how do we proceed, blabla?"... Then your forms will get filled (& you might just feel like a puppet master Wink ) + you will be able to send it as an ASEM... Get your addies from either the shuttle or lottolads massbait.

This advise is 100% risky-free Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I may be going against the trend here, but I think that if someone finds a reliable way to get a lad off script early on that's not a bad thing. Although there are the tried and true methods, why not experiment?

I think there are more modalities out there, waiting to be discovered.

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