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TopCat
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

...well at least partially.

This is probably a translation scam but Nata,

[email protected]

(a seamstress from Ukraine who looks remarkably good in a bikini)

seemed to go off script on the second e-mail

Quote:
It is a so great pleasure for me to hear from you!!! Oh! I
couldn't think before that it would be so excited!!! Thank
you for your wonderful letter! Thank you for the wonderful
photos you sent me. Wow! You look great! You look like a
real man with whom every woman would be honored to be.
Really!! Keep sending me your photos. I like you very much.
Also I notice that your dog Dougal is so funny! I like your
dog. Dougal is truly wonderful! But I don't understand why
you are so inattentive to my previous letter. Why you
ignored all the questions I asked you?


Same with the third...

Quote:
You even can not imagine how happy I am having your
wonderful letter in my hands! I was so impatiently waiting
for it!!! Thank you for your wonderful letter. Nice to hear
that you like my name and you prefer brown haired women Wink.
Thank you for telling me more about you. I would like to
tell you that our age difference doesn't matter for me at
all. I don't need a young boy who doesn't know what he wants
and who is not responsible. I need a man like you are, who
knows how to treat a woman. I hope you understand my point
of view and we will never discuss this question again



A bit annoying because I can't just copy and paste my own script!

Is this common?

Her photos are at...

http://drop.io/fn3untp



Mail header
--------------------------

Delivered-To: XXXX
Received: by 10.100.255.16 with SMTP id c16cs148172ani;
Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:09:47 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.86.79.19 with SMTP id c19mr4306080fgb.5.1215443385207;
Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:09:45 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from web01.mi6.kiev.ua (web01.mi6.kiev.ua [91.198.36.2])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e20si5326460fga.1.2008.07.07.08.09.43;
Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:09:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 91.198.36.2 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of [email protected]) client-ip=91.198.36.2;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 91.198.36.2 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of [email protected]) [email protected]
Received: from web03.mi6 ([10.0.0.4] helo=web03.mi6.kiev.ua)
by web01.mi6.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <[email protected]>)
id 1KFsLO-00012Z-Mi
for XXXX; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:09:34 +0300
Received: from [92.112.194.162] (helo=Vika)
by web03.mi6.kiev.ua with esmtpa (Exim 4.43)
id 1KFsLR-0004UG-Ul
for XXXX; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:09:43 +0300
X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.44, engine: 4.44.0.09170, virus records: 401356, updated: 7.07.2008]
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:08:56 +0300
From: [email protected]
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: XXXX
Subject: from Nata
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="----------941711D42AE00C37"

------------941711D42AE00C37
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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TC
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vaultdweller
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

holy poop on a stick! i have the same vlad, but different message. S/he actually reads the emails!

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'you most be a fool mother f*****' 'am not in a good mud now' 'i dont need can of man like you' -b3cky t|mmy

''lol ur my kid of huy will like too f*** u till u come - luvdoc

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Tasman
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

As I found TC... a vlad that reads the early stages is like a high maintenance girlfriend... you can't just say yes and nod while actually watching the football.

I tend to skim read hers, address it and then pad it out with script with a question at the end.

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Skerrett
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I met the same thing but was able to use my precsripts with a few minor alterations.

They figure that baiters use scripted letters and are weeding them out now to improve the harvest and prolong their girls perception of being genuine. But look at their letters more closely and they do all the off script stuff in a seperate paragraph - minor editting for them. I even had one comment positively that it was nice I did not use prescripts on her as many do Laughing

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Be Careful out there

Once the bait is over IMHO you should publish in an open forum or even when you have a few generic mass mails that cant identify your baiting persona -

Prevent the scammer making $$ from victims and that is a real victory, every single thank you from a victim your post alerts preventing a scammer making $$ should be considered a trophy too!!!

One such place is
http://www.romancescam.com


They have sections on Vlads and Lads

Any contact details or links I post are an open invitation to readers to jump on in and write to them
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TopCat
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yep, a translation scam.

I got a couple more cheeskcake/soft core pr0n pics with professed undying love then...

Quote:
Dear Mr. XXXX,
welcome to the translation company
"High Level Communication".

Our translations company offers the services by translation
from Russian into English and from English into Russian
positions. We deal with translation of different
documentation, work with organizations and with private
persons the same as we translate as business correspondence
as private one. We translate your correspondence with miss
Nataliya S. The reason we contact you now is to inform you
that we can't translate and send you miss Nataliya's letter
because she can't pay us for the translation cause of her
financial problems. Miss Nataliya knows that your
correspondence is important for your common future and that
is why she asked us to contact you behalf of her name. Miss
Nataliya would like to be in touch with you until you are
together in real life and she is very upset that now your
correspondence stops. Contact us if you are interested to
continue your correspondence with miss Nataliya and we will
be glad to send you our prices and conditions. We work in
the close cooperation with all our clients. Our goal is
provide professional translations with the minimal prices
and time consumption. We emphasize on quality and
reliability of our services and always consider all
customers requests. In our translations, we always retain
what author says and accurately keep author's style and
privacy.

Regards,
the staff of
"High Level Communication".


Are these types as easy to send to MG?
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Skerrett
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Top Cat

Yes they may go to Money Gram - I had one write back and tell me that no MG transfer was made when I gave them all the transfer data less the control number - and try to get paid but know Western Union has online tracking facilities and prefer payment like that.

They will not waste too much time on you once they discover the data is fake. These translation scams are based totally on volume and they move on fast

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Be Careful out there

Once the bait is over IMHO you should publish in an open forum or even when you have a few generic mass mails that cant identify your baiting persona -

Prevent the scammer making $$ from victims and that is a real victory, every single thank you from a victim your post alerts preventing a scammer making $$ should be considered a trophy too!!!

One such place is
http://www.romancescam.com


They have sections on Vlads and Lads

Any contact details or links I post are an open invitation to readers to jump on in and write to them
Mortar x2
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Dougie
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:31 am Reply with quoteBack to top

vaultdweller wrote:
holy poop on a stick! i have the same vlad, but different message. S/he actually reads the emails!


Yeas mate yeaas!! These guys can actually string sentances together!
I'm working on one now and I think I am out of my depth!! Shocked
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Ari
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Where are you in your bait right now?
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TopCat
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Special_K...

I'm just to the stage where the "translation agency" has contacted me as per above.

I'm going into major time-wasting mode with these clowns.
I'll ask what their charges are and request bank details for the transfer. Futile, I know, but one must try Wink

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Ari
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:14 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry, I was asking Dougie. But yeah, keep wasting their time with "dumb but trying to be helpful" questions, TC. Smile
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chugger
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

i've got the same vlad. How many times did she email you before getting to the point where the "translation company" gets in touch?

I doubt i'll get that far to be honest, she just asked me if i have a wild sexual side and i responded with what can only be described as a VERY x-rated message. I'm thinking either "she" will drop me, or the translation company role will start (its only her 3rd email to me so far)- i somewhat doubt she'll know how to reply to my message!

PS In case you are interested, i immediately recognised this girl from her pictures when she first sent them as i have, erm, one or two of her videos. The real name of the girl in the pictures is Sandra Shine, google her if you wish but if you are at work i'd keep the safe search feature on!

By the way, if you use moderate filtering, and go to page 2 of the image results, you should see a picture of her in her blue "summer dress" which was one of the first pictures she sent to my character and thus, i presume, probably one she sent you aswell!

Update- yes my character has been contacted by the "translation company", i didnt think the scammer would want to try replying in character!
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MarkMark64
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I just got the soft porn pics also (scared me, NSFW stuff at W!)and then same request from the "Translation services" too! Wow, aren't we lucky Laughing !!!

I never really got her to go off script though. I like the new twist in askin for money though....

I used Bablefish to write back in Russian saying that their services were no longer needed "Пожалуйста имейте ее контакт я сразу. ". Lets see what happens.
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MarkMark64
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

They got back to me and said my bablefish russian message was just gibberish and if I wanted to talk to her anymore, I would have to pay the balance since she did not know any english or know how to use a computer. She apparently knows a really good photographer though!!!

"Dear Mr. Chuck,

we would like to inform you that we can't print your last
letter to Nata cause of her account is over. Also we would
like to inform you that she uses the service of our company
for two reasons. First of all she doesn't know English at
all. Secondly she doesn't have a computer of her own and she
even doesn't know how to use it. You have sent her a letter
in Russian today. But to tell you the truth it doesn't have
any sense. You used a computer translator to have it in
Russian. But in fact it is not in Russian. It is just a
number of unrelated words and it doesn't have any meaning at
all. If you would like to continue your correspondence with
Nata it will be reasonably for you to write her in English
and to take care about the payment for our service. If you
are interested in this proposition we will let you know what
you should do. Thank you for your time.

Regards,
"High Level Communication",
manager, Svetlana."



Anyway, I said she was a liar because I found her source of photos on the internet and asked them to send me a new girl to talk to.

They did too! Seems like they found a nice crunchy granola type too!

Hello my friend
I am so happy to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very
short letter.It is all right because you are astonished to get my
letter. I know that you're probably surprised to get my message. I got your email somewhere on the website. I don't remember which one it was.
I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any secrets.
The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so and I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest friends.
I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here,it is hardly possible to explain from first time but
I want you to know my plans.I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that i am going through will suggest
me some locations. It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.
So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can choose any town of your area,agency will only help me
to get a visa and all travel documents + some suggested placed to work in. My best friend last year met the man from
the USA when she worked
there for three months, too. She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park and after
it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight. She was very tired of course but made very good money there.
It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I think it is the right way for me ,I am lost here,and I think that I
look pretty enough to find a better place .I want to repeat the same way,it is only my chance to meet a nice man.I want to work in USA or in Europe or any
nice country. I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to share my life with good man because I'm also full of love
and tenderness,I know that I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my Prince and
I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life! This is why I am going to go through the same way.
Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything exactly right now) and I would like to be sure that I
have the man who waits for me there. I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all free time together to get
to know each other better.if you have any interest to meet me I will be more than happy to meet you too.
I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my pictures and want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!
Now I write you from my personal mailbox, please write me back here and here only. I will be checking it often.
Kiss you ,Mariya (this is my name)!


(Typical, huh?)




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